Marcus Edwards

[kd2000]

I doubt accounting comes into it for a club like Sporting - who often make profits on player sales. I can't imagine that they are close to any profit/loss regulations. Most recent accounts seem to show a net profit of about 36M Euros

What they will want - maximize the money coming to them.

thanks for the reply. I dont really keep up with Portuguese football. Have they got anyone presently that they can bring decent money in for, or is Marcus their more likely saleable player this year?
Obviously they have players they could sell, i mean are they looking to?

 

[jpascavitz]

You’ve got to factor in that we’re playing Europe this season though. I don’t think trimming the squad too much in the wide areas is the best idea. Let’s hope Santiago impresses.

We can bring in only Neto, Doue and a LB/LCB and register everyone as long as we sell or loan:

-PEH
-GLC
-Bryan
-Solomon
-Veliz
-Skipp
-Royal
-Davies
-Spence
-Reguilon
-Phillips

The reason (of course, granted Ange approves) I like the idea of Edwards for the squad is that although he mostly plays from the right he does have experience in a F9/CF, LW, and CAM. So if we decided not to go for a CF due to the market and was able to get Doue for this example then it seems we would really be developing a really fluid squad.

Not to get off track, but it's the reason I like that we're targeting the possibility of a KWP type too since he can cover on either side. Not every signing IMO has to be a Gray, Bergvall or Doue type signing - some can be more short sighted to cover squad gaps.

Anyways then we would be looking at:

Werner - LW, ST (in pinch)
Son - LW, ST
Doue - LW, RW, CAM, CM

Richarlison - ST, LW
Scarlett - ST

Johnson - RW, LW, ST (in pinch)
Kulusveski - RW, LW, CAM, ST, CM
Edwards - RW, LW, CAM, ST

I personally feel like that may be enough for three positions across the comps? I would then look to replace Werner with a ST next Summer to complete the rebuild.

 

[yankspurs]

I wonder if there’s an opportunity to do something clever here with an Eze deal and waiving the sell on clause

I would do many, many, many things to sign Eze. Any thing we can do to make that happen would be great with me. If it means shedding the sell on to lower palace's price.

 

[mil1lion]

The reason (of course, granted Ange approves) I like the idea of Edwards for the squad is that although he mostly plays from the right he does have experience in a F9/CF, LW, and CAM. So if we decided not to go for a CF due to the market and was able to get Doue for this example then it seems we would really be developing a really fluid squad.

Not to get off track, but it's the reason I like that we're targeting the possibility of a KWP type too since he can cover on either side. Not every signing IMO has to be a Gray, Bergvall or Doue type signing - some can be more short sighted to cover squad gaps.

Anyways then we would be looking at:

Werner - LW, ST (in pinch)
Son - LW, ST
Doue - LW, RW, CAM, CM

Richarlison - ST, LW
Scarlett - ST

Johnson - RW, LW, ST (in pinch)
Kulusveski - RW, LW, CAM, ST, CM
Edwards - RW, LW, CAM, ST

I personally feel like that may be enough for three positions across the comps? I would then look to replace Werner with a ST next Summer to complete the rebuild.

Personally I would prefer we go all in for Eze and Neto rather than Doue and Edwards. Maybe it will work out more expensive but if we do use this Edwards to Palace sell on it might bridge the difference.

 

[Hertsspur10]

I believe we are due a kickback from a sell on % if Edwards leaves.

 

[Kevous79]

Sell on % maybe some leverage in a deal for Locatelli IF we're pursuing him?

 

[Trix]

Sell on % maybe some leverage in a deal for Locatelli IF we're pursuing him?

Not sure how the mental gymnastics work on this sort of thing. I genuinely don't see how it would benefit anyone tbh.

 

[Buster18]

Baffling how Juvenile are in for him. He can’t get in the Sporting team

 

[funkycoldmedina]

Baffling how Juvenile are in for him. He can’t get in the Sporting team

Marcus Edwards wants to play for Spurs again and the only way is by joining our feeder club and Juve want another Spurs payday.

 

[spursville]

He plays (sometimes not very well) for Sporting. Let's leave him at Sporting.

 

[Pochemon94]

Not sure how the mental gymnastics work on this sort of thing. I genuinely don't see how it would benefit anyone tbh.

find a middle ground maybe, huge mental gymnastics on this but lets say deal is 30mil we have 20% sell on, we drop the sell on clause instead of juve paying 30 they pay 26, sporting gets more money, juve saves some and we could get locatelli.

Now that i have written this out, it makes zero sense and good god hahahahh

 

[Powder Keg]

Every time this thread is bumped I have a panic attack

 

[Neon_Knight_]

He plays (sometimes not very well) for Sporting. Let's leave him at Sporting.

I 'd prefer him moving (to someone other than us), due to the sell-on clause.

 

[Johnny J]

Every time this thread is bumped I have a panic attack

Don't do it to yourself! (Also: sorry)

Edwards remains an enigma. Feels like his reputation has grown the last couple of years. He'd definitely give us something different as a more technical forward.

 

[philll]

I feel like I'm going to be hearing about sell-on percentages in relation to Edwards until he retires.

 

[Ray Ray]

He's the type of singing a Brentford, Brighton, or Everton make.

He's not a top 4 player right now, and if he didn't have the spurs links we wouldn't even be remotely linked.

Rather see if he can make the jump in another team and then pay 30-40m then, than take the risk now where we need to be making improvements on the squads, not punts.

 

[theShiznit]

I feel like I'm going to be hearing about sell-on percentages in relation to Edwards until he retires.

He'll sell a house in his 60's and Daniel will be on the phone... "you owe us 20% of that..."

 

[C0YS]

Baffling how Juvenile are in for him. He can’t get in the Sporting team

I don't think Juventus is particularly better than Sporting right now, I imagine their worse if anything, though of a similar level. I don't think we are a better team than sporting right now either for what it's worth. So just because a player is on someones bench isn't a reason to not consider them.

Edwards doesn't start because he got injured and lost his starting place to Trincao. Yes, I know Trincao did a bunch of fancy tricks for Wolves (and Barca) but with no productivity but he was a young player, and now he has matured. Trincao and Edwards are very similar players so they're basically in direct competition with each other. But not every team has players like this.

Sporting would keep Edwards but he has only a few years left on the contract so Sporting would idealy sell him and I think he wants to go to. They don't need him and this the opportunity to make money.

I think he would be a decent option for Juventus, I think Edwards is recognised by most teams as an interesting player, though rarely on top of peoples transfer list, mostly because of his inconsistancy.

In other leagues outside of the PL, although this is changing, you often sign based on what you squad needs and evaluating what the player offers, rather than what "level" they are playing at for that specific season (which is why a dutch friend of mine would always laugh PL transfers, because in the past in particular they tended to just buy whoever did well in that moment without considering at all how it fits with the sytem and line up or anything). Bentancur and Deki would have been stupid transfers with that logic, instead we should have signed Mckennie and Bernardeschi who found themselves ahead in the pecking order. Different squads have different needs, different players thrive under different systems. Even similar players like Trincao vs Edwards, I don't know enough but maybe you can see Edwards as more positionally flexible (he has played as a false 9 for Sporting with a lot of success) which may suit a specific style more than Trincao.

Edwards has performed very well, before his injury, in the Champions League against quality teams (including us, he played exceptionally well against us and scored). He has particular abilities at taking people on and also a knack of providing decisive moments (even detractors of Edwards in Sporting forums concede this). Thats not a common thing. Juventus have.... Chiesa and that's basically it. And they want to sell Chiesa because his wages are too high and his contract is running down.

Illing-Junior provided certain abilty to come on and try to create something, but Juventus lack game changers, risk takers etc. A team kinda needs some of those sometimes, also Juve really lack forward options, they have two strikers, normally enough but if those two become unavailable they have nothing at all, getting in Edwards could mean you have an emergency third option. Edwards is available, he is good enough to make an impact in serie A, he has a very high ceiling as well. So considering him is logical. He fits the need, he has quality and he is afforable. Rejecting the option because he is sitting on the bench of a very good team is totally illogical. If you buy just who is in form it can lead to a very incoherent transfer stratagy.

Juventus are also signing Kalulu who had a shit season last season, completely lost his place after his injury, but Motta requires a certain intensity. He is a player with that intensity. He is available, not too expensive, you sign him. Because your CBs don't have the balance required to do you system. It's a similar concept. You are crafting a team and a squad not a collection of the best 11/21 footballers in the world, which if you did by the way they wouldn't be all that good.

The need to quickly change the team to fit the new managers style also means you need to provide the right options pretty early. I don't think they will sign Edwards, but it makes sense that they consider it.

When it comes to us and Edwards I personally don't see the need, but he actually would be an option, he would give us something we don't have, he could work quite nicely. So if we needed more depth and the price made sense, it's not to reject out of hand. As an oportunistic signing. Would it make sense to make him a top target? No. Would I be okay with the signing? Absolutley, it makes sense logisitically (good value, home grown, club trained) and I think he would be able to contribute here and offer us something different.

 

[whitechina]

I don't think Juventus is particularly better than Sporting right now, I imagine their worse if anything, though of a similar level. I don't think we are a better team than sporting right now either for what it's worth. So just because a player is on someones bench isn't a reason to not consider them.

Edwards doesn't start because he got injured and lost his starting place to Trincao. Yes, I know Trincao did a bunch of fancy tricks for Wolves (and Barca) but with no productivity but he was a young player, and now he has matured. Trincao and Edwards are very similar players so they're basically in direct competition with each other. But not every team has players like this.

Sporting would keep Edwards but he has only a few years left on the contract so Sporting would idealy sell him and I think he wants to go to. They don't need him and this the opportunity to make money.

I think he would be a decent option for Juventus, I think Edwards is recognised by most teams as an interesting player, though rarely on top of peoples transfer list, mostly because of his inconsistancy.

In other leagues outside of the PL, although this is changing, you often sign based on what you squad needs and evaluating what the player offers, rather than what "level" they are playing at for that specific season (which is why a dutch friend of mine would always laugh PL transfers, because in the past in particular they tended to just buy whoever did well in that moment without considering at all how it fits with the sytem and line up or anything). Bentancur and Deki would have been stupid transfers with that logic, instead we should have signed Mckennie and Bernardeschi who found themselves ahead in the pecking order. Different squads have different needs, different players thrive under different systems. Even similar players like Trincao vs Edwards, I don't know enough but maybe you can see Edwards as more positionally flexible (he has played as a false 9 for Sporting with a lot of success) which may suit a specific style more than Trincao.

Edwards has performed very well, before his injury, in the Champions League against quality teams (including us, he played exceptionally well against us and scored). He has particular abilities at taking people on and also a knack of providing decisive moments (even detractors of Edwards in Sporting forums concede this). Thats not a common thing. Juventus have.... Chiesa and that's basically it. And they want to sell Chiesa because his wages are too high and his contract is running down.

Illing-Junior provided certain abilty to come on and try to create something, but Juventus lack game changers, risk takers etc. A team kinda needs some of those sometimes, also Juve really lack forward options, they have two strikers, normally enough but if those two become unavailable they have nothing at all, getting in Edwards could mean you have an emergency third option. Edwards is available, he is good enough to make an impact in serie A, he has a very high ceiling as well. So considering him is logical. He fits the need, he has quality and he is afforable. Rejecting the option because he is sitting on the bench of a very good team is totally illogical. If you buy just who is in form it can lead to a very incoherent transfer stratagy.

Juventus are also signing Kalulu who had a shit season last season, completely lost his place after his injury, but Motta requires a certain intensity. He is a player with that intensity. He is available, not too expensive, you sign him. Because your CBs don't have the balance required to do you system. It's a similar concept. You are crafting a team and a squad not a collection of the best 11/21 footballers in the world, which if you did by the way they wouldn't be all that good.

The need to quickly change the team to fit the new managers style also means you need to provide the right options pretty early. I don't think they will sign Edwards, but it makes sense that they consider it.

When it comes to us and Edwards I personally don't see the need, but he actually would be an option, he would give us something we don't have, he could work quite nicely. So if we needed more depth and the price made sense, it's not to reject out of hand. As an oportunistic signing. Would it make sense to make him a top target? No. Would I be okay with the signing? Absolutley, it makes sense logisitically (good value, home grown, club trained) and I think he would be able to contribute here and offer us something different.

Thanks for that post.
Very informative

 

[Nayim60yards]

Baffling how Juvenile are in for him. He can’t get in the Sporting team

I assume spell-check got involved here rather than you making a juvenile attempt at humour?