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Jose Mourinho

How do you feel about Mourinho appointment

  • Excited - silverware here we come baby

    Votes: 666 46.7%
  • Meh - will give him a chance and hope he is successful

    Votes: 468 32.8%
  • Horrified - praying for the day he'll fuck off

    Votes: 292 20.5%

  • Total voters
    1,426

spurs-r-us

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Aug 21, 2008
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Don't believe in his system at all, but I do believe in the individual brilliance of our players - especially now the squad is fresh again. Mourinho needs to play to our strengths.
 

spids

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Jul 19, 2015
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I think the problem is our tactics change every game and are reactive. Right now whoever is in midfield seems slightly confused and primarily focussed on where they need to be when we don’t have the ball. Yesterday the plan appears to have been to play the ball in behind their FBs as quickly / directly as possible and led to our defenders totally bypassing midfield (aka Dier hoofing it out of play). It’s only when Kane re-interpreted the instructions and dropped between the lines to link play and be the creator that things clicked. This was helped by having Lamela and Lo Celso being more aggressive higher up the pitch than Ndombele and Moura had been.

But ultimately, the tactics are specific to opponents and reactive. And some players are being inhibited by them.
 

Dougal

Staff
Jun 4, 2004
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I think what you see on tv could be taken out of context. They could have said aboutnit jokingly before hand and.you dont know what expression Jose was pulling off camera.
I will say it didnt look good but meh, nothing to see there I feel.
On top of Mourinho interrupting the Kane interview to say Kane was man of the match and Kane tweeting ‘You’re welcome’ to Sonny after the game it was starting to get a bit much. Maybe it’s a cultural thing but that was a real moment for Sonny to enjoy and there just seemed a little sadness in him. Kane’s performance didn’t detract from his, both should be lauded.
 

rossdapep

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Aug 25, 2011
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With regards to Dier, Winks etc, I believe Jose likes them and will give them time to get better and fit within his system.

However, we all know how ruthless he can be and if they are both showing to be liabilities he will ask for them to be replaced.

It's the thing that held him back at United. He had numerous players who weren't doing what he asked or continuously letting him down, when he asked for upgrades he was told those players had to stay.

It's why Levy has to completely back him.

Just don't sign Lingard.
 

Real_madyidd

The best username, unless you are a fucking idiot.
Oct 25, 2004
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Yeah that's the issue, dorthey, peh, winks and Lucas, dier getting called out because theyre just decent.
Seems he needs 11 world class players on the pitch , when really he needs to make players perform above their limitations.

We'll see what happens come end of season, not confident though

What is this? He needs 11 World class players? Since when?
 

Real_madyidd

The best username, unless you are a fucking idiot.
Oct 25, 2004
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Got it spot in again today, the team didn’t catch on until half time though. Southampton were seemingly on top but I said to my mate at half time the warning signs were there, disallowed goals, offsides. We just didn’t click until NDombele swivelled for our first. Suddenly we knew what we were meant to be doing.

Pretty sure it was the plan all along. Half time in the saints dressing room would have consisted of "keep doing what you are doing". We then changed things up.
 

spids

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Jul 19, 2015
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After 44 mins yesterday I was thinking that you could give Mourinho £200m to spend and we’ll not win anything as it looked like he’d lost the dressing room with his negative tactics. Then at full time you have to, however begrudgingly, accept he knows what he’s doing and the squad is still being shaped in his image. I said back pre-lockdown that he shouldn’t be judged until Xmas after a full preseason with players he wants, and that is still the best course of action. Once players are fit, those going have gone, new players are fully integrated, then we’ll see what he’s made of. And when you think about his famous interview highlighting how Klopp had three years to build a team... imagine if this year we qualify for CL and then next summer we sign a tier 1 CB and maybe a better DCM - that would be inside 2 years. This team can evolve with success and the investment it is finally getting.
 

mdharris

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Oct 12, 2005
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I’m cautiously optimistic. If the rumors are true and we are looking for a QB style CM to partner PEH, then I think JM thinks we need better than Winks. I agree.

I’d love to see a line up of

Kane
Son Lamela Bale
PEH GLC
Reg Dier Sanchez Doh
HL

I think GLC and Lamela work very hard, and could provide enough defensive energy, alongside PEH sitting deeper and cleaning up/ covering lanes. Both GLC and Lamela can hold on to the ball and create. Which would help in transition up to what seems a world-class front three in Son, Kane and Bale.

*Ndombele could come in for Lamela if he gets fit and looks like he can press defensively, because going forward he’s excellent.
 

PLTuck

Eternal Optimist
Aug 22, 2006
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To me with the Sonny interview interruption, we know that Jose gets into players heads, likes to keep them on their toes, and likes to foster competitiveness within the squad.

To me he does this stuff to try and keep players hungry and motivated.
 

Ron Burgundy

SC Supporter
Jun 19, 2008
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Don't believe in his system at all, but I do believe in the individual brilliance of our players - especially now the squad is fresh again. Mourinho needs to play to our strengths.

Agree with this, but what's he there for FFS?

We were awful for a long time vs. Southampton - a better team would have put us out of sight

We can't rely on the brilliance of our players. We need to be better than the sum of our parts, and that's down to the manager.

I know we won well on the weekend, I've yet to see evidence of the brilliant manager his reputation would suggest.
 

Locotoro

Prince of Zamunda
Sep 2, 2004
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Southampton have six shots on goal.
Spurs none.

It’s not over but lmao ... we have a more talented squad and are being outplayed.
This half time post didn't age well... (y) (I joke)

You and others have commented about JM only being able to set up a team of warriors and relying on moments of brilliance to get goals - I have to disagree completely.

Anyone trying to understand what JM is trying to create need only look at Bayern and their current set up (who no one would call turgid), they use fast players, they transfer the ball forward fast and mostly direct, they press opportunistically. JM wants us to move the ball forward quickly into attacking positions where the defence does not have an opportunity to settle. The big problem we faced under Poch was that we built up slow and from the back into a slow squeeze of the opponent. That often means a well drilled defence can gladly sit deep and swat away the passes and crosses relatively easily and then you really do need a moment of magic to score.

Under JM he's creating a situation where the percentages are more in our favour, we move the ball faster and create a 2 v 2 or 3v4 rather than a 5v8 or 6v9 in favour of the defence. The fewer bodies they have back the better the chance we can create and that maximising our opportunity to score. He's not just creating a team that battles and telling them to run around a facking bit. It's specifically trained movements that get key players into key spaces.
He did this at Real with Cristiano, Benzema would take a position in the left or drift out left and take the marker with him where Cristiano would move in the opposite direction and pick up a through pass from ozil or Alonso. They did that move so many times and Cristiano created so many chances not because of his magic (though undoubted) but because the system put him in that position to do so.
 
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Stamford

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Sep 15, 2015
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To me with the Sonny interview interruption, we know that Jose gets into players heads, likes to keep them on their toes, and likes to foster competitiveness within the squad.

To me he does this stuff to try and keep players hungry and motivated.

I think it was just a real bad dad joke
 

Havre

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Aug 8, 2019
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I think the problem is our tactics change every game and are reactive. Right now whoever is in midfield seems slightly confused and primarily focussed on where they need to be when we don’t have the ball. Yesterday the plan appears to have been to play the ball in behind their FBs as quickly / directly as possible and led to our defenders totally bypassing midfield (aka Dier hoofing it out of play). It’s only when Kane re-interpreted the instructions and dropped between the lines to link play and be the creator that things clicked. This was helped by having Lamela and Lo Celso being more aggressive higher up the pitch than Ndombele and Moura had been.

But ultimately, the tactics are specific to opponents and reactive. And some players are being inhibited by them.

On the last point I think most agree there is a balance to be struck. I tend to agree that we might be leaning too much in one direction at the moment, where we care too much about the opponent, but I am confident that will gradually change as we get used to being more tactically aware. Now it seems like we are thinking too much about positioning etc. instead of that coming naturally. It takes practice.

As for the Southampton game I don't think you can disregard the flow of the game. Classic away game tactics is to kick it long behind to try to move the defense back a yard or two (the defense might not even notice it themselves, but you do tend to get deeper if you are afraid of the ball behind). That again gives Kane that space in front that he then utilized. I don't think that was Kane re-interpreting anything - I think that was the plan all along.
 

spids

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Jul 19, 2015
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Mourinho Nov 2019: "“The best gift are the players who are here. I don’t need new players. I just need to get to know these ones better."
Summer window 2020 Spurs sign half a new team.
 

Rout-Ledge

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Jul 29, 2005
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Mourinho Nov 2019: "“The best gift are the players who are here. I don’t need new players. I just need to get to know these ones better."
Summer window 2020 Spurs sign half a new team.

He got to know them better...and didn't like what he saw.
 
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