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Manager Watch: Ange Postecoglou

Ange In or Ange Out?


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snakehipsspurs

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Aug 30, 2017
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Just have some patience. For the first time since Poch let’s let a manager and the players navigate a difficult growth period and see what happens.

Whatever your thoughts are, it’s clear the players love him and would run through walls for him. The building blocks are there, step back, log off from the noise of pundits and fans endlessly debating things and see where things lie in a few months.
 

kent brockman

Just another ginger from Sweden
Sep 1, 2012
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We dont have the WFs for Ange's style of football.

So dont understand why we dont even try to tweak our tactics to suit the players we actually got.
 

jakuba

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Aug 20, 2013
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Exact same issue that I’ve been banging on about for ages now. We do not create enough chances, our style of play is too slow and the players clearly know it going from what Johnson said.

Ange needs to learn that if we play the ball forward we can be dangerous, but this dossing it around the box and waiting for the perfect opening is not working and will not work at this level because the defences are too well drilled to fall into those traps consistently.
 

Oh Teddy Teddy

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Aug 10, 2017
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Analyse the whole game, not the last 90. We’d be absolute humped by a better team. Ange is too stubborn, he has a way of playing and that’s it.
Starting putting in calls to Tuchel for him to sort things out for 12 months, before the merry go round starts again!

Tuchel would torch the last bridge in town before making his escape. Let’s not.
 

fecka

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Jun 24, 2013
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We dont have the WFs for Ange's style of football.

So dont understand why we dont even try to tweak our tactics to suit the players we actually got.
I'd honestly just move the fullbacks out wide and try to push our wingers closer to the half-spaces where they are more likely to run in-behind or do damage with a through ball.
Right now we're limiting our options and congestion the middle of the park for no reason. Our cb's have no outlets without fizzing a ball to the wing for our winger to receive with his back to the goal, only to often lose it or simply pass it back because it's read or can't be controlled.
 

RuskyM

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Jul 9, 2011
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Analyse the whole game, not the last 90. We’d be absolute humped by a better team. Ange is too stubborn, he has a way of playing and that’s it.
Starting putting in calls to Tuchel for him to sort things out for 12 months, before the merry go round starts again!
Yeah let's have ENIC hire an ex-Chelsea bloke with a reputation for being mardy and imploding, the fifth one's bound to work.
 

E17yid

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Jan 21, 2013
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As I said in the match thread, we’ve all seen enough Europa league games, and early cup rounds to know how disjointed we can look when we make numerous changes. Even under peak Poch there were games like this.

We shouldn’t have been surprised with this showing, as frustrating as it was to watch.

With that in mind I don’t think it really tells us anything about the manager’s suitability or the direction of travel to be honest with you. It was just a typical cup game against lower league opposition.

End of the day we got the result and we go through.
Given the Fulham cup game last year I thought he’d go fully loaded tonight with maybe 1 or 2 changes so was quite surprised by the team. Almost backfired on him but as you say we got the result which is all that matters.
 

GutBucket

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May 26, 2013
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I wish our wingers were the ones getting into positions where Spence was for the goal instead being out wide, but we also need more passes like that one from Kulusevski (and Bentancur).
 

Tucker

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Jul 15, 2013
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Given the Fulham cup game last year I thought he’d go fully loaded tonight with maybe 1 or 2 changes so was quite surprised by the team. Almost backfired on him but as you say we got the result which is all that matters.
Yeah, but there’s also a lot of players who’ll be wanting game time, as well as youngsters like Bergvall and Gray who I imagine were given assurances when they signed that they’d play in this kind of game.
 

E17yid

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Yeah, but there’s also a lot of players who’ll be wanting game time, as well as youngsters like Bergvall and Gray who I imagine were given assurances when they signed that they’d play in this kind of game.
Yeah, as I say, a couple of changes sure (and those would be my 2) but the whole back 5 except Udogie plus Bergvall, Werner. Was just like last season really, almost a complete change.
 

fecka

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Jun 24, 2013
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Exact same issue that I’ve been banging on about for ages now. We do not create enough chances, our style of play is too slow and the players clearly know it going from what Johnson said.

Ange needs to learn that if we play the ball forward we can be dangerous, but this dossing it around the box and waiting for the perfect opening is not working and will not work at this level because the defences are too well drilled to fall into those traps consistently.

My counter-argument is that we lack variety and the ability to switch up the pace.

We're essentially one-paced whether we have a slow game like today, or a crazy fast game like Chelsea last year. Zero control.
We often force a fast play (because fast is good!!!) and lose the ball only to concede a counter.
 

Tucker

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Jul 15, 2013
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Yeah, as I say, a couple of changes sure (and those would be my 2) but the whole back 5 except Udogie plus Bergvall, Werner. Was just like last season really, almost a complete change.
In an ideal world, I’d agree. But I can see why Romero and VDV were rested, Porro too. They’re all pretty vital players, Romero did a lot of travelling last week, rest probably do him some good too.
 

E17yid

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In an ideal world, I’d agree. But I can see why Romero and VDV were rested, Porro too. They’re all pretty vital players, Romero did a lot of travelling last week, rest probably do him some good too.
Yeah that’s fair. Also have no idea about little injuries and stuff either.
 

GioW

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Aug 22, 2011
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That was rancid.

Things will be alot clearer come the international break.

Brentford, United and Brighton . No hiding place
 
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