Jose Mourinho

[chelmyid]

its Important not to assume things are turning toxic because of the incident last night.
There is a huge amount that needs addressing in the summer and I truly believe only next season we can judge anything - problem now is damage limitation between now and may and working out how we address the huge change needed
It has started - Wanyama, rose and eriksen out but let’s look at our playing squad and face up to the challenge ahead

Lloris - need to start considering his successor
Aurier - wrong attitude, not good enough
Verts and alder - both need to start being faded out
Sanchez, foyth, Tanganga - all will need time?
Davies - great squad player - really needs upgrading though
DM - non existent
Winks - good squad player
Dier - squad player at best
Sissoko - squad player
Ndom - Christ knows where that will go
Lamela - needs to be moved on
Alli - needs to seriously think whether us wants to continue football - looks completely disinterested

That’s prob only half of it as well!!

 

[mill]

Yep, plus the injuries which both of you fail to mention. Some advice, when replying to a post, reply to the contents of that post, the full contents. Makes “discussion” on a forum a bit easier.

I’m not disagreeing with the point about injuries but to say we’ve an overage squad is just wrong

 

[Danny1]

I’m not disagreeing with the point about injuries but to say we’ve an overage squad is just wrong

Ok fair point, I guess my point was over age players in key positions, Vertonghen, Toby and Rose seem to have aged quickly and ultimately hurt us because we have a poor defence now without these guys at full speed.

 

[Shadydan]

Yep, plus the injuries which both of you fail to mention. Some advice, when replying to a post, reply to the contents of that post, the full contents. Makes “discussion” on a forum a bit easier.

Responding to posts and taking the main point out of context is in fashion, don't you know.

 

[Wig]

A lot of reactive talk last night about how Kane may well leave us if we carry on like this. Well if Kane were fit and on the pitch we would have had much better results, especially in a match like last night when we created so many chances. Kane can't blame others for the situation when he's a crucial part of the situation himself

 

[Wsussexspur]

This is the whole problem with appointing Jose he polarises fan bases! Normally it takes best part of three seasons to happen but with us it’s seems to have happened in space of three months.

the fans who will be Jose loyalist no matter what.

Then there is a section of fans some of that down to his history and large section of the base not wanting him appointed in first place. They were always going to start voicing their opposition to him as soon as things turned sour.

Then there is a section which I’m probably in which wasn’t enamoured with is appointment but we’re willing to give him time and to see if he was going to get the backing from the board . However things are going wrong very very quickly and yes there are reasons for that injuries to two star players not having time to work on implanting tactics etc. The big concern though is despite the injuries is the style of play and tactics he has implemented. It so so negative in past two games we have shown in brief glimpses that when we play football and attack teams we look half decent. But for some reason and I can’t believe it’s not down to Jose’s instructions the players seem to play this safety first negative brand of football for most of the games. another concern for me is the players body languages pretty much to a man it looks awful. which is pretty concerning so early in to Jose’s reign. As a club we are going to be fed to wolves so to speak if we sack him before giving him a proper chance and backing.


I’m not sure what point I’m trying to make but just know feel really sad about the current situation and so polarised about what is the best way for the club to proceed and get out of this mess.

 

[Colonel Dax]

Last thing from me, so if we were to sack Mourinho who would we bring in? I’ve seen Howe, Huffenthal mentioned which is absolutely embarrassing from the people who stated that.

What miracle worker is currently available out there who can change us right now?

This. We can try hiring someone else but after a short term bounce we’ll under-invest again and the new guy will be under pressure / get sacked eventually. So the cycle continues. Doesn’t matter who the head coach is as long as the people running the club and their philosophy stay the same.

 

[sparx100]

Last thing from me, so if we were to sack Mourinho who would we bring in? I’ve seen Howe, Huffenthal mentioned which is absolutely embarrassing from the people who stated that.

What miracle worker is currently available out there who can change us right now?

Mourinho is outdated. He has a hampered squad but also has some top talent. He cannot make them click nor come up with a tactic or a style of play that allows us to win games. It was the wrong decision at the time and it is the wrong decision now.

We should have gone Ancelotti in my opinion but what do I know. We need someone who is going to give confidence to the players, play them in their right positions and make them want to play for the shirt. At the moment I just see anunorganised mess. Regardless I guess he needs to be given the summer to address the areas he has identified, but I do not hold any confidence in him getting us out of this mess and i suspect by christmas he will be gone.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Nigh night Mr troll.

I tried getting low enough down the food chain to talk you, I tried, I did.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

This is the whole problem with appointing Jose he polarises fan bases! Normally it takes best part of three seasons to happen but with us it’s seems to have happened in space of three months.

the fans who will be Jose loyalist no matter what.

Then there is a section of fans some of that down to his history and large section of the base not wanting him appointed in first place. They were always going to start voicing their opposition to him as soon as things turned sour.

Then there is a section which I’m probably in which wasn’t enamoured with is appointment but we’re willing to give him time and to see if he was going to get the backing from the board . However things are going wrong very very quickly and yes there are reasons for that injuries to two star players not having time to work on implanting tactics etc. The big concern though is despite the injuries is the style of play and tactics he has implemented. It so so negative in past two games we have shown in brief glimpses that when we play football and attack teams we look half decent. But for some reason and I can’t believe it’s not down to Jose’s instructions the players seem to play this safety first negative brand of football for most of the games. another concern for me is the players body languages pretty much to a man it looks awful. which is pretty concerning so early in to Jose’s reign. As a club we are going to be fed to wolves so to speak if we sack him before giving him a proper chance and backing.


I’m not sure what point I’m trying to make but just know feel really sad about the current situation and so polarised about what is the best way for the club to proceed and get out of this mess.

It’s a “dammed if you do, dammed if you don’t “ situation unfortunately

 

[ardiles]

Jose is an experienced manager and he should be changing the players mentality. We can’t go on playing casually after taking a lead and then pressing again after our opponents have equalized.

Jose should take a leaf out of SAF’s book, whose teams continued pressing for more goals even when they were 2 or 3 goals up.

 

[ardiles]

how long was Cantona suspended? will be less if he didn't actually land anything but he will get a suspension even if the fan upset his younger brother no defence for it really

Cantona had a 9 month ban

 

[SPURSLIFE]

It's a tough season but really how much if that is down to Mourinho?

Record signing Ndombele hasn't settled, £30m Sessegnon hampered all season with injuries, Lo Celso long injury when he joined and just coming good in the last month or two, Lloris, Davies, Kane, Sissoko, Son out long term, Lamela still not over his stop/ start time with us, Vertonghen legs have gone, Foyth not good enough for what we need, Eriksen half arsed until he fucked off. It's like taking a car, removing the engine, wheels, seats and gearstick and then blaming the guy sitting in it for not getting it involved in a rally.

We have a team built on scraps at the moment, I honestly don't see how we can see it any other way apart from it being tough luck. 12 players listed above who have had turbulent seasons in one way or another in a squad of 24-25. Our club has taken an absolute battering we just need to get on with it and face the reality that it will clearly lessen the quality we can deliver game by game.

I agree with what you say about the players and injuries but it's the tactics, formation and style of play that really frustrates and disappoint. We seem to run out of ideas until it's to late then we attack. There are teams out there with far less quality in their squads than us even allowing for the injuries and they are in some cases playing good attacking football but more importantly winning matches. We seem to be getting worse and not learning from our mistakes. The manager has to take responsibility for this surely.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

A lot of reactive talk last night about how Kane may well leave us if we carry on like this. Well if Kane were fit and on the pitch we would have had much better results, especially in a match like last night when we created so many chances. Kane can't blame others for the situation when he's a crucial part of the situation himself

I'm struggling to see how you can even begin to see it that way.

 

[CowInAComa]

Vertonghen, Rose, Wanyama, Alderweireld, Vorm, adding to the injuries to Kane, Son, Lloris, Davies, Lamela and losing Eriksen.

Mate are you really gonna sit there and ignore the other posts and make out like we have some top squad? I know you have been going through my posts and disliking them all but open your eyes just a little bit and try and see through that anti-Mourinho haze.

Poch couldn’t get a tune out of these players, and now neither can Mourinho. Why are the players blameless?

I don't think I've disliked any of your posts? Bit paranoid are you. I very very rarely do.

Vertonghen is possibly the only person in that list that is genuinely on the turn and a first team player. Vorm and wanyama though. Funny.

You forgot to mention 5 new signings, and the emergence of tanganga.

The question is not whether mourinho has got a shit hand to play with currently, more whether he is making that shit hand worse with shit passive tactics.

And for me he is trying to shoehorn a depleted squad of largely attacking players into a negative playstyle that doesn't suit them. Second half our passive sit deep go for the 1-0 was pathetic.

 

[Mate]

I still do not understand how people accept the way we played yesterday. How can at times we make Norwich look like Barcelona be acceptable. Mourinho won two tin pot cups at Utd. He will never be Spurs.

My prediction he will bring 0 trophies and we will be spending a fortune to sack him by Christmas.

Exactly, people blame it on injuries, but even when Son and Kane were fit we still weren't exciting to watch.

I stand by my 'horrified' selection on the poll, which was made on the day of his appointment

 

[nattydredd]

I really do think he could've done a little better here. We aint won nowt for ages..

 

[dondo]

He will lead us to GLORY

Jesus Christ couldn’t lead us to glory.
He can part the Red Sea turn water into wine, even come back from the dead but lead spurs to glory? Even the son of god has some limitations

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

The place is getting far too toxic, which will only magnify as performances and results continue to be unacceptable. I think the next week to 10 days will be interesting!

 

[chelmyid]

This is the whole problem with appointing Jose he polarises fan bases! Normally it takes best part of three seasons to happen but with us it’s seems to have happened in space of three months.

the fans who will be Jose loyalist no matter what.

Then there is a section of fans some of that down to his history and large section of the base not wanting him appointed in first place. They were always going to start voicing their opposition to him as soon as things turned sour.

Then there is a section which I’m probably in which wasn’t enamoured with is appointment but we’re willing to give him time and to see if he was going to get the backing from the board . However things are going wrong very very quickly and yes there are reasons for that injuries to two star players not having time to work on implanting tactics etc. The big concern though is despite the injuries is the style of play and tactics he has implemented. It so so negative in past two games we have shown in brief glimpses that when we play football and attack teams we look half decent. But for some reason and I can’t believe it’s not down to Jose’s instructions the players seem to play this safety first negative brand of football for most of the games. another concern for me is the players body languages pretty much to a man it looks awful. which is pretty concerning so early in to Jose’s reign. As a club we are going to be fed to wolves so to speak if we sack him before giving him a proper chance and backing.


I’m not sure what point I’m trying to make but just know feel really sad about the current situation and so polarised about what is the best way for the club to proceed and get out of this mess.

I agree with most of your post - what I would highlight is we can’t judge style of play or tactics at this point - it’s just not right owing to the problems re playing staff

in layman’s terms we are currently trying to f*ck with a limp dick

let’s wait and see a. If we are given viagra and b. If it is used properly

only then can we tell if it will Improve!