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Jose Mourinho

How do you feel about Mourinho appointment

  • Excited - silverware here we come baby

    Votes: 666 46.7%
  • Meh - will give him a chance and hope he is successful

    Votes: 468 32.8%
  • Horrified - praying for the day he'll fuck off

    Votes: 292 20.5%

  • Total voters
    1,426

Danny1

Well-Known Member
Dec 6, 2006
5,622
17,172
Before Jose we had 1.16 points per match
After he came we have 1.63 points per match - which would give us 5th

Stop it with your facts.............we don't need that in here........:woot:

I think Mourinho will always have that "boring football" statement follow him wherever he goes. This is because he likes to ensure that defence comes first & if you don't concede then you can't lose. He is building our squad from a relative start as our entire defence that made us so good are either gone or getting to the age where they cannot maintain the levels they once had.

Add that to the fact we have also lost the midfielder than held everything together. Why are there still people thinking we should be as good as we were under the first 18months of Pochs reign when:

- Lloris is ageing.
- Walker is gone.
- Rose is gone.
- Vertonghen will be gone.
- Toby is not the same player he once was.
- Dembele is gone.

That is a pretty significant drop in quality to what we currently have. Sanchez & Dier could become a very good pairing but Davies & Aurier are not of the same quality & we do not have a midfielder that can do what Dembele did. (don't get me wrong, I like Davies but he isn't as good as full flow Rose was).

Add to the above that we have lost our most creative spark in Eriksen & are trying to introduce a number of good young players into the side in Lo Celso, Ndombele, Gedson, Stevie & Sess. It will take time which is not what people want to hear but it's the truth.
 

enfieldyid

Active Member
Sep 22, 2004
63
164
Stop it with your facts.............we don't need that in here........:woot:

I think Mourinho will always have that "boring football" statement follow him wherever he goes. This is because he likes to ensure that defence comes first & if you don't concede then you can't lose. He is building our squad from a relative start as our entire defence that made us so good are either gone or getting to the age where they cannot maintain the levels they once had.

Add that to the fact we have also lost the midfielder than held everything together. Why are there still people thinking we should be as good as we were under the first 18months of Pochs reign when:

- Lloris is ageing.
- Walker is gone.
- Rose is gone.
- Vertonghen will be gone.
- Toby is not the same player he once was.
- Dembele is gone.

That is a pretty significant drop in quality to what we currently have. Sanchez & Dier could become a very good pairing but Davies & Aurier are not of the same quality & we do not have a midfielder that can do what Dembele did. (don't get me wrong, I like Davies but he isn't as good as full flow Rose was).

Add to the above that we have lost our most creative spark in Eriksen & are trying to introduce a number of good young players into the side in Lo Celso, Ndombele, Gedson, Stevie & Sess. It will take time which is not what people want to hear but it's the truth.
Totally agree with everything you say except what you say about Mourinho. The fact is Poch said the exact same thing it was just that Levy is too involved in the football side of things. As long as Levy has the majority of the control on the football side of things we are never going to sign the right players and every manager is going to fail.
 

longtimespur

Well-Known Member
Sep 10, 2014
5,830
9,949
Stop it with your facts.............we don't need that in here........:woot:

I think Mourinho will always have that "boring football" statement follow him wherever he goes. This is because he likes to ensure that defence comes first & if you don't concede then you can't lose. He is building our squad from a relative start as our entire defence that made us so good are either gone or getting to the age where they cannot maintain the levels they once had.

Add that to the fact we have also lost the midfielder than held everything together. Why are there still people thinking we should be as good as we were under the first 18months of Pochs reign when:

- Lloris is ageing.
- Walker is gone.
- Rose is gone.
- Vertonghen will be gone.
- Toby is not the same player he once was.
- Dembele is gone.

That is a pretty significant drop in quality to what we currently have. Sanchez & Dier could become a very good pairing but Davies & Aurier are not of the same quality & we do not have a midfielder that can do what Dembele did. (don't get me wrong, I like Davies but he isn't as good as full flow Rose was).

Add to the above that we have lost our most creative spark in Eriksen & are trying to introduce a number of good young players into the side in Lo Celso, Ndombele, Gedson, Stevie & Sess. It will take time which is not what people want to hear but it's the truth.
Your last sentence epitomises every wrong with society nowadays. :(
 

Japhet

Well-Known Member
Aug 30, 2010
19,232
57,392
Totally agree with everything you say except what you say about Mourinho. The fact is Poch said the exact same thing it was just that Levy is too involved in the football side of things. As long as Levy has the majority of the control on the football side of things we are never going to sign the right players and every manager is going to fail.

I agree with you up to the point where you say 'never........'. The stadium and infrastructure has been put in place so that we can attract top players on top wages. At the moment we're going through the phase of trying to transition from also rans to realistic contenders which will take some time with the current financial constraints and global problems. For that reason I think Levy is keeping hold of the purse strings, but he's shown in the past that he's prepared to step back as he did with Baldini. Levy knows as well as anybody that we have to justify the expense of the stadium and I think he's pretty shrewd when it comes to making this kind of stuff work.
 

ItsBoris

Well-Known Member
Jan 18, 2011
7,468
8,604
I think more Spurs fans are slowly coming round to this idea of thinking.

there was an analogy on the podcast that poch was like dating this exotic beautiful fun crazy girl who’d party all night watch the sunset with you have a 3am kebab drunk in her underwear but ultimately you didn’t get any real satisfaction from it whereas Jose is by no means a boring girl, she’ll stand up for herself and keep you on your toes but you can rely on her a bit more to get things done and make good decisions and she has experience and ultimately whilst she might not be as fun and thrilling, she’s the one you’re going to be a success with... fingers crossed.

but yea spot on about poch’s lack of in game management, I loved him as a person and a character and as you say for18-24 months we played some brilliant stuff but there were also a lot of matches where we were veey boring and predictable and erisken or kane has to rescue us, also we always still had that slight defensive fragility and ultimately
I think that + slight lack of investment at the right times and some tactical mistakes where why Poch didn’t win anything for us.

I think if Jose had been our manager for that period of time we’d have won something.

haha good analogy. So basically if we're Bill Clinton, Jose is Hillary
 

walworthyid

David Ginola
Oct 25, 2004
7,059
10,242
I’m proud of our history of playing attractive football, with exciting skilful players.
But it has to be rewarded otherwise it’s ultimately pointless.
I’d be happy to sacrifice some of our open, attacking football in order to actually win trophies. And I dont really mind well-executed counter attacking football. Sons wonder goal against Burnley was a counter attack for example.
Fans of teams such as Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal also have high expectations for the quality of their attacking play, but all prioritise winning over expansive football at the end of the day.
I dont either even though I would prefer to see expansive football. But do you really think that playing th
I think where you and I are diverging is that you seem to think this is a finished product, whereas I believe it is a work in progress.
I genuinely hope that you are right, I really do. I know that Jose has the skill to create a winning team, I'm just not convinced he can do it at spurs.
 

CornerPinDreamer

up in the cheap seats
Aug 20, 2013
3,716
8,088
Danny Blanchflower 1972-

The great fallacy is that the game is first and last about winning.Its nothing of the kind.The game is about glory.Its about doing things in style,with a flourish,about going out and beating the other lot,not waiting for them to die of boredom.
 
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Let's get this thread right back on track shall we..

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SpursD22

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Aug 3, 2017
4,682
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I’m laughing so hard that Jose don’t think we need to invest much hahahahaha

People getting excited over Højbjerg hahahha we’re so finished
 

spids

Well-Known Member
Jul 19, 2015
6,647
27,841
I've really tried to get behind Mourinho. But this is a very poor Spurs team despite him having the mini pre-season he said he needed. He has made our attacking players look average and in-cohesive, whilst making our defenders look bigger clowns than I thought was possible. If I was Levy I would seriously be looking at cutting my losses and starting over. This is a not a team of top players who just needed a winning mentality (which is how I think JM sold himself to Levy). This is a team that is finished and now needs a major overhaul.
 
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