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Jose Mourinho

How do you feel about Mourinho appointment

  • Excited - silverware here we come baby

    Votes: 666 46.7%
  • Meh - will give him a chance and hope he is successful

    Votes: 468 32.8%
  • Horrified - praying for the day he'll fuck off

    Votes: 292 20.5%

  • Total voters
    1,426

Wearegoingtowintheleague

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Nov 10, 2018
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Patience is a virtue, just wait till the man has a pre season and a summer transfer window and yes if you want him sacked now you are absolutely pathetic for not giving him a chance.

Where does you faith come from that he'd get it right with a transfer window. When one looks at what he spent at Utd, it doesn't fill one with much confidence

This is a report on his transfers and performance at UTD

Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho will have the date January 1st 2019 marked on his calendar in bold ink as it signals the opening of the Premier League transfer window.
For 31 days until the end of the month Mourinho will be able to purchase players and remodel his squad as he attempts to salvage United's season.
Ahead of the resumption of the Premier League this weekend, United find themselves stranded in eighth in the table, twelve points from the summit, and seven points from the top four.
This has now been United’s worst start to a league season since for 28 years since the 1990-91 campaign, before the Premier League was even formed.
But as Mourinho seeks new funds to haul his side back up the table he might find some resistance from the Manchester United board.

Since he became United manager in the summer of 2016, he has spent £362 million on 11 players, but despite this unprecedented investment, the club has continued to stagnate under him.
The United board will be cautious about giving their manager any more money as he has presided over a surprisingly poor record in the transfer market at Old Trafford.
 

LeParisien

Wrong about everything
Mar 5, 2018
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Lo Celso is doing alright under Jose as is Tanganga and Aurier, dare I say he's managed to get more mileage out of the majority of our players than our previous manager so not sure what your point is?

Let's not turn this into an unnecessary point acting slanging match and compare managers, it doesn't prove anything.
I fully agree with you regarding the other players. But different players need different things. That’s the skill of managing people - being the right thing at the right time for the right person.

We risk going round in circles here so let’s just wait and see !
 

Thewobbler

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Oct 29, 2016
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So if he doesnt trust ndom then why isnt he giving fernandes more game time. He shouldnt be tired
 
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Was he questioned about opening the game with five at the back (and those five all being center backs? I missed the interview in it's full)
 

Navin R Johnson

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Aug 29, 2011
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I think what Mourinho is trying to do is actually conserve energy in games. Due to so many games and injuries, not including passengers within the squad. He cant legislate for keepers pushing balls straight out to attackers or players in the final 3rd showing a complete lack on intelligence. Last few weeks i can recall loads of examples where a simple pass and it was a goal. If by Xmas things havent changed then fair enough but the one positive that keeps me going is when we had a forward we were scoring goals. It was keeping clean sheets that was the problem. Jose teams always been brilliantly defensively so the hope is after the summer he would have resolved that issue and we will see a totally different side
We've been incredibly sloppy on the pitch over the last month to six weeks. Jose can call players out privately & individually and point out what's not good enough but at some point the whole culture of what's acceptable has to be lifted. High performance doesn't happen accidently, it's an ethos.
 

SE Spurs

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Aug 12, 2018
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Not on that performance against Burnley. He wasn't lazy .
Mourinho said he can't keep picking him what did he mean does that mean his being forced to pick him?
I'm really disappointed with that interview it was unacceptable, he first said he didn't want to dig anyone out then proceeded to go Full Monty.

Not sure about being forced to pick him. I think he knows he has talent, and does really want to play him. But feels he's not adapting to the league, and the teams paying for it.
 

Chirpystheman

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Jan 22, 2019
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We've been incredibly sloppy on the pitch over the last month to six weeks. Jose can call players out privately & individually and point out what's not good enough but at some point the whole culture of what's acceptable has to be lifted. High performance doesn't happen accidently, it's an ethos.

Oh i agree. We have seen in games where we have had to up it etc we have been able too. Second half today showed it. Jose defo at fault for some of it however weve been very unlucky with injuries and also none of the defence actually inspire confidence. Hes tried everything and literally every combo he can and not one looks defensively sound. At some point we have to maybe look at the squad and say its just not good enough. When we had the attacking threat on the pitch it gave others in midfield like winks more time. Weve seen now we havent got the attacking threat teams can press us and have actually shown half our squad for what it is. Limited footballers. people are looking at our performances as if Poch walked out on us. We were shocking for 8-9months before poch left. Jose up until sons injury had collected 3rd highest points in the league despite playing a style of football that we arent ecstatic about and i dont think its quite the football he wants to play.

Also i think in the transfer window when given the freedom to bring players in that he wants he tends to do ok. At united he wasnt given his first choices or second choices. Lets just wait and see what the summer brings. Surely we can all agree the team needs major surgery far more than we all thought and defo more than Jose thought when he took the job
 

double0

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Aug 29, 2006
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Not sure about being forced to pick him. I think he knows he has talent, and does really want to play him. But feels he's not adapting to the league, and the teams paying for it.
But that doest make sense. Ndombele has predominantly been on the bench. Mourinho has only been using him prior to Burnley as a substitute in the latter stages of games when we're chasing.
 

Lighty64

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Aug 24, 2010
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So we can only buy players not at the Euros?

there will be many players that are not involved. there was talk about the QPR lad, and we also need a top striker and think about the HG list. There will be plenty of good players not involved at the Euros, and I doubt every signing would come in early. though if we don't get in to Europe next season we might not be spending enough to worry
 

SE Spurs

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Aug 12, 2018
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But that doest make sense. Ndombele has predominantly been on the bench. Mourinho has only been using him prior to Burnley as a substitute in the latter stages of games when we're chasing.

But when he has started him, rarely agreed. He's hauled him off relatively early, for really not doing very much. He sees his talent, but if he doesn't get his work rate up, he's not gonna play him. And being Mourinho, he's gonna blame him too.
Mourinho had big issues with Hazard for not tracking back, yet knew he was the most talented player in the Chelsea side.
 

SpartanSpur

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Jan 27, 2011
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On the Ndombele thing and people saying it won't work, what about the other players that could have been argued were 'thrown under the bus' by him so far?

- I'm pretty sure he had a similar situation with Lo Celso who has kicked on massively and is running the show for him.
- Dier got the chop first half in CL game early on and hardly featured for a long spell. He's obviously worked hard and stepped up when the manager and team needed fresher legs.
- Vertonghen another who came off after a torrid game vs Southampton and looked broken but has stepped up with better performances in the last 2 games.
- Winks has admitted to Jose being frank with him and said he had to really work hard to win his favour early on.

Also isn't the big story about Ndombele how he overcame criticisms like this in the past to save his career that he was in risk of wasting? Let's hope he comes good again. Having Sissoko as a buddy and mentor isn't a bad thing as he was someone that turned things around after an awful start to his spurs career. For me I assume it was a final play by Jose having failed with other ideas. At the end of the day we need to find out either way so I'm not criticising Jose on this one. In fact he even leaves the door open for him by saying I hope he turns it around next season.

This isn't defending Jose for that first half by the way. That was truly shocking. My guess is the plan was to hang in there and win the game late on with Moura and Lo Celso second half, due to the fatigue in the squad. The guy is constantly having to juggle issues with fitness, confidence and squad balance. I don't envy him at all.

I do think the players are still trying for him on the whole however.

I just hope we can see some good performances before the end of the season when we get our star men back and the schedule eases up. I think that's all we can hope for now really.
 

WiganSpur

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Aug 31, 2012
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Key area we need to improve on is our basic defending. Being able to soak up pressure and 'suffer' during the inevitable points in a game where we're under the cosh. Dealing with crosses, getting blocks in and composed defending. That's where I feel we're falling short at the moment and something Mourinho needs to fix before the end of this season. He doesn't need Kane and Son to tighten up the defence so i'm not going to say he's completely powerless.

Sure, some of the players we have back there are not up to it anymore, but I still think we can be doing the basic stuff better.
 

WiganSpur

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Aug 31, 2012
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I cant believe people are really questioning the ndombele public criticism. He has been ridiculously unprofessional. He hasn't been match fit for weeks. Jose has fielded questions in pressers about it and said a few weeks ago that hes been put on a specific regime. Hes tried everything. Compare the effort of lo celso to ndombele. They are pillars apart. One was being linked with real madrid and zidane even said earlier in the season he regrets not signing him. Managers have blasted players in the past. Klopp bashed lovren and said he could have done better in trainers. Redknapp slated Bent publically and people love harry. Even the supposed messiah Poch came in and binned off half the squad as they were rotten to the core and that included players such as lennon who was idolised and then slated some of them in a book.

Hes tried handling it behind the scenes and motivating players and ndombele clearly couldnt care less. This could well ne the last role of the dice. I would add Mourinho does also state hopefully next season he can show hes excellent quality. So also shows hes not given up on the player. The squad look shot. We prob need 5 players for the first XI hopefully this shambles of a season will make levy realise we need a DoF and to hand over the transfer side of the business to someone else to work with Jose and allow him to concentrate on pimping out the station to every musician going.
Pochettino did it with Sissoko a number of years ago now. Seemed to work.
 

jay2040

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Aug 31, 2012
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Where does you faith come from that he'd get it right with a transfer window. When one looks at what he spent at Utd, it doesn't fill one with much confidence

This is a report on his transfers and performance at UTD

Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho will have the date January 1st 2019 marked on his calendar in bold ink as it signals the opening of the Premier League transfer window.
For 31 days until the end of the month Mourinho will be able to purchase players and remodel his squad as he attempts to salvage United's season.
Ahead of the resumption of the Premier League this weekend, United find themselves stranded in eighth in the table, twelve points from the summit, and seven points from the top four.
This has now been United’s worst start to a league season since for 28 years since the 1990-91 campaign, before the Premier League was even formed.
But as Mourinho seeks new funds to haul his side back up the table he might find some resistance from the Manchester United board.

Since he became United manager in the summer of 2016, he has spent £362 million on 11 players, but despite this unprecedented investment, the club has continued to stagnate under him.
The United board will be cautious about giving their manager any more money as he has presided over a surprisingly poor record in the transfer market at Old Trafford.

Ole is only building upon the foundations Jose laid down!
 

tony0379

The bald midget has to go!
May 17, 2004
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He was really trying to resist saying something but just couldn't hold back.

Rightly so in my opinion.
Everything else has failed. Overweight, unfit. Of 2 managers can't sort him out, it's time to cut our losses and get rid
 

jay2040

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Aug 31, 2012
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Plays 5 CBS but has the nerve to publicly oust the midfield for not having control of the game. Alright mate.

Nothing wrong in his comments and he was singling out a single player and not the midfield.Are you Ndombele's partner in disguise?

Nothing wrong with trying 5CBS to keep a clean sheet as that way we cant lose! And he changed it when he realised it was not working.

Re Nerve: this is Jose we are talking about!
 
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