Jose Mourinho

[ItsBoris]

Looool everyone uses the same trash arguments all the time. Since the end of 2015 he’s been schooled by Conte and Pep despite spending 419(!)M. His job as a United manager was to win the league and he failed. End of story, clown

As I see it he inherited a pretty broken team from Van Gaal and Moyes and built it into something pretty decent in 2017-18. Pep's Man City team was probably the best team in the league's history, so to not beat that after two seasons is nothing to be ashamed of as I see it.

 

[freeeki]

You can’t even counter argument me hahahaha what a clown

Countering your argument would be like trying to counter a toddler - no matter how technically correct I was, I'd still look like a fucking bell end for engaging

 

[SpursD22]

Countering your argument would be like trying to counter a toddler - no matter how technically correct I was, I'd still look like a fucking bell end for engaging

Nah it’s because you can’t, you know I would win the argument

 

[ackie]

The man has no understanding of football just lucked out in his career. He is only about team shape and organisation. He does not care about the game. It is all about his own ego. The talk about not being born a Spurs fan just creeped me out.

Boy, I wish his luck doesn't run out and he wins us a trophy... I mean he has to be the luckiest man in football ever... Luck in Portugal, England, Spain and Italy... Trophies galore.
He has won more trophies than our club in the last 10 years... I want some of that luck

 

[rossdapep]

The problem with Jose is that he is such a big name, has a big personality and has been around for along time, most people have their opinion made of him already. Since he has started at Spurs, all I hear is "he is going to tear down the clubhouse" "enjoy boring football" and not even Spurs fans are giving him a chance. That's the worst part.

Biggest manager this club has ever had in terms of winning things and fans act like he's not good enough.

Give him time. Forget his past and act like he is a new manager that needs new players and time to put in his tactics. Today was only a glimpse of what he can turn this team into once he has his players. The football might seem boring at times but will also be exciting. Especially when we are winning trophies.

No matter what anyone wants to say about "I'd rather be excited than win" bullshit. You will be partying in the streets like all of us if Jose leads us to a major trophy.

I actually really enjoyed the first half and last 15 mins.

You're right, we have to accept this but if he gets the right players I think we can be quite devastating on the counter. And that'll be enjoyable.

Imagine going into every game confident that you only need one or two chances to win.

 

[wrd]

There's a few things which I enjoyed about the 4-4-2 and some possibilities;

Kane had less off a work load with his pressing and dragging defenders and was also able to get more space which was great. I wonder if there's a possibility of Dele playing up there now and then also who Kane has a significantly better synergy with in terms of link up play.

Moura was much better on the wing, he wasn't getting in the way of Kane and taking up the same spaces and he helped defensively and played some great passes. He also benefited from cutting inside. Also opens up the possibility of introducing Sessegnon down the line which is great.

Sissoko was in a position where he was able to tuck in without being core to our central solidity and I think the CB's were grateful for that, was really played to his strengths today. Which is useful in certain situations; Against lesser teams maybe we can introduce an additional attacking player as part of a 4.

Aurier wasn't our main creative outlet which was great news and you can see how he can easily be replaced by the likes of Tanganga in a set up like this.

I still think 4-3-3 long term is the way to go when we're able to sign a defensive midfielder and a competent right back but it was great to see another option and one which might benefit a few players.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

We just beat Arsenal in a game where Mourinho’s defensive tactics paid dividends, against an Arsenal side in good form and with two days more rest than us and people are still moaning. At least enjoy the moment and try and imagine that it’s a sign of progress

 

[fortworthspur]

The man has no understanding of football just lucked out in his career. He is only about team shape and organisation. He does not care about the game. It is all about his own ego. The talk about not being born a Spurs fan just creeped me out.

im not a mourinho fanboy and will be glad when he leaves, but "The man has no understanding of football just lucked out in his career." really?

 

[wrd]

We just beat Arsenal in a game where Mourinho’s defensive tactics paid dividends, against an Arsenal side in good form and with two days more rest than us and people are still moaning. At least enjoy the moment and try and imagine that it’s a sign of progress

I don't understand how people couldn't enjoy that; first of all relative to our recent displays it was the most goal mouth action we have seen since lockdown, secondly that was the most defensively solid we have been in about 2 seasons even still accounting for Aurier's individual error.

What's more there was no shitty referee or VAR decisions, no excuses for our rivals we beat them clean as you like.

 

[rossdapep]

As I see it he inherited a pretty broken team from Van Gaal and Moyes and built it into something pretty decent in 2017-18. Pep's Man City team was probably the best team in the league's history, so to not beat that after two seasons is nothing to be ashamed of as I see it.

He was left with the dredge from Fergie's last year - Smalling, Jones, an ageing Valencia, Young and Rooney

Moyes' failed signing - Fellaini

Van Gaal's busted signings - Schweinstieger, Schneiderlin, Depay, Rojo and Darmian

and was asked to transform it immediately yet was told some players can't be sold and had to accept certain buys United wanted to make to appease to the shareholders (Pogba, Mkhytaryan, etc).

The whole process was a mess and it's hard to judge him fairly, just like it is with Poch after the 2017-18 window period.

It's more likely it went wrong because you have people pulling In all different directions than because he is a busted flush.

OGS took the job with zero expectation, he went in with no pressure and because he had a good start and is a united man, he was asked what the club needs to which he believed was youth. He understood the club and what it means to be United, Jose understands what it means to be a winner but didn't buy into the 'United way'. It's why OGS is being 100% backed with his players, and still Woodward nearly stuffed it up by allowing the Maguire transfer to drag.

I fully believe that if Jose is given the players he needs and him and Levy stay on the same page with this we will bear the fruits from it.

 

[ItsBoris]

The man has no understanding of football just lucked out in his career. He is only about team shape and organisation. He does not care about the game. It is all about his own ego. The talk about not being born a Spurs fan just creeped me out.

Nah it’s because you can’t, you know I would win the argument

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

The man has no understanding of football just lucked out in his career. He is only about team shape and organisation. He does not care about the game. It is all about his own ego. The talk about not being born a Spurs fan just creeped me out.

This has to be one of the most ridiculous posts i've ever seen on here. I hope you're joking.
Look I'm not a fan of his style of play at all but it can work and I'd never say he has no understanding of football or just lucked out haha are you actually serious? He's one of the most decorated football managers of all time, trust me he certainly knows a thing or two.

 

[wrd]

Also I think it's worth clarifying something with all the talk over performance/excitement vs trophies/success;

I'll say right now, if we played like we did vs Everton consistently and won trophies I wouldn't be happy because I want to enjoy my football and let me be clear, those performances now and then you need them you have a bad day but you get 3 points, that's great but consistently as a football fan I just wouldn't be happy.

If we played like we did today, taking into account the players legs were heavy from Thursday and you would assume we will start to click more attacking wise and be more clinical; I'd be pretty happy with that style of play leading to success because it was frankly enjoyable to watch. As I say we had periods where we didn't have the ball but when we did; we created some great chances and you would expect that aspect to improve as time goes on with the correct personnel.

 

[SpursD22]

The man has no understanding of football just lucked out in his career. He is only about team shape and organisation. He does not care about the game. It is all about his own ego. The talk about not being born a Spurs fan just creeped me out.

At least I’m not like this guy, right guys

 

[ralvy]

We just beat Arsenal in a game where Mourinho’s defensive tactics paid dividends, against an Arsenal side in good form and with two days more rest than us and people are still moaning. At least enjoy the moment and try and imagine that it’s a sign of progress

You just don't get it, do you? It's precisely because we won that some people here aren't enjoying themselves right now.

 

[Wick3d]

Funny how one result can lift the mood of a club.

 

[Ionman34]

I'm not even in the anti Jose brigade but if that was tactically spot on then it's clearly worked. Worked... by which I mean making us that shit ..an okay performance brings in comments like that.

I just watched two teams who had two managers brought midway in the season. One team has a clear pattern of play and the other team swaps their tactics every game as we haven't a got a clue what we are actually good at. He is making us defensively solid ...not hard when the team sits so deep.. interesting how you can continue with that tactic when playing on the front foot??

Yes we have beaten them but it in my opinion if we fast forward 12 months time, I have a feeling whose team is going to be a hell of a lot better then the other and it's not the one we follow.

The only stat they beat us on was possession. We had more shots, more shots on target and a better Xg, meaning that the chances created were of better quality. In fact Xg was better than 3x theirs.

Far from defensive and boring, more like structured, strong, disciplined and tactically astute.

Not bad for a team who struggled to string 2 passes together 3 days ago.

Onto the next game where, hopefully, we'll see further progression.

 

[SpartanSpur]

They've been few and far between so far, but that was a big win for Jose today.

I was convinced based on the form of both sides going into this and the 48 hour disadvantage that we'd take a hiding today but it was far from it.

The team lineup worried me but he changed things up significantly. It was a real 4-4-2 and I felt right from the start that it was comparing favourably to Arsenal's formation (which they've been doing well in). Lucas and Sissoko did a fantastic team role out wide, which had the added bonus of them not clogging up the middle. Winks and Lo Celso meant a CM2 more comfortable on the ball and also Kane and Son seemed to have more space to work in. Whilst the game could have gone either way I think Mourinho won the tactical battle today just to have us competitive.

Big shout out to all of the lads for coming in with excellent effort and application today. It's too late for CL but hopefully they can take confidence with this and put on a better show for us in the last 3 games. Finish strong and hopefully there can be a little bit of hope over the summer.

We're still at the stage where there's more questions than answers about Jose being the right man to take us forward, but he did us proud today.

 

[spursfan77]

But at what cost?
I thought that when we brought him in but to me watching us play like we did against Bournemouth etc for the majority of our games is just not enjoyable, sitting through 40 or so of those performances for one League Cup, I'm not bothered tbh the joy of winning a small trophy compared to the boredom of watching us play like this week in week out isn't worth it in my opinion.

If we can play more like today more regularly then fine but we all know Jose's DNA is to use a low-mid block etc.
Under Redknapp and Poch at times we played some simply breathtaking electric football, sure we missed that pragmatism at times but there were so many matches which were so enjoyable, we've now gone to the completely opposite approach, its not Spurs and its boring.

you’re right. Spurs is letting us fans down at every fucking moment. I’m sick and tired of it. Maybe it’s time to try another way?

 

[wrd]

Funny how one result can lift the mood of a club.

Exactly; Close the season out by not doing anything too stupid in the remaining games, head into the summer in a slightly more optimistic mood than recent weeks; hopefully Jose gets backed with at least a few signings namely RB, DM, CB and a back up for Kane and then we can actually judge whether Jose is going to be a success or not working under how we operate at spurs.