Jose Mourinho

[srups34]

“He’s specialll you knowww...”

He's certainly is. I would love him to do well here.

 

[rossdapep]

One thing that we were told by ITK was that Jose wanted technical/tactical players.

I think today you could see exactly why its pivotal to the way his team plays and also highlights why we struggled once the press wore off.

Poch wanted fighters, players who could be aggressive and push the opposition back, winning the ball back immediately. We struggled against tighter defences although Eriksen's vision usually helped in this regard. Once the players became less intense they struggled with many aspects such as moving the ball between the lines quickly, working angles in and around the area. We eventually became a team who could get the ball up the pitch but didn't have the technical ability to cut open teams anymore.

We were also blesses to have two tenacious and rapid full backs whose ability to get around the back caused defences panic.

Now look at our full backs. I was watching Liverpool and whilst they struggled today, both Robertson and TAA have the technical/tactical ability to not only go on the outside but play in the half space with confidence and make underlaps. They are not afraid to run at the centre of defence and chip balls over. Serge can only go around the outside (and struggles with that) whereas Davies is unable to do either.

Another example of the benefits of having technical/tactical players.

Then of course our CM is an area of concern. Winks and Sissoko are massively lacking in technical and tactical ability. In Jose's system you need one to break up play and both to be able to have the sense to move the ball within seconds, but not just that they need to know where to play it without looking. Sissoko needs 2-3 touches then he needs to look up, he can't play through balls and he can't play passes like Shelvey, for example. Winks too often moves it sideways, and his forward passing isn't great either. It just highlights why we regressed so much under Poch and why we could no longer play the way he wanted.

Too many players who blossomed as intense high pressing players but struggled when tasked with moving the ball and making space.

So when you see our attacking play and how slow it is. you can see how important and how much of a difference a couple of technical players would make.

Hopefully we can get Hojberg and another AM. I reckon we'll see much more efficiency with the ball.

 

[sausage]

Agree.
Poch was a bit soft and didn’t get the media right, I can already feel Jose is slowly building a seige mentality again, enjoy the ride pps.

Poch was naive. He didn't go full Tim Sherwood, with the "us/we" is the media, "them" is the team, but definitely naive.

I think Poch started to feel like a media darling, but he walked right into a trap. Balague convinced him to give up his psychological secrets under a facade of memoirs, and it blew the team apart. At the end of the day, they aren't your friends - they will sell the flesh off your back if they need to.

Jose's got it right - use them before they use you, and if you do it right - even if they salivate wildy at the chance to target everything you do - they will always want more, and so you can easily still be a pundit.

 

[rossdapep]

Poch was naive. He didn't go full Tim Sherwood, with the "us/we" is the media, "them" is the team, but definitely naive.

I think Poch started to feel like a media darling, but he walked right into a trap. Balague convinced him to give up his psychological secrets under a facade of memoirs, and it blew the team apart. At the end of the day, they aren't your friends - they will sell the flesh off your back if the need to.

Jose's got it right - use them before they use you, and if you do it right - even if they salivate wildy at the chance to target everything you do - they will always want more, and so you can easily still be a pundit.

I hope Poch learnt a lesson about the book. Don't get me wrong it was interesting but it was completely unnecessary and a little bit arrogant as it looked like he felt he was sitting in a position of greatness. He was mightily close but I think he was a little stubborn at times and that may have denied him his deserving moment of success.

I hope when he comes back he learns from some mistakes.

 

[arunspurs]

At present, in most games, our players are static or players getting attracted to the ball rather than making runs of the ball opening space.Dele - if he can get back his fitness and start running again freely , he will be great asset in a Mourinho side.
Of late, mistake Dele is making is, he is running towards the ball, trying passing game. Dele Alli is not a passer , he is a runner. His runs is what opens spaces for Harry & Sonny.

If he comes back, I hope Jose works with him and gets his game going. Moment, Dele starts contributing, style of play will improve.

 

[DJS]

Poch was naive. He didn't go full Tim Sherwood, with the "us/we" is the media, "them" is the team, but definitely naive.

I think Poch started to feel like a media darling, but he walked right into a trap. Balague convinced him to give up his psychological secrets under a facade of memoirs, and it blew the team apart. At the end of the day, they aren't your friends - they will sell the flesh off your back if they need to.

Jose's got it right - use them before they use you, and if you do it right - even if they salivate wildy at the chance to target everything you do - they will always want more, and so you can easily still be a pundit.

I hope Poch learnt a lesson about the book. Don't get me wrong it was interesting but it was completely unnecessary and a little bit arrogant as it looked like he felt he was sitting in a position of greatness. He was mightily close but I think he was a little stubborn at times and that may have denied him his deserving moment of success.

I hope when he comes back he learns from some mistakes.

Yep the book concerned me at the time and sure enough we started dipping.

It is NEVER a good idea for a football manager to spill their guts out in a boom whilst still in the job.

Save it for your retirement when it doesn’t matter who you piss off then.

 

[LeParisien]

Off topic, but I do wonder how the whole gender-fluidity thing works in latin languages. The potential to be offended is exponential.

Yes it’s a mine field and hotly disputed. In English dictionaries eventually just decide to include or exclude words and that is that. In French (at least as spoken in France) the Académie Française has to pronounce for a change to be formalized. It decided that changing some words to be gender neutral was not possible because things have to agree and it is more trouble than it’s worth. But professions can be made feminine where there has traditionally only been a masculine form.

This will rumble on for all of my lifetime as an inherently conservative body will gradually recognize linguistic features seen as perjoratively gendered. Gendered words will never disappear though and neither should they.

 

[sausage]

I hope Poch learnt a lesson about the book. Don't get me wrong it was interesting but it was completely unnecessary and a little bit arrogant as it looked like he felt he was sitting in a position of greatness. He was mightily close but I think he was a little stubborn at times and that may have denied him his deserving moment of success.

I hope when he comes back he learns from some mistakes.

I'm grateful for the book as I bought it a day or so before I ended up in hospital for a while. A good distraction and interesting book, but never understood just how no one put a hand on his shoulder and said "do you want to do another edit before this is published?". The history was good, but it went in the wrong direction with the present.
I mean, he wrote an entire book with every possible permutation of what the word 'brave' meant, and all it did was give people some ambiguity to make excuses for him. I'd be interested in reading another of his books, but only in the same way that people like gossip and what not. Like a guilty pleasure.

 

[stevespurs]

The team has a definitive change of style now. Regardless who our manager is atm, we are playing with pretty much the same set of players, but not conceding anywhere near as much.

I’m getting closer to feeling confident with our defence. Even post-iso Hugo is looking a different fella. I thought we’d miss Dier more, but we’ve coped well.

I sense some momentum. We have watched two years of relatively poor football, compared with our heady heights of 2016/17. So performances are not as high on the agenda, as results to me. The defensive performances in our last 7 games have been so improved....I’m almost excited.

JM is having a good influence, the players have bought in, the Hugo/Son handbags moment might point to that too.

I wrote off this season well before the break and couldn’t wait for it to be over. I definitely did not want it to resume. But I’m beginning to feel some pride again ....COYS

 

[jay2040]

Our performances may not have been great but you can’t complain about our record since the lockdown:

Played - 7
Won - 4
Drew - 2
Lost - 1

We’ve achieved this despite rarely getting out of 1st gear. Imagine how good we will be with reinforcements at full back and a new decent central midfielder.

Mourinho’s tactics may not be pretty but they’re effective. Add a few new players and we’ll back up there pushing for a top 4 finish and competing in the domestic trophies.

Win in NLD counts for extra bonus points!

 

[LeParisien]

Jose Mourinho has asked why other managers are not questioned on team selection

Tottenham were 3-1 winners against Newcastle in the Premier League - the first time Jose Mourinho has won at St James Park

www.skysports.com

Lol he’s getting even more verbal slap downs in! ??

Great to see Lo Celso at the heart of the celebrations

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Poch was naive. He didn't go full Tim Sherwood, with the "us/we" is the media, "them" is the team, but definitely naive.

I think Poch started to feel like a media darling, but he walked right into a trap. Balague convinced him to give up his psychological secrets under a facade of memoirs, and it blew the team apart. At the end of the day, they aren't your friends - they will sell the flesh off your back if they need to.

Jose's got it right - use them before they use you, and if you do it right - even if they salivate wildy at the chance to target everything you do - they will always want more, and so you can easily still be a pundit.

Also small things I’m noticing with Jose like how when asked in the PM presser what does Bergwiegn have to do to start a match he says “nothing he is a team player all our players are team players whether they start or help the team for 30 minutes or 5 minutes, we don’t just need 11 good players we don’t just need 15, we need more, big clubs have many good players”.

He said he’s happy and trusts bergwiegn lamela Lucas and sonny, it must be nice when you hear that as a player.

To me I find it strange people say Jose loses dressing rooms or has poor man management, I’d argue the opposite that that’s absolouelty been one of his strengths in getting the most out of each player and most importantly creating a very strong team bond and ethic, apart from the odd spat with ronaldo or pogba or the Chelsea physio who all the players fancied. He built strong dressing rooms and mentality at Porto, at inter, at Chelsea twice, he did it at Real even if people say he feel out with ronaldo ronaldo still to this day says he rates Jose right at the top.


More recently towards the end of his 2nd spell at Chelsea and end of his man.u spell things got a bit messy but you could argue that was partly to do with the behind the scenes goings on and way that both of those clubs were treating him, also he’s human and I think after the pressure of Real Madrid he just became a bit burnout.

It looks like the break in between man.u and spurs has really refreshed and galvanised him and the way the team is slowly starting to play (it’ll take time and some signings) and the way he’s starting to act to the media now he’s getting results I have to say it’s quite exciting and I don’t know if it’s just me but I do feel like all of his actions are absoloutley about building this seige mentality which is what you need if you want to win things.

His inter players were crying when he left, terry lampard drogba and many others at Chelsea would’ve walked on hot coals for Jose And just the way he’s managing the squads minutes and comments he’s making about the players in the media I do feel it’s all about building confidence, he’s honest enough players know where they stay and they know what is expected and required of them.

COYS

 

[DJS]

Great to see Lo Celso at the heart of the celebrations

Yeah noticed Kane had his arm round him.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Yes it’s a mine field and hotly disputed. In English dictionaries eventually just decide to include or exclude words and that is that. In French (at least as spoken in France) the Académie Française has to pronounce for a change to be formalized. It decided that changing some words to be gender neutral was not possible because things have to agree and it is more trouble than it’s worth. But professions can be made feminine where there has traditionally only been a masculine form.

This will rumble on for all of my lifetime as an inherently conservative body will gradually recognize linguistic features seen as perjoratively gendered. Gendered words will never disappear though and neither should they.

I’m partly Italian and trust me that language is a nightmare for genders haha! There are rules within rules.

 

[TheRevolution]

He is a funny guy

Excellent, I want Arrogant Mourinho, who's not afraid to take a shot at other managers. When he slagged Wenger at Chelsea there was a confidence to him that rubbed off on the games like the 6-0, he was the chilled guy on the pitch despite the pre match antics.

At United his spats with Conte were petty. Let's hope this arrogance spreads to the players and fans. I want other clubs to absolutely despise us.

 

[LeParisien]

One thing that we were told by ITK was that Jose wanted technical/tactical players.

I think today you could see exactly why its pivotal to the way his team plays and also highlights why we struggled once the press wore off.

Poch wanted fighters, players who could be aggressive and push the opposition back, winning the ball back immediately.

Ndombélé is technical and doesn’t get anywhere near the team. The problem is that he’s not aggressive enough. So it’s hard to square that with your view...

 

[emiley heskey]

Ndombélé is technical and doesn’t get anywhere near the team. The problem is that he’s not aggressive enough. So it’s hard to square that with your view...

Ndombele is not tactical player

 

[LeParisien]

Ndombele is not tactical player

What is a tactical player ? A player that fits a system ?

Anyway he is a technical player which is what I was responding to.

 

[jay2040]

Impressed with Lucas over last few games and am putting that down to Jose.

 

[Cochise]

N'Dombele just isn't rounded enough (please avoid the obvious jokes) to fit any of the roles at this time. Tactics can be learned, unless the player really has the IQ of a turnip. I'm convinced that N'Dombele can find a space in this team to fully develop, but I think it will take a couple of summer signings and a bit of commitment from him to happen.

Back on topic. I think a lot needs to be made of how well Mourinho has coped with the shadow of the ex. We all loved Poch, but there are some on the internet who are so blinded by that love that they cannot accept he is gone. This has seen a certain level of resitance to Jose that he cannot do anything about, despite there being some on here that would slap him around the face and cry "you're not my real Dad".

I'm all for giving him the time to make this his club and when the time comes for him to leave I'll treat the next manager with the same respect.