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Jose Mourinho

How do you feel about Mourinho appointment

  • Excited - silverware here we come baby

    Votes: 666 46.7%
  • Meh - will give him a chance and hope he is successful

    Votes: 468 32.8%
  • Horrified - praying for the day he'll fuck off

    Votes: 292 20.5%

  • Total voters
    1,426

HildoSpur

Likes Erik Lamela, deal with it.
Oct 1, 2005
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To see some 'fans' of our club apparently unwilling to celebrate a win against a team in good form is very disappointing. Get over yourselves.
 

spursfan77

Well-Known Member
Aug 13, 2005
46,680
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Sessegnon has nothing to do with Poch. We wanted him on the advice of Levy’s special advisor David Pleat. The fact is Poch almost walked last summer because Levy’s antics in the transfer window. We were never signing Dybala and we spent forever negotiating for his prime target Lo Celso. The other player Poch wanted on the advise of Bisela was Calvin Phillips, but that was a no go because Levy was more concerned about Jack Clarke who was also on the advise of his special advisor.

Levy fast and loose antics in the transfer windows have left us with an unbalanced squad. The fact he listens to David Pleat as a special advisor is baffling.



Tottenham fullback Ryan Sessegnon says he'll always be grateful to former manager Mauricio Pochettino for bringing him to the club.
Pochettino signed Sessegnon from Fulham last summer before his dismissal last month.
Sessegnon said: “For me, he was a big part of me coming to the club.
“I knew they had been watching me for a while and to finally get the opportunity to come to the club, play under him was a dream come true.
“Then of course for him to go suddenly after not working with him at all was disappointing because, like I say, he was one of the reasons I came to the club."
 

SamR

Well-Known Member
Jan 31, 2006
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To settle for 1 goal and shut up shop in the last 15 mins, is always a dangerous game to play, very few teams are capable of doing it. We got away with it because Everton showed no real aggression and played half arsed as though the couldn't care less.

We are nowhere near good enough to score 1 and shut out 99% of teams, especially teams who are determined. It only takes one ball into the box, or over the top, one lapse in concentration and bang that's a goal conceded and points dropped. We simply cannot afford to play this way because you only have to open your eyes to see we have always got a mistake or few in us, and we get off the hook when opposition teams waste good chances.

I don't think I've ever seen us shutting out a team completely without giving away a good chance or half chance, so JM should stop coaching us into doing this, quite simply because we are incapable of it. If we don't score more than one, more often than not we come away without 3 points, and anyone who can't see that is just plain stupid.

So your suggestion is we continue to go out all attack and hope for another goal? Our forwards have hardly been setting the world alight since the return and that would have left us even more under pressure.

I get your point, but it's a game by game decision and against whom and yesterday it made sense to shut up shop. We need to learn to do that at some point, so i don't see the problem of installing that mentality now when our season is pretty much over.
 

Amo

Well-Known Member
Aug 22, 2013
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To settle for 1 goal and shut up shop in the last 15 mins, is always a dangerous game to play, very few teams are capable of doing it. We got away with it because Everton showed no real aggression and played half arsed as though the couldn't care less.

We are nowhere near good enough to score 1 and shut out 99% of teams, especially teams who are determined. It only takes one ball into the box, or over the top, one lapse in concentration and bang that's a goal conceded and points dropped. We simply cannot afford to play this way because you only have to open your eyes to see we have always got a mistake or few in us, and we get off the hook when opposition teams waste good chances.

I don't think I've ever seen us shutting out a team completely without giving away a good chance or half chance, so JM should stop coaching us into doing this, quite simply because we are incapable of it. If we don't score more than one, more often than not we come away without 3 points, and anyone who can't see that is just plain stupid.

15 minutes of Neymarisms and we almost conceded on 90 minutes anyway.
 

LeParisien

Wrong about everything
Mar 5, 2018
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I would ask why Poch who is notorious for his teams fitness levels couldnt get our record signing fit. Also having had foyth here for as long as he has been. Why wasnt poch playing him regularly. Lets not act like they were pulling up trees under the old boss. Sess was out injured but hardly got a look in when fit. Lets be honest here. The players were terrible for a nearly a year under poch. It wasnt poch of 16/17 17/18 that got sacked. Potential is one thing. Desire is what makes you succeed. Jose has shown that with Lo Celso
Hang on... you've assumed that because Mourinho was the wrong choice, the right choice must have been to keep Poch. Or that I think Poch was perfect (he isnt). My argument in that post was that Mou is the wrong coach for us.

The one strand you seemed to have picked up on (out of five) is that Mourinho isnt developing young players with talent. Foyth is not the best example because he has had a lot of injuries under both coaches. He was getting more and more game time under Poch when fit though. He had some very rash games but he also had some great outings in the CL and against Man City where he looked composed on the ball and shackled world class players (notably Sterling). Lets see what happens under Mourinho. My suspicion is (and you can quote me on this later) that because he is not yet reliable, he will not be given an opportunity to fulfill his potential and we will not see the best from someone who was an Argentine international at 21.

Your points on Sess and Ndombele are irrelevant. Even if Poch was doing a terrible job, all that means is that we can criticise Poch for the same thing as Mou. My argument is that Mou was a bad fit because we will not be buying fully formed players for big money - something Mou himself has said repeatedly whilst hes been here - but instead relying on buying potential to develop. This is the kind of Dortmund-esque strategy so many have pined for and seemed to be kick started last summer. Mou aint gonna maximise that.
 

ItsBoris

Well-Known Member
Jan 18, 2011
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8,604
Sneaking a win at home to the team in 10th? Is not going to change my mind after witnessing the mist negative boring dross ive seen at spurs. It was only a few weeks ago he was getting schooled by Chris wilder.

We have issues with the playing squad but I absolutely don't think that this is the best you could get out of them.

I know time's been feeling slow lately, but that was less than 5 days ago man :D
 

Mr Pink

SC Supporter
Aug 25, 2010
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99,338
I loved his post match interview and the whole thing last night between Lloris and Son shows Jose is getting into their heads and having an affect.

Yes it's a very boring watch at the moment but when trying to change a team you have to start at the back.

We are seeing clear improvements defensively and as we build confidence we'll see more effective attacking football as well. That has to be the hope.

No one is expecting pretty expansive football under Jose, but if he makes us tough as hell to beat and we see the cutting edge in the attacking third that we'll need to be successful I'll absolutely take that if we end up winning something.

But he must find the balance as what we saw last night was more about two teams being very passive than anything else.
 

LeParisien

Wrong about everything
Mar 5, 2018
3,212
8,169
I loved his post match interview and the whole thing last night between Lloris and Son shows Jose is getting into their heads and having an affect.

Yes it's a very boring watch at the moment but when trying to change a team you have to start at the back.

We are seeing clear improvements defensively and as we build confidence we'll see more effective attacking football as well. That has to be the hope.

No one is expecting pretty expansive football under Jose, but if he makes us tough as hell to beat and we see the cutting edge in the attacking third that we'll need to be successful I'll absolutely take that if we end up winning something.

But he must find the balance as what we saw last night was more about two teams being very passive than anything else.
Obviously Im no big Mou fan but that is the potential upside and I hope it happens!!
 

DanielJohnCosta

Well-Known Member
Jul 10, 2015
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It's okay to pine after the same thing from the out going manager though?

Same players, same problems.

Poch was right, glaringly so, about one aspect at this club. People continue to pile on Mourinho though even though he suffers the same problems the outgoing incumbent did.
Cmon man, how dense can you be? Same players, same issues? If he can’t get a group of professional footballers to pass forward why do we even need managers in football
 
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Cmon man, how dense can you be? Same players, same issues? If he can’t get a group of professional footballers to pass forward why do we even need managers in football
You're excusing the players. There is no debate to be had with you then.
 
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so you think our players are not capable of playing a forward pass, involving their striker?
Are you saying that these players don't pass forward at all? Or are we just talking about Kane? That wasn't your original point.
 

enfieldyid

Active Member
Sep 22, 2004
63
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Tim Sherwood was a better Spurs manager than Mourinho, and I gave up my season ticket because of the way we were playing under him. Anyone who thinks the fight between Lloris and Son shows passion is wrong. It shows the beginning of the end of us challenging for things, you can tell the squad is unhappy. We are going to have an even more fractured squad. This tension has been heightened by Mourinho.
 

H-SF

Well-Known Member
Jan 2, 2020
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I just find it baffling that people are complaining about the style of play, they aren’t remembering that for the entirety of last season and this season under Poch we played similarly ‘dull’ and ‘arduous’ football. The last season we played ‘nice’ football was 17/18. Surely the only thing thats important is seeing gradual improvements in areas of our game, and I can say that defensively (Sheffield individual errors aside) we look systematically more solid since the restart. I think Jose would admit that offensively we aren’t as free following as he’d like us to be but just give him time ffs.
 
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