Manager watch: Jose Mourinho

How do you feel about Mourinho appointment

  • Excited - silverware here we come baby

    Votes: 625 58.7%
  • Meh - will give him a chance and hope he is successful

    Votes: 386 36.3%
  • Horrified - praying for the day he'll fuck off

    Votes: 53 5.0%

  • Total voters
    1,064

dontcallme

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The problem with Mourinho is that comes with lots of baggage, both positive and negative due to his high profile and teams he's managed / mis-managed. He definitely doesn't fly under the radar, but more straight at it, and his divisive nature makes him a Marmite individual, hence the negative perception from some, but not all.
It’s a fair point. I completely understand that some don’t want him as manager.

But as adults we should be able to judge situations on their merit rather than blindly following tired narratives.

In this case the narrative is Jose doesn’t promote youth. The fact that he is not playing Skipp is apparently because he doesn’t promote youth but playing Tanganga is not a sign that sometimes he does.
 

WiganSpur

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Well, we’ve only conceded one goal in our last two league games.

Problem is, we’ve scored fuck all in those games
It's a process. Step by step I hope we will get there. He is I feel tightening us up and that should improve with Lloris and Davies in the back line again.

I still feel we are creating enough chances to win matches, usually around 2-3 per game. We need to create more sure but we need to be more clinical with those chances and I think that's the reasoning behind a move for Piatek. I am hopeful that will come in time and with players back available too.
 

Wheeler Dealer

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It’s a fair point. I completely understand that some don’t want him as manager.

But as adults we should be able to judge situations on their merit rather than blindly following tired narratives.

In this case the narrative is Jose doesn’t promote youth. The fact that he is not playing Skipp is apparently because he doesn’t promote youth but playing Tanganga is not a sign that sometimes he does.
Agree.. I think Mourinho has under estimated the size of the challenge and he is struggling to know where to start. This challenge is so much different to what he's previously faced. Madrid, Chelsea, Utd may seem like a walk in the park to what he has now
 

adamsky

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Striker is clearly the most pressing issue, we do not look like scoring. We can get by with the midfield and RB’s we have but with no striker I would be a lot more worried looking over our shoulder than hoping to challenge for Europe. Even with a fit Kane a striker should be priority, we need an option from the bench and Kane could do with some rotation.
 

dontcallme

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Agree.. I think Mourinho has under estimated the size of the challenge and he is struggling to know where to start. This challenge is so much different to what he's previously faced. Madrid, Chelsea, Utd may seem like a walk in the park to what he has now
Whether he had under estimated the size of the challenge or not is too early to tell, very possible.

Utd was certainly a huge challenge for him and he saw the struggles a club of that size had in buying players.

Hopefully he has learnt from that experience and is up for it.
 

jay2040

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He disagrees with every post saying anything other than Levy doesn't spend money. If I was a mod I'd ban him. He doesn't post, just goes round disagreeing with 100s of posts.

A quick look shows he has 340 posts and has given 560 Disagree ratings.
Think you should tell his mum!
 

jay2040

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I'm still baffled as to why Skipp has been continually overlooked. He was very good in pre-season and did pretty well when Poch used him too. Mourinho seems intent on using 'his' system even if we don't have the players for it, although having said that he's thrown a few more bodies into midfield v Livepool and Watford and we've been quite a bit more solid. As I said, I'd have liked to have seen Skipp get a run out at least, but this is Mourinho and he hardly ever trusts young, inexperienced players. Maybe he's learned something from Tanganga but I'm not holding my breath.
What's baffling? He is not up to standard of Jose.
 

carmeldevil

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He disagrees with every post saying anything other than Levy doesn't spend money. If I was a mod I'd ban him. He doesn't post, just goes round disagreeing with 100s of posts.

A quick look shows he has 340 posts and has given 560 Disagree ratings.
if only there’s a way to send him an email
 

Oscar22

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Honestly sometimes reading on here makes me think there’s a section of our support that would hate us to be successful. At the very least they would find it uncomfortable trying to deal with finding something to moan about.

Personally I’m proud that we have managed to get a manager of the experience, skill and calibre of Jose. One of the most successful managers of all time. I’m also willing to give him more than a few months to have an impact.

It always makes me laugh a bit when people say he’s made us hard to watch. As if the rest of the season under Poch and actually a lot of the last calendar year have been absolute thrillers. Losing 3-0 at Brighton was a particular high point I imagine.

We were terrible in recent memory under Poch, you could almost predict everything that would happen. Faff about at the back for 60 mins, concede a sloppy goal, then bring subs on with ten minutes left in the hope of salvaging something. I’m sorry we haven’t become hard to watch under Mourinho, we were boring to watch at the very least for the whole of this season.

Is Poch the greatest manager in my time supporting Spurs? (Since the mid nineties)Yes. He even edges Martin Jol who I think put in a hell of a lot of the ground work for where we are today.
Was I sad to see Poch go? Of course. That Champions league final run made me think that anything can happen even when it comes to us.
However I think the blame for how things have turned lays with Poch and this current squad, along with Levy for those horrendous non spending transfer windows. They all play a part in the blame. Parts of the squad downed tools, not good enough. Levy invested ZERO over two transfer windows, not good enough. Poch seemed to drop into a dark sulky place, which whilst I can see how this effect was achieved, I genuinely think that if he were still here now we would genuinely be right in this relegation scrap. The players just were not playing for him anymore.

Regardless of all that, Jose isnt to blame for it, he’s been here a matter of months, with a poor, hole ridden squad who had downed tools not long ago. Give him time for goodness sake. Yes we need players, but we also need to realise that from where we were a few months ago, we were never going to completely 180 and start flying in the league and playing peak Barcelona football.
 

McFlash

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I think there have been plenty of positive signs recently. Some of our quick movement yesterday was lovely although granted, it was interspersed with moments of tedium, lack of movement at times and a definite lack of understanding among some of the players.
This was never going to be a quick fix but I'm still positive

We need a bloody striker though!
 

doctor stefan Freud

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Our first season under Poch was inconsistent and dull at times. It’s evidently going to take Mourinho time to build a side steeped in his ideas and football concepts. The key thing is that he’s backed by Levy over this window and the next or we are in serious trouble
 

Ronwol196061

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I think there have been plenty of positive signs recently. Some of our quick movement yesterday was lovely although granted, it was interspersed with moments of tedium, lack of movement at times and a definite lack of understanding among some of the players.
This was never going to be a quick fix but I'm still positive

We need a bloody striker though!
Mourinho said many of the players were technical players yesterday and we needed Sussoko and Kanes physicality for this one. I agree with that.

So many AMs and all pretty similar. We needed strength and substance from Central MF. Ndombele not available,Dier not who Mourinho thought he was and only the overated Winks to rely on couldnt come through. Two good opportunities the last couple if games for Winks to put his name in the game and failed
 

arunspurs

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I think Jose has been clearly unlucky in his short term here.
i) Davies plays very well in the inside LB role, gets injured in first game, never to be seen again.
ii) Sonny starts well for Jose scoring his first goal. Then ends up doing a stupid act costing us since then.After coming out of red card, he is playing within himself, seems to have lost confidence
iii) Dele & Kane started link up well. Because of the fuckup of Son, those 2 gets played 90min games over the busy christmas period. Kane pulls his hamstring, Dele loses his touch.
iv) Sissoko & Ndombele adds to the injury list as well.

On the positives,
i) Team since Liverpool game have been more solid.
ii) Tanganga clearly has spiced up the back line. He has been incredible, to say the least
iii) First clean sheet in weeks.

All we need to do is finish our chances. Had we taken even 1/3rd of clear cut chances, we would have got 6 or 8 points.
All is not lost. We got to keep plugging away. Hopefully Lo Celso can improve more, Sonny & Dele can click and Ndombele back fully fit.
 

JCRD

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It's been what? 2 and a half weeks of the window and Kane got injured just about a week ago along with Sissoko and Ndombele.
What did you expect? Miraculously signing 3 star players in that period to fill all the gaps?
January is a notoriously hard time to buy players that'll make a difference

I can bet almost anything that there was a plan in place for the window and it drastically changed with the injuries.
Reactive? Yes but Mou and the team likely saw other positions as a bigger priority and we've already loaned a kid deemed as a bigger talent than Joao Felix (who's having a hard time at Atletico) at one point. We need some bloody patience and put a bit of trust in the team.

Let's wait a bit before we judge this window as a complete failure, alright?
I would expect us to hjave plugged these gaps before they became gaps i.e. proactive rather than reactive. Have a back up to areas we needed them such as a Kane back up... although I suspect Son is that Kane back up... I dont know. What I do know is that you build a squad over time for stuff like this not to prevent you from achieving your goals.
 
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