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gibbospurs

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Hang on, didn't this thread get bumped yesterday because Juve are looking at him? Why all the talk about pros/cons of him signing for us?

I thought we'd made an approach until I read back a page to see what had happened.
It’s because there is nothing else to chat about.
 

vegassd

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If we can’t afford to have one extra club trained player in the squad what is the point in being in the Europa league.
The point of being in the Europa league is to try and win the Europa league!? We don't need Marcus Edwards to achieve that.

Nothing to do with being able to afford a player. If Edwards is not seen as good enough by Ange, there's no point signing him.
 

bombarda

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I've watched probably 80% of Marcus Edwards' games over the last 2.5 years, and there is no doubt in my mind that he offers us something different, and I would jump at the chance to sign him. The way he cuts in from the wing is something that I would say only Son does in the same way. Kulu a little bit, but usually higher up and without the pace. If we have Johnson struggling to get to the byline in games, Edwards would be ideal to change things up from the right. If he hadn't previously been with us, we'd be wondering why we're not spending £12m on him. Instead, because of the way he never broke through, everybody is far too quick to write him off, despite not paying proper attention to him since he left.
 

yido_number1

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I've watched probably 80% of Marcus Edwards' games over the last 2.5 years, and there is no doubt in my mind that he offers us something different, and I would jump at the chance to sign him. The way he cuts in from the wing is something that I would say only Son does in the same way. Kulu a little bit, but usually higher up and without the pace. If we have Johnson struggling to get to the byline in games, Edwards would be ideal to change things up from the right. If he hadn't previously been with us, we'd be wondering why we're not spending £12m on him. Instead, because of the way he never broke through, everybody is far too quick to write him off, despite not paying proper attention to him since he left.
I like him, I think we need someone like him that wants to attack players with the ball.

Others don't think he's good enough and that's fair enough but I'd take him over Werner and Soloman
 

WiganSpur

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I've watched probably 80% of Marcus Edwards' games over the last 2.5 years, and there is no doubt in my mind that he offers us something different, and I would jump at the chance to sign him. The way he cuts in from the wing is something that I would say only Son does in the same way. Kulu a little bit, but usually higher up and without the pace. If we have Johnson struggling to get to the byline in games, Edwards would be ideal to change things up from the right. If he hadn't previously been with us, we'd be wondering why we're not spending £12m on him. Instead, because of the way he never broke through, everybody is far too quick to write him off, despite not paying proper attention to him since he left.
My only concern with Edwards is how often he can go on the outside. He seems to be quite fast but not absolutely explosive, and it seems like he prefers to come inside and dribble through the centre of the pitch quite a lot. Might just be his instructions though.
 

WiganSpur

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We don't need more options. We need more guys who improve our first team. This guy simply does not.
There is some exception for Edwards given he is club trained. So in that sense, he wouldn’t clog up the squad and prevent others from coming in.

Im in the same boat with Edwards as I’m in with Hermoso. I’m OK with it if it meant a first team quality player was brought in elsewhere this window. However both Edwards and Hermoso would be hugely underwhelming. It would have to be viewed in the context of the entire window is what I’m saying.
 

Rodrigonodefendi

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Didn’t he keep less than favourable company? Did he cut tied completly or would coming back put him within reach of that influence again?
 

FibreOpticJesus

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We don't need to fill a club trained quota. We have enough quality U21's that we don't need to hit the maximum on any of the quota's in order to have a large enough squad to compete.

In fact the only quota we really need to take any notice of is how many foreign players we have because that is the one we are likely in danger of over filling.
Doesn’t work if Gray, Solanke and Bergvall are in our Europa squad as they all count as non-homegrown even though two of them are u21.
 

jondre91

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There is some exception for Edwards given he is club trained. So in that sense, he wouldn’t clog up the squad and prevent others from coming in.

Im in the same boat with Edwards as I’m in with Hermoso. I’m OK with it if it meant a first team quality player was brought in elsewhere this window. However both Edwards and Hermoso would be hugely underwhelming. It would have to be viewed in the context of the entire window is what I’m saying.
Exactly. This signing isn’t a quality one. It’s a paper work one. I’m not against it because I would prefer more options when a competition gets congested.
 

npearl4spurs

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It doesn't take a genius to see that this could happen with the profile of player we need especially the CT aspect. Something in me is nervous about it though...just too much history and let down
 

JamieSpursCommunityUser

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My only concern with Edwards is how often he can go on the outside. He seems to be quite fast but not absolutely explosive, and it seems like he prefers to come inside and dribble through the centre of the pitch quite a lot. Might just be his instructions though.

Wonderful balance and technique though.

When Poch made the stylistic Messi comparison years ago he was talking about his balance and dribbling style.

He takes constant small touches of the ball at speed. With his control, technique, and balance he goes right up to defenders - waits for them to balance one way, then goes past them.

His acceleration has improved a lot as he's filled out, but that's his key quality.

He often cuts inside but can just as easily drop the shoulder and go outside if required.

He's always had very good composure and decision making in the final third, and his weaker right food is decent.

He doesn't have exceptional top speed so what tends to happen in transitions is he'll beat his man on the half way line, go past him, then 30 yards later if isolated defenders will catch up and foul him.

But when he takes players on near the goal he consistently creates separation to shoot/cross.

He's never had elite athleticism to run and press at high intensity for 90-100 minutes.

Then again we also have pressing machines in Werner who couldn't create diddly against low blocks.

He's also a quieter more introverted characer than Ange normally goes for.

So I'd be pleased but still somewhat surprised if we signed him.
 
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ajspurs

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It doesn't take a genius to see that this could happen with the profile of player we need especially the CT aspect. Something in me is nervous about it though...just too much history and let down

For me it's not really strictly about the player, and I'd probably even find it an interesting possibility under different circumstances. It's almost similar to what I felt with Werner in that my annoyance with such a deal stems from the real necessity to have a noticeably higher level of quality in that final third and how we only have so much space to fit said players in.
 

JamieSpursCommunityUser

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Are there any actual legitimate links to us wanting to sign Edwards, or Edwards wanting to come here?

I was more responding because I can see a rage boiling that gets taken out on Edwards when the inevitable link arises.

Bit like the pitchforks aimed at Danny Rose new contract the summer before he became our PL all timer LB.

Though I did have this in the back of my mind from earlier today.

If I were to guess I would say if/when Skipp goes then likely KWP or Edwards will come in.

I think there's been consistent ITK that could be the case. May have changed.

But if as seems we want Hermoso and a CM then I'd say very likely.

As we won't have space for a non club trained winger - that's even if we leave Davies AND Forster out of the EL squad.

 

Freddie

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There is some exception for Edwards given he is club trained. So in that sense, he wouldn’t clog up the squad and prevent others from coming in.

Im in the same boat with Edwards as I’m in with Hermoso. I’m OK with it if it meant a first team quality player was brought in elsewhere this window. However both Edwards and Hermoso would be hugely underwhelming. It would have to be viewed in the context of the entire window is what I’m saying.
But you have to view the signing in the context of what our squad needs. We have a bunch of wide attackers who can be great on their day but aren't consistent enough to help us push on. This is THE position in which we need a quality player. Every signing should be brought in with the aim of solving a problem.
 

WiganSpur

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Wonderful balance and technique though.

When Poch made the stylistic Messi comparison years ago he was talking about his balance and dribbling style.

He takes constant small touches of the ball at speed. With his control, technique, and balance he goes right up to defenders - waits for them to balance one way, then goes past them.

His acceleration has improved a lot as he's filled out, but that's his key quality.

He often cuts inside but can just as easily drop the shoulder and go outside if required.

He's always had very good composure and decision making in the final third, and his weaker right food is decent.

He doesn't have exceptional top speed so what tends to happen in transitions is he'll beat his man on the half way line, go past him, then 30 yards later if isolated defenders will catch up and foul him.

But when he takes players on near the goal he consistently creates separation to shoot/cross.

He's never had elite athleticism to run and press at high intensity for 90-100 minutes.

Then again we also have pressing machines in Werner who couldn't create diddly against low blocks.

He's also a quieter more introverted characer than Ange normally goes for.

So I'd be pleased but still somewhat surprised if we signed him.
Oh I like him a lot, but there is obviously a sense that we could do better as well imo.
I was more responding because I can see a rage boiling that gets taken out on Edwards when the inevitable link arises.

Bit like the pitchforks aimed at Danny Rose new contract the summer before he became our PL all timer LB.

Though I did have this in the back of my mind from earlier today.

If I were to guess I would say if/when Skipp goes then likely KWP or Edwards will come in.

I think there's been consistent ITK that could be the case. May have changed.

But if as seems we want Hermoso and a CM then I'd say very likely.

As we won't have space for a non club trained winger - that's even if we leave Davies AND Forster out of the EL squad.


KWP makes zero sense now club trained or not. Waste of wages and transfer fee surely. At least Edwards offers us some abilities that we are lacking in the attacking areas.
 
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