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Manager Watch: Ange Postecoglou

fishhhandaricecake

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The reality is, a lot of our fans don’t have the patience to trust the process. It’s not a knock on Spurs fans, it’s how football fans are in general. A large amount of Liverpool fans would’ve wanted Klopp out after losing four cup finals in a row. Arsenal fans wanted Arteta sacked 10 times over when they were finishing 8th two seasons in a row.

The patience for the rebuild will have to come from the board. if they truly believe he can bring us success (and you’d hope they do, else why bring him in) they will have to trust and back Ange even if the fans turn on him.
All true, no fans have any patience these days.

That being said Man.U fans wanted Fergie sacked for a few years before it clicked for him.

Most top managers given proper time and backing can bring good success.

Only thing will be if we have got ange a top class RW, CM and LB and we are still shipping a ton of goals from transitions and set-pieces then there will rightly be some concerns over his coaching and tactics which you'd hope he would adapt.
 

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he is you know!

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But what was the net after sales?

Probably 130 odd million I would reckon, but does a number like that actually mean anything to anyone other than to be used in a todger measuring competition against another club's net spend?
They are saying that is the net spend. But there are so many nuances, have they used total possible or will pay, using their own figures, not including PEH fee, HK fee incorrect....etc etc
 

Hotspur33

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100% agree, we are crying out for top quality reinforcements in the middle. In fact I'd say it was more important than the frontline reinforcements.

Unless Gray and/or Bergvall really knock it out the park (which is a lot to ask of youngsters in their first season with us) I think we're going to struggle to make top four again.
Makes you appreciate how spoilt we have been in CM for a while now,
Carrick, Davids, Modric, Parker, Dembele, Wanyama, Dier, Dele…..
All our options currently, aren’t bad players, but they aren’t maybe of the standards set by the names before them. Bentancur has shown glimpses of being top class, fingers crossed he gets back to that level.
 

Ron Burgundy

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Makes you appreciate how spoilt we have been in CM for a while now,
Carrick, Davids, Modric, Parker, Dembele, Wanyama, Dier, Dele…..
All our options currently, aren’t bad players, but they aren’t maybe of the standards set by the names before them. Bentancur has shown glimpses of being top class, fingers crossed he gets back to that level.
Of that list:
- Carrick, yup. I reckon several of ours could get to that level
- Mosric and Dembele - genuinely brilliant
- Dele - more an AM really
- Dier - we was OK
- David’s - was towards the end of his career
- Wanyama - his brilliance was too brief. Shame
- Parker - good for a bit, but not long enough

I think some of the players we have now have the potential to genuinely get into that (near) top group. Modric and Dembele, maybe not though. What players they were!
 

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Strong signings and smart strategy: Ange Postecoglou’s Tottenham project steps up a gear
Australian manager has his new centre-forward in Dominic Solanke and is demanding his side wins some silverware this season

The thought of Tottenham Hotspur head coach Ange Postecoglou hiring professional pickpockets to steal the phones of his players prompts hoots of laughter from some of those that know him best.

Not out of disrespect for Mikel Arteta’s trick to teach his Arsenal players to stay alert or any derision of the idea, but because, to put it bluntly, Postecoglou does not do gimmicks.

If Postecoglou needs his players to be on their toes, then he tells them to be - as was clear when the television microphones picked up the Australian laying into his players during a drinks break in the pre-season friendly against a K League XI.

There was not anything friendly about Postecoglou’s X-rated rant, as he instructed his players to press man-for-man. But communication is one of his strong points and those who witnessed some of his squad meetings and pre-match team-talks last season rate them among the very best they have heard.

Despite momentarily losing his temper in Korea, Postecoglou was far happier with Tottenham’s pre-season this year. Given Spurs had a game cancelled and ended up playing Singapore Premier League side Lion City Sailors instead of Roma 12 months ago, a few complaints about the quality of the hotel WiFi this time around could be easily forgiven.

And rather than starting the season on the back of selling Tottenham’s record goalscorer, Harry Kane, Postecoglou can look forward to this campaign - which starts against Leicester City on Monday night - with his No 1 transfer target for the summer in his squad.

Tottenham started behind-the-scenes work on signing Dominic Solanke in June and while the deal was far from straightforward, it put a smile on the face of Postecoglou, who had been unequivocal in his determination for the club to sign an out-and-out No 9.

Given Tottenham’s immediate need for someone to put the ball in the back of the net, Postecoglou told the rest of the club’s transfer committee that he wanted somebody with experience of playing in the Premier League, who could handle playing 40 to 45 games with a Europa League campaign on the horizon and who could fit into his tactical plan.

It was quickly agreed that Solanke ticked every box and Tottenham have undoubtedly signed somebody for now by agreeing to a deal worth £65 million for a 26-year-old, which shows that the Postecoglou project is about trying to win things as quickly as possible.

Whether or not those on the outside believe it is realistic, Postecoglou will send his team out for the season with the intention of winning every competition - including the Premier League title - they enter.

There are theories around the league that there may be an opportunity for clubs to profit from the uncertainty of Pep Guardiola’s future past this season and the 115 charges against Manchester City, which could prove to be a distraction. Liverpool could be set for a period of transition under a new head coach, while Arsenal must deal with the pressure of going so close on two successive occasions.

It might all prove to be wishful thinking, but Postecoglou’s Tottenham team must be ready to take advantage if some of their rivals trip up.

Tottenham’s players simply ran out of steam at the end of their first season under Postecoglou and they must now combine the domestic calendar with Europe. But there is confidence they will now be in better physical shape to last the course and that the squad is better suited to him.

Postecoglou would have ideally liked to team Solanke with Conor Gallagher, but Chelsea never quoted Spurs less than £45 million, despite agreeing to sell him to Atletico Madrid for £33.7 million.

The priority for Postecoglou was Solanke and he accepted that it would have been difficult for Spurs to finance the signing of two players for a combined £110 million when there is work to be done elsewhere in the squad, either in this transfer window or in future windows.

Postecoglou was similarly understanding that a move for Nico Williams was never particularly realistic. Tottenham were one of a clutch of clubs to enquire what the conditions of a deal would be and were told that the winger’s £50 million Athletic Bilbao release clause could only be triggered by one immediate payment.

Tottenham’s strategy has been to shape the squad into a closer image of their head coach and what he demands from players. Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg - who joined Marseille - is still recognised inside the club as being an excellent midfielder, but he simply does not suit Postecoglou’s style. Emerson Royal, who moved to AC Milan, did not want to be Pedro Porro’s distant understudy while he retains ambitions to play for Brazil.

The plan is for more exits before the transfer window shuts and just who leaves may dictate any remaining incoming business, which, other than Solanke, has seen two young talents of enormous potential arrive at Tottenham this summer.

Archie Gray was not viewed as a priority target at the start of the window, but when Tottenham got wind that the 18-year-old could be joining Brentford the club quickly made their move.

The feeling within Spurs is that Gray is ready to help provide cover at right-back this season, but will eventually develop into a top-class midfielder and that versatility and promise was attractive to Postecoglou.

Tottenham agreed a deal to sign another 18-year-old, Lucas Bergvall, in February but the midfielder has only joined Postecoglou’s squad this summer and it is fair to say that everybody has been impressed with what they have seen.

Johan Lange, Tottenham’s technical director, has been credited with beating Barcelona to the signing of Bergvall, who is rated as one of the best young European talents in the game. Those who have seen him close up are excited about what the Swede can achieve once he can get fit enough to carry out Postecoglou’s instructions for full games.

The structured and methodical way in which Lange works has helped chairman Daniel Levy get on with what he is good at, negotiating. The pair have been joined in recruitment meetings by Postecoglou and chief football officer Scott Munn.

Fabio Paratici remains close to Levy, but has not been present in meetings or played a role in any of the major incomings or outgoings to date, which marks a shift in Tottenham’s approach to the transfer window.

The biggest change, however, is that Tottenham are a team that go into the season wanting to win with Postecoglou looking to pick the pockets of the opposition, rather than his own players.
 

npearl4spurs

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Strong signings and smart strategy: Ange Postecoglou’s Tottenham project steps up a gear
Australian manager has his new centre-forward in Dominic Solanke and is demanding his side wins some silverware this season

The thought of Tottenham Hotspur head coach Ange Postecoglou hiring professional pickpockets to steal the phones of his players prompts hoots of laughter from some of those that know him best.

Not out of disrespect for Mikel Arteta’s trick to teach his Arsenal players to stay alert or any derision of the idea, but because, to put it bluntly, Postecoglou does not do gimmicks.

If Postecoglou needs his players to be on their toes, then he tells them to be - as was clear when the television microphones picked up the Australian laying into his players during a drinks break in the pre-season friendly against a K League XI.

There was not anything friendly about Postecoglou’s X-rated rant, as he instructed his players to press man-for-man. But communication is one of his strong points and those who witnessed some of his squad meetings and pre-match team-talks last season rate them among the very best they have heard.

Despite momentarily losing his temper in Korea, Postecoglou was far happier with Tottenham’s pre-season this year. Given Spurs had a game cancelled and ended up playing Singapore Premier League side Lion City Sailors instead of Roma 12 months ago, a few complaints about the quality of the hotel WiFi this time around could be easily forgiven.

And rather than starting the season on the back of selling Tottenham’s record goalscorer, Harry Kane, Postecoglou can look forward to this campaign - which starts against Leicester City on Monday night - with his No 1 transfer target for the summer in his squad.

Tottenham started behind-the-scenes work on signing Dominic Solanke in June and while the deal was far from straightforward, it put a smile on the face of Postecoglou, who had been unequivocal in his determination for the club to sign an out-and-out No 9.

Given Tottenham’s immediate need for someone to put the ball in the back of the net, Postecoglou told the rest of the club’s transfer committee that he wanted somebody with experience of playing in the Premier League, who could handle playing 40 to 45 games with a Europa League campaign on the horizon and who could fit into his tactical plan.

It was quickly agreed that Solanke ticked every box and Tottenham have undoubtedly signed somebody for now by agreeing to a deal worth £65 million for a 26-year-old, which shows that the Postecoglou project is about trying to win things as quickly as possible.

Whether or not those on the outside believe it is realistic, Postecoglou will send his team out for the season with the intention of winning every competition - including the Premier League title - they enter.

There are theories around the league that there may be an opportunity for clubs to profit from the uncertainty of Pep Guardiola’s future past this season and the 115 charges against Manchester City, which could prove to be a distraction. Liverpool could be set for a period of transition under a new head coach, while Arsenal must deal with the pressure of going so close on two successive occasions.

It might all prove to be wishful thinking, but Postecoglou’s Tottenham team must be ready to take advantage if some of their rivals trip up.

Tottenham’s players simply ran out of steam at the end of their first season under Postecoglou and they must now combine the domestic calendar with Europe. But there is confidence they will now be in better physical shape to last the course and that the squad is better suited to him.

Postecoglou would have ideally liked to team Solanke with Conor Gallagher, but Chelsea never quoted Spurs less than £45 million, despite agreeing to sell him to Atletico Madrid for £33.7 million.

The priority for Postecoglou was Solanke and he accepted that it would have been difficult for Spurs to finance the signing of two players for a combined £110 million when there is work to be done elsewhere in the squad, either in this transfer window or in future windows.

Postecoglou was similarly understanding that a move for Nico Williams was never particularly realistic. Tottenham were one of a clutch of clubs to enquire what the conditions of a deal would be and were told that the winger’s £50 million Athletic Bilbao release clause could only be triggered by one immediate payment.

Tottenham’s strategy has been to shape the squad into a closer image of their head coach and what he demands from players. Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg - who joined Marseille - is still recognised inside the club as being an excellent midfielder, but he simply does not suit Postecoglou’s style. Emerson Royal, who moved to AC Milan, did not want to be Pedro Porro’s distant understudy while he retains ambitions to play for Brazil.

The plan is for more exits before the transfer window shuts and just who leaves may dictate any remaining incoming business, which, other than Solanke, has seen two young talents of enormous potential arrive at Tottenham this summer.

Archie Gray was not viewed as a priority target at the start of the window, but when Tottenham got wind that the 18-year-old could be joining Brentford the club quickly made their move.

The feeling within Spurs is that Gray is ready to help provide cover at right-back this season, but will eventually develop into a top-class midfielder and that versatility and promise was attractive to Postecoglou.

Tottenham agreed a deal to sign another 18-year-old, Lucas Bergvall, in February but the midfielder has only joined Postecoglou’s squad this summer and it is fair to say that everybody has been impressed with what they have seen.

Johan Lange, Tottenham’s technical director, has been credited with beating Barcelona to the signing of Bergvall, who is rated as one of the best young European talents in the game. Those who have seen him close up are excited about what the Swede can achieve once he can get fit enough to carry out Postecoglou’s instructions for full games.

The structured and methodical way in which Lange works has helped chairman Daniel Levy get on with what he is good at, negotiating. The pair have been joined in recruitment meetings by Postecoglou and chief football officer Scott Munn.

Fabio Paratici remains close to Levy, but has not been present in meetings or played a role in any of the major incomings or outgoings to date, which marks a shift in Tottenham’s approach to the transfer window.

The biggest change, however, is that Tottenham are a team that go into the season wanting to win with Postecoglou looking to pick the pockets of the opposition, rather than his own players.
Excellent share, thank you!

Interesting bits about Archie Gray and Don Fab in there particularly. Also with Lange and how the plan has been executed this summer...you can tell there were and still are clear priorities and ways of achieving them. None of them have quite come off yet, except Solanke. I do very much appreciate the hard work on outgoings and hope it continues with GLC, Reg, and even Solomon so that we can get these last 1 or 2 targets in that Ange really wants and needs.
 
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