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Jose Mourinho

How do you feel about Mourinho appointment

  • Excited - silverware here we come baby

    Votes: 666 46.7%
  • Meh - will give him a chance and hope he is successful

    Votes: 468 32.8%
  • Horrified - praying for the day he'll fuck off

    Votes: 292 20.5%

  • Total voters
    1,426

fishhhandaricecake

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Nov 15, 2018
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I don’t think it is how many games as he had in whole now?

Not once have we looked like we can actually dominate a game instead we ride our luck and rely on individual brilliance which isn’t there anymore.

Tottenham’s DNA is not to sit back and absorb pressure unfortunately as much as we need that to change it never will it’s always been style over substance here and that’s makes our team so great we at Tottenham even in failure have an echo of glory and at the moment I’m struggling to stay awake to watch us!!
Yea all very fair and true points mate :( lets hope we sign some more players to paper over the cracks in this awful style of football.
 

shelfboy68

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Jun 14, 2008
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Minus the short turnaround with our fixtures, it’s a pretty favorable schedule until November 21 which starts a run where we play City, Chelsea, and Arsenal in a row.

Really have to take advantage of that softer run to build up form but also bank points.


I can see both Southampton and Newcastle getting something against us with Wilson obviously scoring, leaving us with utd who will beat us and end Jose's time with us classic spurs.
 

isaac94

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Jan 5, 2017
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I don't think Ancelotti has ever been rated in the same way. He's always been classed as an excellent manager but never the best manager at any point unlike Ferguson, Mourinho, Guardiola and now Klopp.
Duno his only the third manager to ever when the champions league 3 times, something the others haven't done. To me, Ancelotti achievements are vastly overlooked at times, but also probably not in that top bracket because of domestic results
 

emiley heskey

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Jul 3, 2020
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The main mistake jose so far did was not upgrading one of lamela, dele or lucas .. surely you can't be happy with these three attackers ... Atleast sell one of them and bring someone like fraser or willian both of them were free ....

This us jose's mistake that he failed to understand the attackers at his disposal ....
 

emiley heskey

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Jul 3, 2020
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And what good, pray tell, would a "1" year loan do?
I mean you are advocating a deal for "1" year.

If not for long term, 1 year loan can certainly help us navigating this corona period and if both coutinho and bale hit the ground, we can be in top 4 easily ... One don't need to be rocket scientist to understand this
 

Shanks

Kinda not anymore....
May 11, 2005
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What stood out for me was N’Dombelly standing around not chasing anything despite only just coming on and worse not looking as though he wanted the ball at all when it was passed to him
He just looked up played a simple pass to get rid of it without even trying to create something
Also he looked totally out of shape

Get rid asap
Not sure I agree, I wat he’d him closely and whilst his passing was suspect, I thought he showed more energy yesterday than I’ve seen from him before - lost the ball but chased down etc
 

Cochise

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Aug 8, 2019
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I think he'd like to upgrade on Dele, Lucas and Lamela but knows that unless we can get them or some others out the door he cannot. We seriously need to shift at least 6 squad players (Rose, Foyth, CCV, Sissoko, Lamela and Moura) imo in order to get on with things.
 

Grapo2001

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Jul 26, 2011
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The main mistake jose so far did was not upgrading one of lamela, dele or lucas .. surely you can't be happy with these three attackers ... Atleast sell one of them and bring someone like fraser or willian both of them were free ....

This us jose's mistake that he failed to understand the attackers at his disposal ....

Staggering comment. You do realise it isn't Jose who signs players? I'm sure every manager wants superstars in every position, but we all know that we won't spend what it takes - that's not the managers fault.
 

Johnny J

Not the Kiwi you need but the one you deserve
Aug 18, 2012
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It's easy to dig out particular players but I'm absolutely at a loss to explain how our team look like strangers to each other, with seeming no plan other than a low block and hope for an individual moment of magic.

If there is a plan then it's either shit or not being executed properly. If we are going to sit deep then we need to break quickly and in numbers, but we aren't doing that.

The performance against Everton, again speaking collectively, was mostly clueless, particularly in the second half. In the first we had a couple of chances but I couldn't believe what I was seeing in the second.

We couldn't pass the ball, there was zero movement, zero energy, it was atrocious.

The problems with the squad have been well-documented and Levy has a lot to answer for but Mourinho isn't even getting the bare minimum out of these players.

Ancelloti has been at Everton for less time but you can see what they're trying to do, you can see their style and they're improving. Their central midfield against us was completely new yet they bosses us and passed it around like they'd been playing together for months. Yes they lacked a cutting edge but at least they were building attacks, something that we seem to have little idea how to do.

I'm obviously not in the know but I think Levy hoped the squad was good enough and Mourinho would get them into shape. Turns out the squad isn't good enough and Mourinho isn't getting anywhere near the best out of them.

I refuse to believe that another manager couldn't get us playing better than this after almost a year of working on tactics and training.

Yes, Mourinho is one of the greats and I'm not saying we should sack him, but the signs aren't good.

If we don't sort out our midfield and link between them and our attack, it won't matter who we have up front.

I honestly expect us to sign a target man and watch Toby lump balls to him.
 

wirE

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Sep 27, 2005
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Winks, Moura, Sissoko, Dier, Davies are players who seemingly seems to be a part of Mourinho's plans. Going back to the Poch era, a few of them featured on a regular basis.
 

ILS

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Jun 21, 2008
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The main mistake jose so far did was not upgrading one of lamela, dele or lucas .. surely you can't be happy with these three attackers ... Atleast sell one of them and bring someone like fraser or willian both of them were free ....

This us jose's mistake that he failed to understand the attackers at his disposal ....
I agree with the sentiment about replacing one of the three but stop with the Ryan Fraser shouts. The bloke is bang average and will struggle to get in the Newcastle team come the end of the season.
 

Alex4487

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Jul 21, 2011
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Winks, Moura, Sissoko, Dier, Davies are players who seemingly seems to be a part of Mourinho's plans. Going back to the Poch era, a few of them featured on a regular basis.
because these players hang on his every word thats why favouritism is clogging up mourinho's brain these players are midtable fodder at best yet they start every week for a so called top 6 team
 

@Bobby__Lucky

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Aug 20, 2013
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I think what people have to realise is that the team was like this before he came. The mentality was like this before he came. We were stale as fuck before he came. The biggest factor to mourinho being a success is turning around decades of mentality that the players are carrying. By this I mean we are not winners.. As a club also we are not winners. This sits on top of the players mentality as there is no continueum of success to pull the players through their deficiencies.

It's all well and good saying Kanes a winner this and that. He's not, he has won nothing. Same as most of our players. Won nothing.

The mind is not made to react and produce success. Far from it. The mind and brains objective is to keep us safe. It takes a special mentality to be a winner, and as such winners are in high demand. We have to consider much of what we see is self sabotaging actions from the players. They may consciously want success but unless it is present in the sub conscious and holistic this is highly possible. Roy Keane touched on this once at the all conquering United team of the 90's who were serial winners and he mentioned that he looked around and some of the players were shitting themselves. Success is more to do with the mind than anything. Jose has his work cut out as Poch never looked like he had that winners mentality and its highly likely the players will resist Jose because he is such a winner.
 

Duffman

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Aug 5, 2008
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Been watching the Doc and from what I’ve seen, all the tactical analysis that Jose does seems to be very similar to what we all see and say during games on here. However this doesn’t seem to ever to translate onto the pitch. The half time team talks etc do the same, just never seem to get the reaction required from the players.
 

JayB

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Aug 24, 2011
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Thanks for posting these (and the other gifs in the post above). Given how absolutely fucking awful the second half was, it's easy to forget how dangerous we looked in the first half. Once the players are fully fit and match sharp I have little doubt that if we're able to carve out chances like that on the counter on a regular basis we will score plenty of goals.

Kane and Doherty, two key players in a number of the clips posted, had zero preseason whatsoever prior to going away on international duty and returning to the club days before the start of the season. Ndombele and Lo Celso, the only two creative CMs in the squad, had their preseasons taken away from them due to Covid and a muscle injury, respectively. Once those players are fully up to speed those opportunities where the final ball was left just a bit short, or the finishing touch not applied, will start to come off.

Mourinho got it completely wrong at half time with his reactionary hooking of Dele for the woeful Sissoko. He absolutely fucked it, there's no getting around that, and he deserves the criticism that he's gotten. But one massive mistake from the manager which turned one game on its head isn't a death knell for our season overall. Jose has a brilliant track record of making in-game tactical adjustments which benefit his side, he just happened to get it wrong this time. We go again.
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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Nov 25, 2012
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Remember when we lost to Newcastle on the opening game back in the AVB years I think. We just shrugged and accepted it as irritating but normal for a Europa level team in which wages dictate that we'll end up between 7th and 5th most seasons.

Reminded me of that yesterday.

We're nothing special now, just reverting to type. Accepting that is key.

Only by lucking out with a new Poch era will we hit those heights again. Certainly not through on pitch investment because we ain't and we'll never be that kind of club.
We have money, but if your recruitment isn't top notch you will struggle to compete.

I date it back to Wanyama's injury. We've been poor in the transfer market since then.
 
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