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Manager Watch: Ange Postecoglou

E17yid

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Can finally put it to bed. I believe him when he says he was surprised but it is hard to believe. I appreciate coaches and players, pros in general, view it differently to fans but he’s been in the game so long and just come from a city that has one of the biggest rivalry’s in the world and he’s surprised? It is hard to believe. Maybe it’s because he wasn’t in Scotland long and prior to that Japan and Australia don’t have the same thing culturally so even though he is incredibly experienced, he’s a bit naive about how intense rivalry’s can be. I dunno.
 

Now it's Spursonal

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Just finished listening to it all.

Ange is such a clever man and knows exactly what to say to the media when he has time and composure to prepare himself.

The lines on his anger Monday coming from 'Anxiety of how people would think we threw the game if we lost heavily to City' is absolutely genius. Perfect idea to come up with to cover up all the things he said when his temper was running on Monday night.

Everyone should listen to 21:35 in the vid I linked as well, shows that he stands by what he said but also shows that he now has way more understanding of the fans perspective on the situation and can accept it.

Brilliant press conference and will go along way to getting all the fans back on the same page as him. Well done Ange.
 

Gilzeanking

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Just finished listening to it all.

Ange is such a clever man and knows exactly what to say to the media when he has time and composure to prepare himself.

The lines on his anger Monday coming from 'Anxiety of how people would think we threw the game if we lost heavily to City' is absolutely genius. Perfect idea to come up with to cover up all the things he said when his temper was running on Monday night.

Brilliant press conference and will go along way to getting all the fans back on the same page as him. Well done Ange.
Absolutely , he's brilliant at presentation.

Whole stadium singing 'I'm lovin' big Ange' after 4 losses out of 5. (at that point)
 

dimiSpur

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Fantastic presser that. Very honest, explained his stance and why he was so agitated. That's absolutely understandable, I didn't consider it from that point of view. I really feel like this press conference solved all of the issues that arose on Tuesday.
 

dimiSpur

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Absolutely , he's brilliant at presentation.

Whole stadium singing 'I'm lovin' big Ange' after 4 losses out of 5. (at that point)
I don't think the answers he gave about his anxiety of people questioning his integrity was pre-planned. Looked like it was very genuine.
 

Gilzeanking

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I don't think the answers he gave about his anxiety of people questioning his integrity was pre-planned. Looked like it was very genuine.
I'm not saying preplanned, I'm saying he's great at the way he presents himself , seems very honest.

I don't think its bad that he showed his anger really...he cares, that's good eh.
 

Dougal

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"That's probably the worst experience I've had as a football manager in a game," said Postecoglou.

That's probably the worst experience you've had as a football manager in a game, so far...

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tommo84

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“You can’t be successful if your motivations change depending on the contest. You’ve got to want to win all the time”.

This is music to my ears. The whole club - from fans to boardroom - need to move away from the attitude that some competitions are somehow ‘lesser’ or distractions from some greater objective. We’ve had Champions League football - which was held up as some magic portal to success for a while - and it didn’t really change anything. It didn’t bring us success on the pitch or respect off it. Sure, we’ve lost some players on the premise that they wanted to play in the Champions League but really players will always find an excuse to chase more money or more attractive/prestigious surroundings (eg Real
Madrid). The objective going forwards should be quite simple: win the next game. Whether that’s Europa League group game, EFL Cup, a 3rd Rd cup tie away at Marine or a league game on a Sunday lunchtime.

Hopefully, Ange is true to what he’s said above and we will not see a repeat of the 9 changes he made be Fulham in the EFL Cup last August.
 

marion52

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I don’t think he backtracked, he just said he can’t understand a ‘supporter’ would want their own team to lose.
Some didn’t but in a 60,000 stadium that doesn’t come across🤷🏼‍♀️
 

Dougal

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“You can’t be successful if your motivations change depending on the contest. You’ve got to want to win all the time”.
This is why I was so disappointed by our cup runs this season. Great chance to show the hunger of the team and squad and manager. And it was over as quick as most seasons.
 

skiba

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Although looking back now, some of our rivals took points against Leicester during the second half of the season.

Arsenal beat them 2-1, and West Ham and Man U held them to a draw. Chelsea didn’t play them until the end of the season when the match didn’t really matter, but that was a draw.

Ultimately we came up a bit short against rivals ourselves: we lost to Leicester, West Ham, lost a lead to Arsenal at home and lost a 2-0 lead to Chelsea away.
I agree mate, we lost it against West Brom the week before.

But that is not how the media and everyone else remembers it. That season is remembered for the battle of the bridge which is still talked about to this day.

That seems to be the point a few might be missing here. Tuesday was not about ‘celebrating’ Arsenal (potentially) not winning the league or ‘bragging rights’, certainly not for me anyway.

I simply wanted to avoid this season being remembered as the one where Spurs won Arsenal the title because that’s how history would have remembered it. It would have become part of their folklore just like winning the league on our patch and be sung about for years and years.

Had Son scored that goal, he would have gone down as an Arsenal legend. One of our all time great players and goal scorers would have been defined by the guy who handed his teams bitter rivals the title. Fuck that.

Maybe it’s weak, pathetic and small time but I am happy we’ve avoided having that permanently etched in our history and hope we never have to deal with a situation like this again.
 

dontcallme

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This is why I was so disappointed by our cup runs this season. Great chance to show the hunger of the team and squad and manager. And it was over as quick as most seasons.
Exactly. We go lacklustre in the cup but have to be well up for a game that probably doesn’t benefit us?
 

tommo84

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This is why I was so disappointed by our cup runs this season. Great chance to show the hunger of the team and squad and manager. And it was over as quick as most seasons.
Agree about the EFL Cup. Losing to City in the FA Cup whilst still missing players to injury was just rotten luck of the draw.
 

yido_number1

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This is why I was so disappointed by our cup runs this season. Great chance to show the hunger of the team and squad and manager. And it was over as quick as most seasons.
Fulham was disappointing, City we have a very good team a tough game.
 
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