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Jose Mourinho

How do you feel about Mourinho appointment

  • Excited - silverware here we come baby

    Votes: 666 46.7%
  • Meh - will give him a chance and hope he is successful

    Votes: 468 32.8%
  • Horrified - praying for the day he'll fuck off

    Votes: 292 20.5%

  • Total voters
    1,426

-Afri-Coy-

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Jun 26, 2012
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The intriguing thing about our current situation is the fact that it boils down to a few things at the moment.

Effort and Intensity. It seems like we don’t have any, literally any juice left in the tank. From the first minute onwards, we don’t have half the energy or vigor we’ve had in recent years. The past 12 months have taken a toll on our squad, and I don’t really blame them. The fact that this in turn affects other areas of the pitch, it leads to my second point.

Tactics. Mourinho hasn’t been perfect since the injuries started piling up, however before the new year period we were playing pretty sound football. He wasn’t afraid to make changes or alter formations and tactics to suit our opponents so the only reason this is failing to materialize now is because our options off the bench are extremely limited. With the lack of effort and intensity, there will always be a drop in concentration and therefore loss of tactical nuance. A preseason to implement ideas and get a bit of a rest will go a long way to improving this. This negative approach we are seeing at the moment is a means to an end, I’ve already said this elsewhere.

Taking both of these problems into account, the blame for our current situation is completely misdirected at both Mourinho and some of the players. I’m a supporter of the board and Levy, but the shocking recruitment before this past summer was the biggest contributing factor to the problems we are experiencing at the moment.

Absolutely no coach on the planet could get a tune out of these players until they had a rest. Or have been sold and replaced. Whichever it may be, it’s not going to happen until the season is over.

The squad as a whole needs a rest and a mental reset. With this will come a new verve and vigor to the start of our season. The tactics will be in place and hopefully settled into the players minds. Recruitment would’ve taken place, and it’s been sourly needed. That doesn’t make Mourinho a Cheque book coach, it’s simply what this team needs. We will then have a silver lining on the horizon.

From that moment onwards, I will judge JM but he will always have my full support. If given the chance I believe he will deliver.
 

Amorea

New Member
Mar 11, 2020
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It's not difficult, right now, to understand why many people seem to hold a generally negative opinion about Mourinho.

There's evidence to back up such opinions, yet there's also even more evidence to suggest Mourinho should be given more time.

The managers who have been quoted as being fired sooner than Mourinho if he were to be so now, could not compare by even 5% in trophy-winning and if any of the top 5 clubs had lost two world-class forwards and three other good internationals in a 6 week period then they too would have fallen off the performance wagon and probably big time too, just like Spurs.

Pundits and so-called experts in managerial skills, often spoil their arguments by making very moralistic comments, for whatever reason, and by clearly personally disliking Mourinho. Such angles-of-vision seriously taint their judgement, in my opinion.

Tottenham's management 'agenda' is NOT like other top clubs, like Manchester United, for example, or Real Madrid, who have the funds and the inclination to simply spend their way out of decline, however long that may take.

Pochettino is a remarkable manager and did a remarkable job at Tottenham but the decline in performance (and confidence) was clearly evident long before Mourinho arrived and the Argentinian simply could not address the issues with the management agenda so deeply entrenched!

To reach the pinnacle of WINNING in top international football requires (sadly) huge amounts of regular expenditure, year-on-year and if Tottenham's fiscal policy is to be prudent and keep a healthy balance-sheet for their corporation as a whole, then such spending will just not happen.

Fans (and I have been one since the fabulous 'push-and-run' days of 1960) can become easily confused about what they want these days, whether it be wins, trophies, 'success' or beautiful, stylish, brilliant 'Brazilian' performances. SOMETIMES, usually very rarely, they get all of that but even Liverpool this year, allegedly one of the greatest ever football teams, have provided quite a few 'disappointing' and even lucky performances in the midst of their season of brilliance.

Can Mourinho turn Tottenham around and get them back into the top 10 teams in Europe as Pochettino did so expertly?

Personally, I don't know but what I DO know is that, even disregarding his huge successes in other countries, he has helped two eminent teams in England win, between them, 3 Premier Leagues, 4 Carabao Cups, one FA Cup and one Europa League and the last of those was in 2016. I believe that only Pep Guardiola may - perhaps - have won more trophies in England - or maybe not!

Whatever the opinion of Mourinho may now be; whether mad, moralistic or merely modest, I believe he should be given at least a year to make his mark on this team, even though the Tottenham management agenda has never been designed to maximise performance over profit - and never will be.

But that's not Mourinho's fault!
 

fedupyid

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Dec 2, 2004
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I believe JM will have us on the relegation track next season. JM will sign someone like Fellani a big lump he is always someone who has been more interested in physicality. Mourinho being a great tactician is just he has always has had the resources. He believes totally in the ability of the individual, always he is the least adaptable manager I have ever seen he likes two types of players they are either world class or physical specimens. We won't be signing any world class player so we will sign big lumps. Bergwijn was not a Mourinho signing he has been on our radar since we played PSV last season.
 

homer hotspur

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Dec 7, 2014
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If Poch had carried on at the rate he was going we would have been in relegation trouble this season.
Take away those 3 successive and highly fortunate wins against Norwich, Villa and Man City and replace with a couple of draws and we would still be very much in the mix. I do agree, however, that it was almost certainly going the same way with Poch too.
 

Japhet

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Aug 30, 2010
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Absolute madness to talk about binning Mourinho (and I was completely against hiring him in the first place). The bed has been made and we have to lie in it now. He should get a summer window and a pre-season and a full season and see where we end up. The only thing that made his appointment the least bit palatable was the chat that he had reinvented himself with a new football ethos and although that's looking increasingly unlikely, we need to just see it through and strap in for the ride. Once all of the excuses are out of the way and next season starts will be the time to hold everything up for examination, but as of now we just have to hope for the best. As for the ITK, I've run out of salt in record time.
 

NEVILLEB

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Nov 6, 2006
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I think the fans have consistently over emphasised the importance of the Manager over the quality of the squad.

Yes Managers do make a big difference but you can only work with what you have and so many of our Managers have been sacked when the true cause was poor player acquisition.

Instead of sacking Managers we need to fix the real problem this time.

Mourinho hasn't done well but he is a sore loser and he's inherited a squad with one injured striker. Buy the right players and he has a pretty decent track record. I would never had sacked Pochettino because I wouldn't have undermined him in the first place. But now Mourinho is here and failing then we have to look at the bigger picture.

Hopefully Pochettino was the last scapegoat but I wouldn't put money on it.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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Aug 9, 2017
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I still believe Poch could have turned it around.

Possibly he may have , we know Spurs can cope without Harry as long as we have Sonny but Jose has lost Harry, Sonny, Steven & Moussa, Lamela can only play a bit part, Ben has been injured , Ndoblobby can't run, Sessegnon is 2nd division standard at the moment and all three goalkeepers have dropped clangers in various games.
Jose might play boring football but his luck ran out when he accepted this job.
 

rez9000

Any point?
Feb 8, 2007
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So Liverpool's season hits the rocks in a period where they lose Henderson and Alisson to injury.

But injuries aren't a valid excuse...

Note the style of play from Liverpool's opposition tonight too. Wonder if the Ateltico fans are saying how lucky they were right now? Wonder if Simeone is a 'coward' for his wait and see style. There are multiple ways for winning a football match. Are Spanish journos calling Simeone lucky for his dated passive/reactive style? (Unsurprisingly some of the serial Jose bashers in the media are creaming over Simeone tonight)

Granted Ateltico are superbly coached defensively and have a great spirit and motivation that we can only dream of at this moment in time, but it's certainly food for thought.
And furthermore, how has Simeone turned Athletico into a well-drilled machine? Because he's had time to do so.
 

sidford

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Oct 20, 2003
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If the league is postponed for a month this could be a huge lucky break for spurs and José. It gives him time to actually organise our defence and CM (imo that's just as big a cause of us conceding as much as we do as the defence is) so provides serious time to work on things and also means that Kane and Son will potentially be back for more games with sissoko and Davies allowed time to get up to speed.

If it happens then genuinely there will be no legitimate excuses for José to use next season unless it's Levy not getting in players he wanted.

Some doing making a pandemic a positive for us!
 

PeeLee

Active Member
Oct 2, 2019
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I think the fans have consistently over emphasised the importance of the Manager over the quality of the squad.

Yes Managers do make a big difference but you can only work with what you have and so many of our Managers have been sacked when the true cause was poor player acquisition.

Instead of sacking Managers we need to fix the real problem this time.

Mourinho hasn't done well but he is a sore loser and he's inherited a squad with one injured striker. Buy the right players and he has a pretty decent track record. I would never had sacked Pochettino because I wouldn't have undermined him in the first place. But now Mourinho is here and failing then we have to look at the bigger picture.

Hopefully Pochettino was the last scapegoat but I wouldn't put money on it.
Poch did well and achieved much while at Tottenham. Sacked in an act of stupidity, and still his reputation soars.
 

buckley

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Sep 15, 2012
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This what I am going to say is loosely about Mourhino .
I watched the Cheltenham racing on TV today and in three of their breaks that I saw there may be more that I did not see but it was spurs supporters at the Lane slagging off all the players and the team and the manager . Now I used to think I was paranoid but I now have confirmation that there is an anti Tottenham agenda and am not paranoid but up with the media current vibes .
Surely this kind of action during a break in a TV programme is not right or fair it may even be illegal and until they slag off other teams in advert breaks I am secure with the thought that there is a massive anti Tottenham agenda b......s W.....s C...s all
 
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