And no one has ever explained it. A minor knock for Gazza?
Jose Mourinho
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rez9000
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You see, up until recently, I'd have disagreed with that. But, after reading the THST minutes and Levy's comments, which made me feel unutterably deflated, I can't bring myself to disagree any more.haha this is still going strong.
What a thing to argue about.
For me it doesn't really matter who is the manager if they are constantly hamstrung from above.
We aren't going to appoint anyone who's going to magically transform this team, we aren't going to get anyone who us fans will be patient with, there can be no project because we won't show the patience for that either. This needs more money throwing at it than our dear leader is ever likely to chuck at it unless we sell Kane. Simplistic I know and I don't mean outrageous amounts before anyone has a hissy about doing a Leeds, but that's the truth of it and right now we aren't the club for that.
So Mourinho is manager? meh. Eddie Howe? meh.......Nagelsmann? haha and meh. On the football side, this club has gone fucking stale in almost every respect but no, lets not point the finger at the architect of it all, lets all bicker about Jose fucking Mourinho as if getting rid will go any way at all to solving our problems in the long run.
I said it a few weeks ago, this club needs a re-set at the top. The 'philosophy' ain't working and isn't ever likely to. We're a massive club and its time we started to fucking act like one.
All my onions of course
And the thing of it is, that the 'doing a Leeds' argument can't hold water any more because we're no longer a financially small club with the revenue that we look to generate through increased gates and worldwide marketing. We're not up to Man U or Real's level (yet) but we're not what Leeds were when they began their reckless helter-skelter dash to near-oblivion.
Again, I can't express how demoralising I found Levy's comments about spending. I've tried to give myself some optimism in thinking maybe he's saying that to keep the wolves at bay when it comes to pricing or some other cunning ploy. But then when the rumours about Kane wanting out (and I fully acknowledge that they're only rumours), having said he'll stay as long as we match his ambition, has left me very despondent.
I can only hope that....
Nope. I can't even hope for anything specific. I can only hope.
rez9000
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Oh, but being told that Mourinho is yesterday's man in one form or another 117 times over the last 50 pages is almost Swiftian in its sophistication, yes?4 months? Really
We heard you mate. I don't think you will have to write the same post for the 117th time in the last 50 pages. It's getting a bit boring.
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Like the virus itself, it's spreading into every thread in here
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Yeah, I make you right there mate. Cracking joke.Looks like vinny samways with his pint checking the SC threads for who or what to disagree with next.
shelfboy68
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Just thought I would add a bit of fun in to an otherwise depressing situation glad you took it in good heart
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Always mate, I'm always up for a laugh.Just thought I would add a bit of fun in to an otherwise depressing situation glad you took it in good heart
Simeone joined midway through a season after previous manager sacked when losing to a third division in Cup and languishing in League, that first half season he won the Europa League, second season they won Copa del Rey and Euro Super Cup and had best league finish for 17 years and third season they won La Liga.
Simeone turned Atletico into a well drilled machine from literally the first time he stepped into the Vicente Calderon, not because of time,
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All good mate! So much dismay going around it's hard to keep up
All good mate! So much dismay going around it's hard to keep up
bubble07
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One of JMs biggest fuck ups
rez9000
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He lost six of his first 20 games.
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I have a strange image of you as Ndombele and A&C as Jose....
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Haha! Totally.
Don't see how, as he only lost 5 in 31 in all competitions the whole half season he was there , despite them losing 7 of the previous 10 domestically.
He had 2 weeks winter break before his first game, but as I said, he turned them around from the moment he walked in, not because of time
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If they are going to stop football they should do it now & not 2 games from the end. If they did it 2 games from the end it won't be a full & fair competition & whilst L'Pool might be considered the winners it wouldn't necessarily count if the league hasn't been completed, so do it now & see where we go!
rez9000
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You're right, it was five - but they were all in his first 22 matches, not 20, including to such heavyweights as Mallorca (who finished 17th that year), Levante (who finished 14th), and Zaragoza (13th).
But the point still stands. When he first arrived, there was weakness until he managed to get them turned round.
I wrote something earlier and misunderstood completely what I was watching and was chastised by my wife for being paranoid .
it was about adverts in the breaks at Cheltenham instead of the imaginary case in my head that the media was against us it was an entirely different case about train station staff all it did was confirm that I am stupid in jumping the gun and instead of proving I was not paranoid it proved that I am paranoid . I hereby promise to take more notice when posting something as fact and not a figment of my imagination .
it was about adverts in the breaks at Cheltenham instead of the imaginary case in my head that the media was against us it was an entirely different case about train station staff all it did was confirm that I am stupid in jumping the gun and instead of proving I was not paranoid it proved that I am paranoid . I hereby promise to take more notice when posting something as fact and not a figment of my imagination .
rez9000
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I was going to edit my last post, but what I wanted to say got a bit too long
I'd add to what I said above with a quick point to say that I'm not advocating ridiculous levels of spending, just that I can't see how we're not in a position now to be a little looser in the wallet.
Obviously, we need to operate within certain limits - maybe (and I'm just spitballing) a measured, but still significant, uptick on what we spent in the summer (if you include the fee for Lo Celso which we paid in January).
Move from being a club that views £50-60 million players not as strictly marquee signings designed to make a big splash and so occur only once in a month of Sundays.
Have to caveat that by also saying that I still hold Miguel Delaney's points that he raised in his Indy article about wages being the more important aspect of a player transfer, but the overall point is that we should be spending more and viewing spending on players as being a cornerstone of trying to bring tangible success to the club, rather than the view that Levy expressed at the THST meeting about spending not being linked to success. If that is a genuine belief, it has to be dispensed with, because it won't serve us as we are now.
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Given the track record of the club and its penny pinching approach to signings and sales, the only way I can see JM getting funds ffor fresh faces is doing a 'Bale sale' with Kane. He isnt used to that and likes a lone striker. Be interesting to see what he does.
The ineptitude of succession planning and team building with the board is borderline incompetence. Hopefully JM has some influence upwards.
The ineptitude of succession planning and team building with the board is borderline incompetence. Hopefully JM has some influence upwards.
shelfboy68
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I just can't see levy changing his stance on spending and yet many claim it's a big summer ahead, but we have been here before with the same boring approach to transfers.
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