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Mauricio Pochettino

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Oli
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He gets to manage as the host nation in 2026 so it’s quite a pivotal job for US soccer but I still think he should have waited for the next big Prem or Italian job
 

C0YS

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Mirror jumping on the bandwagon now.

He really has made some terrible career choices. That's a comment about going into international management, not specifically the US job. A manager his age with his ability should be at a top club in Europe & prepping for title challenge/European trophy. Yea he has money after psg and Chelsea and I assume US will pay well but given how well he did with us who would of thought the rest of his career would go like this

You would think his career has been a disaster by the way you are making it sound. What exactly did you think the rest of his career would go?

Yes he went to two money clubs but two top jobs but didn't do particularly badly in either, and now he is going to do an international gig. I mean he could have waited to see if England were ready or Argentina.

I think he has done alright. Like he managed an elite team and a team trying to get them back into the elite post-spurs. Did alright for PSG, not a disaster and did alright at Chelsea. Messy clubs but don't think those stints dented his reputation more took him out of the 'fashionable' managers. It did hinder his ability to play how he wants, but its normal in top jobs. If he were to wait he would get offers from more or less clubs of our size. Like, Roma, Napoli, Dortmund sort of jobs. But its an interesting gig.

The next world cup is in the USA, it's an exciting project and can fully understand why he might be tempted, and a team which on paper could actually be decent in the tournament. In two years time he could go back to club football if he likes.

I mean Lopategui, Enrique, Hansi Flick, Roy Hodgson, Sampaoli, Bielsa, Van Gaal, Hiddink and even Ange, were all mid career managers with previous club experiences at a high level who then came back to manage at a good level of club football. If Poch were to, say, get the USA into the quarter finals, he probably would come out of that with a lot of good club offers. Probably better than he would now.

But also. Why? Like why should be doing anything? He is a manager now, not a footballer. It's not a short career anymore. If he wants he can manage another 20 years or more. So why should he be doing anything? He should surely be picking the jobs that interest him. International football might allow him to see more of his family and be away from club politics and stuff for a while. It could be a good fit for him too. It might be that his ultimate personal goal is to manage Argentina. If that's his aim this is a very sensible move. If his aim is to win the Champions League it's not.

But the move doesn't define his career or moves him in a fixed direction. He could fail at the USA, not imposible often expectations are overly high there. But then a team like Español would still be available to him. He does well at that he could end up in the real madrid job. Like a similar story to Van Gaal or countless other managers who have gone backwards to go forwards again.

Poch right now probably needs a project to show his best, probably with young maluable players. The USA is international, but it is that too. It is an intriguing prospect for him, and, as I said before, does a good job there and it really would push him towards the Argentina job.
 

sidford

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You would think his career has been a disaster by the way you are making it sound. What exactly did you think the rest of his career would go?

Yes he went to two money clubs but two top jobs but didn't do particularly badly in either, and now he is going to do an international gig. I mean he could have waited to see if England were ready or Argentina.

I think he has done alright. Like he managed an elite team and a team trying to get them back into the elite post-spurs. Did alright for PSG, not a disaster and did alright at Chelsea. Messy clubs but don't think those stints dented his reputation more took him out of the 'fashionable' managers. It did hinder his ability to play how he wants, but its normal in top jobs. If he were to wait he would get offers from more or less clubs of our size. Like, Roma, Napoli, Dortmund sort of jobs. But its an interesting gig.

The next world cup is in the USA, it's an exciting project and can fully understand why he might be tempted, and a team which on paper could actually be decent in the tournament. In two years time he could go back to club football if he likes.

I mean Lopategui, Enrique, Hansi Flick, Roy Hodgson, Sampaoli, Bielsa, Van Gaal, Hiddink and even Ange, were all mid career managers with previous club experiences at a high level who then came back to manage at a good level of club football. If Poch were to, say, get the USA into the quarter finals, he probably would come out of that with a lot of good club offers. Probably better than he would now.

But also. Why? Like why should be doing anything? He is a manager now, not a footballer. It's not a short career anymore. If he wants he can manage another 20 years or more. So why should he be doing anything? He should surely be picking the jobs that interest him. International football might allow him to see more of his family and be away from club politics and stuff for a while. It could be a good fit for him too. It might be that his ultimate personal goal is to manage Argentina. If that's his aim this is a very sensible move. If his aim is to win the Champions League it's not.

But the move doesn't define his career or moves him in a fixed direction. He could fail at the USA, not imposible often expectations are overly high there. But then a team like Español would still be available to him. He does well at that he could end up in the real madrid job. Like a similar story to Van Gaal or countless other managers who have gone backwards to go forwards again.

Poch right now probably needs a project to show his best, probably with young maluable players. The USA is international, but it is that too. It is an intriguing prospect for him, and, as I said before, does a good job there and it really would push him towards the Argentina job.

He is a project manager who took 2 jobs with non project clubs. No manager lasts in PSG and yes it isn't career ending getting the sack there as most managers do but by taking that job he missed out on jobs at proper clubs that give managers a chance to stay longer than 18 months.
He then went to Chelsea under the current ownership, now he couldnt of known exactly how fucked up their model is but there had to be clues especially after giving Potter such a long deal and then sacking him 8 months in with a mess of a squad that they had already assembled.
Now he has taken an international job where managers cant have as much impact as club managers can regarding style, improving players etc

His career choices post spurs have been poor and I would be very surprised if he doesn't already regret them
 

tommo84

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Aug 15, 2005
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What a waste. International football is a dead end for head coaches, and at this particular time the ceiling for the USMNT would appear to be quite low.
 

yankspurs

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What a waste. International football is a dead end for head coaches, and at this particular time the ceiling for the USMNT would appear to be quite low.
Certainly not winners but the pool is good enough to surprise everyone if we can get a CB next to Richards & if a keeper steps up . It's a massive moment for the US' future & we needed to show ambition to play a football that can inspire a future generation. If he can bring some of his football from when he was with us & surprise with a round of 8 or semi's he'll have more than done his job. My worry is that he requires a lot of time to work with the team & that's not what international football is.

Personally shocked don garber allowed such a hire. I always mentally prepare myself for him to force mls guys on the men's program. That's been his forte. Massive coup as Poch is still a top 10-15 manager in football. By far the best manager in women's football & top 10-15 in men's. Good ambition by Crocker after he started off with such a fuck up by b bringing back Berhalter.
 
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Rout-Ledge

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Jul 29, 2005
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I still like poch. He clearly didn’t vibe with Chelsea and his comments before our game with them enraged their fans
 

cjbyid

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He'll leave once he gets another top offer from Europe I reckon.

No way he's hanging around there till the next world cup.
 

robertgoulet

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Jul 23, 2013
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On one hand I am very excited we went out and got a "name" and seem serious. On the other hand I think he's going to make for a terrible national team manager. Can't be worse than Jurgen or GGG though!
 

C0YS

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He'll leave once he gets another top offer from Europe I reckon.

No way he's hanging around there till the next world cup.
If he ideally wants to come in preseason, he is probably set for another year out of managment even if he didn't go down the international route. So an extra year on top of that for such an exciting project. I hope he does follow it through.
 

C0YS

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On one hand I am very excited we went out and got a "name" and seem serious. On the other hand I think he's going to make for a terrible national team manager. Can't be worse than Jurgen or GGG though!
I'm not sure, he just needs to simplify his message. But he has the basic tools for it. He is a good man manager and thats most of the battle, he is good at making a team like mentality. And because the USA have already qualified he can do more work on the training ground than other teams. But he just needs to be a little bit flexible internationally.
 

ljinko888

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I think this is his "waiting room" job. Nice cushy job where he doesn't have to play qualification matches for the World Cup as they host it, they can get to a quarter final in 2026 which would be good for them, he can put in a better performance in continental competition with this generation of players coming to their prime (getting out of the group is the floor). If he overachieves the PR he will get will be huge and if not he won't be tainted. Nothing to lose really taking the job.
 
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