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Jose Mourinho

How do you feel about Mourinho appointment

  • Excited - silverware here we come baby

    Votes: 666 46.7%
  • Meh - will give him a chance and hope he is successful

    Votes: 468 32.8%
  • Horrified - praying for the day he'll fuck off

    Votes: 292 20.5%

  • Total voters
    1,426

jolsnogross

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May 17, 2005
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How can he make us hard to beat when individual players keep making errors? The manager can only do so much tactically but it’s upto the players if they are going to make stupid mistakes which they have been. Can we stop the mourinho bashing and just look at the state of the squad. Any manager that comes in wouldn’t do any better. A lot of these players are good enough but take a few clogs out of the machine and it doesn’t work. Simple as that.
We keep setting up with inferiority complex formations, inviting pressure and chances, and inviting "individual errors". And the apparently genius idea behind sitting back is that the opponents are the ones at risk because they have possession!

When do individual errors stop being individual? When they're happening often and being done by many. And it's reasonable to sit deeper if you think you'll be killed by stepping up. We don't seem to be able to do either.

There are difficult issues with injuries, but there should still be options for out balls, passing, dribbling and coherence going forward. There should be organization, fewer gilt edged chances given up. I'm sure he'll get some time to rectify it, but it'd be good if he didn't wait til July to start that process.
 

Dougal

Staff
Jun 4, 2004
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He bashed one player who hasn’t exactly set the world alight and is incredibly lazy as well.
He’s one manager who hasn’t exactly set the world alight and is incredibly negative. And he knocked Parrott’s performance for a 25 minute sub appearance and penalty miss. And he has plenty of previous for throwing players under the bus when he wants to deflect attention away from scrutiny about his performance. And we knew all of this when he was hired, it’s not just because of the injuries we have now. He’s reverted to type while he tried to sell us a line that he was humble. People know what Mourinho is. They just hope he will deliver enough trophies before they have to face it.
 

S0S

Active Member
Dec 11, 2019
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He bashed one player who hasn’t exactly set the world alight and is incredibly lazy as well.
It will be interesting to see if it has a positive impact on the player as and when he returns or if it just cements a rift between the two and we stop seeing Ndombele as a first team member

He had words to say about Lo Celso, although they were much tamer and more in line with his expressions on Parrot, it could be argued that Jose has done a good job slowly integrating Lo Celso in to the first team now and making him our star player (it could also be argued that Lo Celso's talent was always going to shine through and it was just a matter of being given playing time)

Jose shouldn't be above criticism, he should be judged the same as anyone else, if he pulls of tactical master classes and wins us games he should be praised for this, and at times when he gets his tactics wrong and loses he should also be held accountable

There are mitigating factors such as injuries and the fact the squad has been under performing for over a year, and he was rightfully praised when he started getting us results, he's also in line for at least some critique currently if some feel he is not doing as good as he could or should be doing currently.

We'll see what happens as our injured players return and what he does after his next transfer window, he can be praised and criticised week to week depending on how he and we perform in the mean time though surely
 
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He’s one manager who hasn’t exactly set the world alight and is incredibly negative. And he knocked Parrott’s performance for a 25 minute sub appearance and penalty miss. And he has plenty of previous for throwing players under the bus when he wants to deflect attention away from scrutiny about his performance. And we knew all of this when he was hired, it’s not just because of the injuries we have now. He’s reverted to type while he tried to sell us a line that he was humble. People know what Mourinho is. They just hope he will deliver enough trophies before they have to face it.
Tottenham Hotspur Football Clubs Manager?

Nah, I don't think they do.
 

shelfboy68

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Jun 14, 2008
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Favourites? At the start of every season the pundits kept doubting we’d make top 4 again! We were spending bugger all while other clubs splashed out tens and hundreds of millions and every season we hung in there near the summit until finally they started to take us seriously for the first time in my lifetime. All that was missing was the final step. And yet I remember the times of Poch, Redknapp and Jol with more fondness than those of Ramos and Graham, our most recent trophy winning managers. As good as a cup is, consistency over a sustained period can make the weekly arrival at work on a Monday morning make you feel like a winner. How proud were you of Spurs under Poch? It’s what he promised to do when he arrived. Yes, the last full year was a huge step backwards (while also containing some of the greatest moments I may ever have as a Spurs fan), but he acknowledged the problems and was attempting to rectify them. But Levy pulled the rug from under him.
But does it have to be that black and white can we not wish or have both, sure going back to work on a Monday after another win brings a smile to my face but winning silverware would leave us with a grin like a Cheshire cat.
 

Dougal

Staff
Jun 4, 2004
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But does it have to be that black and white can we not wish or have both, sure going back to work on a Monday after another win brings a smile to my face but winning silverware would leave us with a grin like a Cheshire cat.
Yes. I think everyone here would like to win nearly every week and win a cup or three.
 

Wig

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May 23, 2018
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We weren’t rubbish for 5 years. Quite the opposite. Even at Poch’s worst we reached a champions league final and got top 4. That was considered under performing but he squeezed every last drop out that team. As far as I’m concerned he should have been given a clean slate at the start of this season much like Mourinho is now to build again.
As a Spurs fan I haven't ever experienced the highs that we experienced under Poch, and that is one of many factors that I personally give him massive credit and hold him in the highest regard. But Poch's era is now over, he is no longer with us and we have to move forward now as best as possible. So I'm backing Mourinho to give him time to turn this malaise around. I'm a nobody, so I'm aware this personal opinion matters to no one else than me.

I've quoted/replied to your post because you say that Poch should have been given a clean slate at the start of this season. I love Poch and man I really wish the fortunes were different and he was still here. However as much as many of us think he should have been given a clean slate - did Poch himself actually want that and want to carry on here? By many accounts things had become toxic, he was moody and affected by the CL loss... I'm really not certain his heart was in it to actually want to take that clean slate and stick around for another 5 year stint/cycle. If his heart and desire is no longer with us, then I'm not sure he is the right man to implement the clean slate and rebuild. Part of that rebuild is working with the existing squad whilst the transition is taking place - and I still believe we needed a new voice, ideas and motivation to work with the existing squad. We are where we are now, let's look back fondly at what Poch has given us without having to sacrifice our support for Mourinho and the team now.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Feb 1, 2005
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We have to give him next season. Then, if after three minutes of the opening game we're not 2-0 up, knocking it about and the crowd giving it the big 'ole' with every pass, he needs to go.
 

Dougal

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Jun 4, 2004
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As a Spurs fan I haven't ever experienced the highs that we experienced under Poch, and that is one of many factors that I personally give him massive credit and hold him in the highest regard. But Poch's era is now over, he is no longer with us and we have to move forward now as best as possible. So I'm backing Mourinho to give him time to turn this malaise around. I'm a nobody, so I'm aware this personal opinion matters to no one else than me.

I've quoted/replied to your post because you say that Poch should have been given a clean slate at the start of this season. I love Poch and man I really wish the fortunes were different and he was still here. However as much as many of us think he should have been given a clean slate - did Poch himself actually want that and want to carry on here? By many accounts things had become toxic, he was moody and affected by the CL loss... I'm really not certain his heart was in it to actually want to take that clean slate and stick around for another 5 year stint/cycle. If his heart and desire is no longer with us, then I'm not sure he is the right man to implement the clean slate and rebuild. Part of that rebuild is working with the existing squad whilst the transition is taking place - and I still believe we needed a new voice, ideas and motivation to work with the existing squad. We are where we are now, let's look back fondly at what Poch has given us without having to sacrifice our support for Mourinho and the team now.
Nice post. I wish I could. And if we were moving forward in the right way I think I may just be able to. But I think we’ve majorly fucked up in the Mourinho appointment which I have stated since he was first linked with the job and I have yet to change my mind. I can’t just close my eyes to it and follow while we walk off a cliff. I’ll stick my bib on and eat the humble pie when the trophies start racking up but until then I’m just speaking honestly. My viewpoint. Everyone has their own and are welcome to contribute.
 

fedupyid

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Dec 2, 2004
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As a Spurs fan I haven't ever experienced the highs that we experienced under Poch, and that is one of many factors that I personally give him massive credit and hold him in the highest regard. But Poch's era is now over, he is no longer with us and we have to move forward now as best as possible. So I'm backing Mourinho to give him time to turn this malaise around. I'm a nobody, so I'm aware this personal opinion matters to no one else than me.

I've quoted/replied to your post because you say that Poch should have been given a clean slate at the start of this season. I love Poch and man I really wish the fortunes were different and he was still here. However as much as many of us think he should have been given a clean slate - did Poch himself actually want that and want to carry on here? By many accounts things had become toxic, he was moody and affected by the CL loss... I'm really not certain his heart was in it to actually want to take that clean slate and stick around for another 5 year stint/cycle. If his heart and desire is no longer with us, then I'm not sure he is the right man to implement the clean slate and rebuild. Part of that rebuild is working with the existing squad whilst the transition is taking place - and I still believe we needed a new voice, ideas and motivation to work with the existing squad. We are where we are now, let's look back fondly at what Poch has given us without having to sacrifice our support for Mourinho and the team now.
I am sorry I thought Mourinho was overrated at Man Utd. I used to laugh at my mates that were Utd fans because he was their manager and I just could not see him making them great again. Now those people are all laughing at Spurs because they know we got a dud and they have already suffered through him. What ever magic Mourinho had early on in his career is long gone.

We have all seen Levy do something similar with AVB. Levy tried the quick fix solution, we all know quick fix solutions have no foundations and that the house will fall down sooner rather than later.
 

Metalhead

But that's a debate for another thread.....
Nov 24, 2013
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Nice post. I wish I could. And if we were moving forward in the right way I think I may just be able to. But I think we’ve majorly fucked up in the Mourinho appointment which I have stated since he was first linked with the job and I have yet to change my mind. I can’t just close my eyes to it and follow while we walk off a cliff. I’ll stick my bib on and eat the humble pie when the trophies start racking up but until then I’m just speaking honestly. My viewpoint. Everyone has their own and are welcome to contribute.
What choice do you have though? What choice do any of us have? I do think he needs time and many are already sure that he'll fail but Levy is the only one who can make the call.
 

Metalhead

But that's a debate for another thread.....
Nov 24, 2013
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I am sorry I thought Mourinho was overrated at Man Utd. I used to laugh at my mates that were Utd fans because he was their manager and I just could not see him making them great again. Now those people are all laughing at Spurs because they know we got a dud and they have already suffered through him. What ever magic Mourinho had early on in his career is long gone.

We have all seen Levy do something similar with AVB. Levy tried the quick fix solution, we all know quick fix solutions have no foundations and that the house will fall down sooner rather than later.
I disagree that AVB was a quick fix solution. I think that Levy saw him as a young, long term project type manager.
 

Dougal

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Jun 4, 2004
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What choice do you have though? What choice do any of us have? I do think he needs time and many are already sure that he'll fail but Levy is the only one who can make the call.
This is therapy. I’m putting it all out there instead of thumping a wall. Very rarely get involved in Spurs Chat. But this is really bloody annoying me.
 

Gb160

Well done boys. Good process
Jun 20, 2012
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I am sorry I thought Mourinho was overrated at Man Utd. I used to laugh at my mates that were Utd fans because he was their manager and I just could not see him making them great again.
How I laughed as they were lifting trophies under him while we won the 'pretty football' cup.

Special... special times.
 
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