- Oct 1, 2012
Phoenix has to prove they aren't terrible.Boogie is a unique case of an All Star coming off a serious injury and no team willing to commit a max deal to him. He's now backing himself by taking the MLE and will hopefully get the max from another team next summer when he's proved his fitness.
David Stern should never have vetoed that deal, he went too far.
KD and Boogie are unrestricted free agents, can't have the league dictating where players go.
The western conference is now an absolute bloodbath with the King's being the only 'bad' team. The path is clear now in the East for the Celtics and the 76ers to battle it out.
Hopefully Giannis will take a big step forward now with some proper coaching.
has it? The Lakers were a super team in the 80s with three legit stars but they did it all through the draft, the Celtics, too. Ditto the Pistons and the Bulls. The Rockets had won one title with Hakeem before Drexler came but he was at the end of his career and was born in Houston.Many complain about the Warriors but the NBA has always been this way.
People also conveniently forget that Steph, Klay and Dramond were drafted. Mark Jackson started it and Iggy was a key FA but Steve Kerr made them the juggernaut they are today. KD was the icing on the cake.
Today the talent pool is deep and there's enough to go around IMO. If teams don't have enough young talent on their roster, they're doing it wrong (Orlando, Sacramento etc).
The draft, but they didnt build those teams through their own pickshas it? The Lakers were a super team in the 80s with three legit stars but they did it all through the draft, the Celtics, too. Ditto the Pistons and the Bulls. The Rockets had won one title with Hakeem before Drexler came but he was at the end of his career and was born in Houston.
Exactly there was an amazing post the other day on reddit on all the players picked after MinnesotaUsually it ends up being the usual suspects in the conference finals and they tend to have the best/experienced players.
Dallas are the only team in recent years that bucked the trend and that's because they caught Miami off guard (complacent) and Dirk was awesome.
Cleveland came back from 1-3 but they had LeBron and (a healthy) Kyrie plus Draymond took the bait, got suspended and the rest is history.
It's like the Premier League, allegedly the most competitive league in the world yet only Blackburn and Leicester have broken through and disrupted the norm.
We all know whose going to finish in the top four (now top six). If you want to get to that level and compete for the title you have plan, draft and hire well and along the take advantage of stupid, gung-ho GM's.
What I'm trying to say is that a dynasty is good for business and the way the Warriors have done it should be commended. Teams are so scared of them that they lose their minds when they sign an injured All Star returning from a ruptured Achilles. A player that we won't see until after the All Star game in February. A player that no one else made an offer to.
All of a sudden LeBron going to the Lakers is an afterthought, although they're bringing that upon themselves with some weird/stupid signings.
I love this league and I'm excited for what's to come. I'm even watching Summer League highlights, that's crazy.
Also worth noting they picked two point guards in 2009 before Curry2008 3rd pick - Kevin Love (technically OJ) 4th pick - Rus Westbrook
2009 6th pick - Jonny Flynn 7th pick - Steph Curry
18th pick - MIN - Ty Lawson (traded immediately for a future 1st) 19th pick - ATL - Jeff Teague (just funny that we paid big time for a guy we could have had - I know it’s nearly a decade later, but still)
28th pick - MIN - Wayne Ellington who we’d all love to come back to us for the MLE this year
45th pick - MIN - Nick Calathes 46th pick - CLE - Danny Green
2010 4th pick - MIN - Wes Johnson 5th pick - SAC - Boogie Cousins
2011 2nd pick - MIN - Derrick Williams 3rd pick - UTA - Enes Canter
2012 No 1st rounder - Sam Cassell + 1st for Marko Jaric + Lionel Chambers. The 1st rounder was pick 10 and turned into Austin Rivers.
2013 14th pick - MIN - Shabazz Muhammad (technically traded, but still) 15th pick - MIL - Giannis
26th pick - MIN traded this + Malcolm Brown to GS for future 2nd rounder 27th pick - DEN - Rudy Gobert
2014 40th pick - MIN - Glenn Robinson III 41st pick - DEN - Nikola Jokic
44th pick - MIN - Markel Brown 45th pick - CHA - Dwight Powell (4th in TS% this year of guys who played 20+ mins per game)
To be fair, the Celtics have a long history of taking advantage of people in trades....The way Danny Ainge took advantage of Brooklyn should be a lesson to all.
Yeah I definitely see your point, but I'm pessimisticly worried that the Spurs aura of grinding out wins and a playoff spot no matter what is about to disappear. Pop's got a hell of a job on his hands now that Ginobili at 41 is the only remainer of the old guard - and that's if he even re-signs.Any other team would be in limbo and probably tank but their the Spurs and regularly win fifty games every season. Last season they almost won fifty despite Kwahi only playing nine games.
I think they'll be OK for now and still be competitive but they have to eventually trade Kwahi otherwise the lack of talent on their roster will catch up with them and many in the West will bypass them if he leaves for free.
Kawhi & Green got traded for Derozan & PoetlQuestion for the boffins who know a lot more about the inner workings of the NBA than a casual follower like myself.
I follow Spurs, partly because they're called Spurs obviously and partly because Tim Duncan became my hero on NBA 2003 which is when I started taking a real interest. So, what the hell are they playing at this summer? The Kahwi situation seems pretty awful, but I'm generally concerned about the lack of incomings while seeing TP and a player I liked a lot in Anderson leaving the building. I like Murray at PG but don't see him, Aldridge and Gasol as a good enough spine to maintain the play-off spot with the West looking as crazy strong as it is.
Are Spurs downtrading this summer and already writing the season off for better picks in coming seasons? I can't see Pop agreeing to it but I'm seriously concerned about them right now.