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Marcus Edwards leaving rumour?

Blake Griffin

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Yahaya won't be there until he actually signs (if he gets a work permit). Edwards isn't there, because he technically doesn't join the "academy" (essentially players 16-18) until this season, so knowing our website, that intake won't be on there until January. Roles, Brown, Mukena, Tsaroulla, Bennetts, Oteh & Shashoua have all signed scholorships (confirmed) but none are on the website. I believe we are just waiting for confirmation on Streling, Edwards, Tangana, Whiteman, Ducan and Marsh.

tanganga and whiteman have confirmed too.
 

IGSpur

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Yahaya won't be there until he actually signs (if he gets a work permit). Edwards isn't there, because he technically doesn't join the "academy" (essentially players 16-18) until this season, so knowing our website, that intake won't be on there until January. Roles, Brown, Mukena, Tsaroulla, Bennetts, Oteh & Shashoua have all signed scholorships (confirmed) but none are on the website. I believe we are just waiting for confirmation on Streling, Edwards, Tangana, Whiteman, Ducan and Marsh.

tanganga and whiteman have confirmed too.

Marsh has also confirmed
 

Main Man

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Unless he has signed a contract, he has no obligation to sign for our youth team whatsoever.

He is a very talented individual, but it's not worth losing sleep over if he decides to get the money somewhere else.

This perceived attitude seems to mirror exactly what I have seen on the pitch.
 

newbie

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Marcus is going nowhere, wants to make his debut at spurs.

hi Yiditti can I ask how you know this ? or this your opinion I have heard his family are spurs fans and want him at Spurs, but you never know with Chelsea and citys fat cheques landing on his door step you never know.
 

newbie

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His tweet said "Defo Leaving" which was the same day our under 18s played and he wasn't in the squad, it could be nothing, it could be something or he could be a Sunderland ITK and just spelled Jermain's name wrong.

it could have meant he was leaving school lol or anything
 

Yiditti

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hi Yiditti can I ask how you know this ? or this your opinion I have heard his family are spurs fans and want him at Spurs, but you never know with Chelsea and citys fat cheques landing on his door step you never know.

Know his Dad really well
 

Yiditti

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He's been with us since he was a kid and wants to go all the way with us. Very, very ambitious (and rightly so) wants to be playing at a level higher than the present and gets frustrated when overlooked. The main thing for him is he wants to be playing football at a level that is challenging him, if we cant give him that then wouldn't be surprised if he leaves. From what I know Poch knows of him.
 

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He's been with us since he was a kid and wants to go all the way with us. Very, very ambitious (and rightly so) wants to be playing at a level higher than the present and gets frustrated when overlooked. The main thing for him is he wants to be playing football at a level that is challenging him, if we cant give him that then wouldn't be surprised if he leaves. From what I know Poch knows of him.

My source earlier in the season was also from his Dad and I basically said the same thing. He gets frustrated when his friends are playing at a higher level and they want him to stay with us, that was back in February/March, good to hear his view has stayed the same. While his Dad is important still at the end of the day it is his decision. While people say don't bend to players demands not everyone should be treated the same I think we need to get him some sub u21 appearances. At least if he struggles there he can temper his expectations.

On talksport yesterday they did an interesting piece on Pogba, I'm sure most but not all know his story, but he was there at 15 highly rated, won the FAYC with them. Made 3 first team appearances. Man U were facing Blackburn with a crisis in midfield. Blackburn were bottom and Man Utd didn't even need to win it to stay top. They had Rafael and Park Ji Sung in CM instead of a young and inexperienced Pogba. They lost 3 -2 and he never made it on the pitch. They then got Scholes out of retirement, and Pogba realised he wasn't going to get his chance. He is now worth 60m and a CL finalist and regular French international at 22. What a mistake by Fergie. I know people always go on about youth needing experience, but when you have really talented players who are confident in their ability, sometimes you just need to give them a chance, otherwise they will go looking elsewhere. Fergie may not have wanted to give him what he deemed a big contract or whatever but what would they pay for him now. Sometimes you need to give these young players a chance, mollycoddle them and occasionally pay what is needed to keep them. As I type this I am thinking of Edwards, Onomah (when people say he isn't ready or needs a loan) and Bentaleb. Pogba didn't have a loan either, if your talented you are talented just require a bit of faith.
 

barry

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My source earlier in the season was also from his Dad and I basically said the same thing. He gets frustrated when his friends are playing at a higher level and they want him to stay with us, that was back in February/March, good to hear his view has stayed the same. While his Dad is important still at the end of the day it is his decision. While people say don't bend to players demands not everyone should be treated the same I think we need to get him some sub u21 appearances. At least if he struggles there he can temper his expectations.

On talksport yesterday they did an interesting piece on Pogba, I'm sure most but not all know his story, but he was there at 15 highly rated, won the FAYC with them. Made 3 first team appearances. Man U were facing Blackburn with a crisis in midfield. Blackburn were bottom and Man Utd didn't even need to win it to stay top. They had Rafael and Park Ji Sung in CM instead of a young and inexperienced Pogba. They lost 3 -2 and he never made it on the pitch. They then got Scholes out of retirement, and Pogba realised he wasn't going to get his chance. He is now worth 60m and a CL finalist and regular French international at 22. What a mistake by Fergie. I know people always go on about youth needing experience, but when you have really talented players who are confident in their ability, sometimes you just need to give them a chance, otherwise they will go looking elsewhere. Fergie may not have wanted to give him what he deemed a big contract or whatever but what would they pay for him now. Sometimes you need to give these young players a chance, mollycoddle them and occasionally pay what is needed to keep them. As I type this I am thinking of Edwards, Onomah (when people say he isn't ready or needs a loan) and Bentaleb. Pogba didn't have a loan either, if your talented you are talented just require a bit of faith.

You would accept tottenham getting battered while some big headed youth learns the ropes,over a career hardened professional. Pogba's a one off and Imo overrated atm. People are paying for his potential.
If he's so fucking confident, send him on loan to get some competitive football. If he does well great,if not maybe he'll learn some humility and patience.
 

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You would accept tottenham getting battered while some big headed youth learns the ropes,over a career hardened professional. Pogba's a one off and Imo overrated atm. People are paying for his potential.
If he's so fucking confident, send him on loan to get some competitive football. If he does well great,if not maybe he'll learn some humility and patience.

Nope that's not what @IGSpur is saying, Its about playing youngsters who you think could be ready when its appropriate.

Look at ManU again - they didn't play Pogba and lost the match - and lost Pogba after for peanuts instead of having a world class star come through.

Edwards is rated by many as the best in his England year group, and possibly from several England year groups. that's why his progress needs to be carefully managed so that Spurs gets a potentially world class player in a few year's time.
 
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IGSpur

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You would accept tottenham getting battered while some big headed youth learns the ropes,over a career hardened professional. Pogba's a one off and Imo overrated atm. People are paying for his potential.
If he's so fucking confident, send him on loan to get some competitive football. If he does well great,if not maybe he'll learn some humility and patience.

Why would they get battered? People seem to suddenly think that having PL experience makes them a better player. Noone rated Livermore when he came through with us, but all of a sudden I bet people would be happier having Livermore in our team over Onomah just because he played a few seasons in the Prem, depsite Onomah being the better player.

I wouldn't sign Cattermole over playing Winks just because Cattermole is battle hardened, how do you ever bring through players it is ridiculous. And ye people are paying for his potential the same way we seem to be willing to spend 18m on Martial. They took a risk on Pogba and put faith in him rather than same battle hardned player and now have one of the best young players in the world who cost 60m. Did Bentaleb let us down when he came in? Of course he didn't. Such a myopic view
 

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My source earlier in the season was also from his Dad and I basically said the same thing. He gets frustrated when his friends are playing at a higher level and they want him to stay with us, that was back in February/March, good to hear his view has stayed the same. While his Dad is important still at the end of the day it is his decision. While people say don't bend to players demands not everyone should be treated the same I think we need to get him some sub u21 appearances. At least if he struggles there he can temper his expectations.

On talksport yesterday they did an interesting piece on Pogba, I'm sure most but not all know his story, but he was there at 15 highly rated, won the FAYC with them. Made 3 first team appearances. Man U were facing Blackburn with a crisis in midfield. Blackburn were bottom and Man Utd didn't even need to win it to stay top. They had Rafael and Park Ji Sung in CM instead of a young and inexperienced Pogba. They lost 3 -2 and he never made it on the pitch. They then got Scholes out of retirement, and Pogba realised he wasn't going to get his chance. He is now worth 60m and a CL finalist and regular French international at 22. What a mistake by Fergie. I know people always go on about youth needing experience, but when you have really talented players who are confident in their ability, sometimes you just need to give them a chance, otherwise they will go looking elsewhere. Fergie may not have wanted to give him what he deemed a big contract or whatever but what would they pay for him now. Sometimes you need to give these young players a chance, mollycoddle them and occasionally pay what is needed to keep them. As I type this I am thinking of Edwards, Onomah (when people say he isn't ready or needs a loan) and Bentaleb. Pogba didn't have a loan either, if your talented you are talented just require a bit of faith.

My mate worked at Bolton years a go and watched every reserve and under 18 game, I said who is the btest youth player you have seen (this was about 4-5 years a go) he said straight away Pogba, then I read scholes didn't rate him for the under 21s at united. Funny really has my mate was so adamant about him it took another 3 years before I had even heard his name and that was when he was signed by Juv
 

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Why would they get battered? People seem to suddenly think that having PL experience makes them a better player. Noone rated Livermore when he came through with us, but all of a sudden I bet people would be happier having Livermore in our team over Onomah just because he played a few seasons in the Prem, depsite Onomah being the better player.

I wouldn't sign Cattermole over playing Winks just because Cattermole is battle hardened, how do you ever bring through players it is ridiculous. And ye people are paying for his potential the same way we seem to be willing to spend 18m on Martial. They took a risk on Pogba and put faith in him rather than same battle hardned player and now have one of the best young players in the world who cost 60m. Did Bentaleb let us down when he came in? Of course he didn't. Such a myopic view

I agree but also think though that if we had a player like "Cattermole" or carrick it would also help winks as they would provide the (nutter in Cattamoles :) ) man muscle and exp plus you know you would get 100 percent from Cattermole, he would keep it simple and help winks get though the game.


i agree with IG that we cant sign players for lots of money, we need to have a trim wage bill and build a squad using our academy if we are going to progress, we will struggle to sign a Messi but we could well find a Marcus Edwards if we don't give them a platform to play then we may as well give up on any chance moving the club forward.
 

barry

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Nope that's not what @IGSpur is saying, Its about playing youngsters who you think could be ready when its appropriate.

Look at ManU again - they didn't play Pogba and lost the match - and lost Pogba after for peanuts instead of having a world class star come through.

Edwards is rated by many as the best in his England year group, and possibly from several England year groups. that's why his progress needs to be carefully managed so that Spurs gets a potentially world class player in a few year's time.

I understand that and agree but if the club don't think he's ready but he puts up a play me or I'll leave ultimatum, what would you do?
 

IGSpur

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I understand that and agree but if the club don't think he's ready but he puts up a play me or I'll leave ultimatum, what would you do?

In the specific case of Pogba, well it depends on how high he is rated which is where Fergie made the mistake. What it tells me though is if he was on the bench Fergie obviously rated him otherwise why have him there. The problem was Fergie obviously didn't have the cajones at that moment to give him his chance which was the straw that broke the camel's back.

If he was just plan not rated and said play me or I'll leave, ill tell em to get on their bike.
 

barry

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In the specific case of Pogba, well it depends on how high he is rated which is where Fergie made the mistake. What it tells me though is if he was on the bench Fergie obviously rated him otherwise why have him there. The problem was Fergie obviously didn't have the cajones at that moment to give him his chance which was the straw that broke the camel's back.

If he was just plan not rated and said play me or I'll leave, ill tell em to get on their bike.

Say you rated them but didn't think they were ready? It's real tough mate.
 

garryparkerschest

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In the specific case of Pogba, well it depends on how high he is rated which is where Fergie made the mistake. What it tells me though is if he was on the bench Fergie obviously rated him otherwise why have him there. The problem was Fergie obviously didn't have the cajones at that moment to give him his chance which was the straw that broke the camel's back.

If he was just plan not rated and said play me or I'll leave, ill tell em to get on their bike.

To be fair to Fergie, he knew he was leaving by them and didn't give a sh1t. lol
 
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