What's new

Manager Watch: Ange Postecoglou

IfiHadTheWings

Well-Known Member
Aug 5, 2013
3,967
12,613
I think they played us off the park in the cup tie and I suspect Postecoglu learned from that experience, let's remember he's playing these teams for the first time.
Personally I think he was just pissed off with being asked about Spurs fans wanting to lose and then realised there actually were Spurs fans who wanted to lose which blew his fucking mind. Sometimes people say it as it is and there is no hidden reason.
I’m sorry but i cannot believe someone who managed in the Old Firm Derby and has been in the game 30 odd years would be mind blown by that set of circumstances.
 

Now it's Spursonal

Well-Known Member
Aug 4, 2012
1,824
15,089
I have a different view overall but I really respect how you presented that argument. It was a great counterpoint to read. Really interesting perspective
Appreciate that mate, thanks.

Would also be interested in hearing your view on it if you've interest in sharing👍
 

spurs mental

Well-Known Member
Mar 10, 2007
25,754
51,253
My thoughts exactly
To add to that, passion doesn't have to be anger or shouting or going bananas at the players anyway. It can be portrayed in other ways. This narrative that to be passionate he has to be showing emotion is outrageous.

Listen to the way he speaks, he speaks with passion to win, to change the club, the mentality, to turn us into winners who compete every season.

He speaks with the same passion when we lose and when he's disappointed because he cares deeply and wants what's best for the club.
 

spurs mental

Well-Known Member
Mar 10, 2007
25,754
51,253
Passion is an 800 mile round trip up north to see your team get tonked by Newcastle
So, you wouldn't have been as mad that we got tonked if he had shown a bit of anger and "passion" on the touchline? Or more irritation after the game in his press conference?

I'm not being funny but nobody forced you to go on that 800 mile round trip. Fair play for doing it, I imagine it was expensive, football in general is home and away. If it effects you that much and costs that much money only to be disappointed I'd question whether it's worth it but that's not for me to decide.

Watch it back, he's as disgusted as any of us were at that performance that day.

Passion is not only shouting and giving out.
 

Metalhead

But that's a debate for another thread.....
Nov 24, 2013
25,748
39,154
I’m starting to come around to that opinion if I’m honest.
I thought that was obvious. He's pissed off about the whole narrative yesterday about wanting to lose to stop Arsenal winning the league. It's a culture surrounding the club that he can't accept.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
27,075
45,470
No but he experienced a deep hatred for a rival, so putting the situation in to context it’s not a big leap to suggest fans would feel how they did yesterday.
But if in that context they never wanted to lose he wouldn't have come across a campaign to lose a game. Some Spurs fans might have joked about losing some may have not been overly bothered some may have figured it would be for the best and some actually want to lose but to publicly shout it out and effectively campaign to lose when we technically still had something to play for no, that's a different matter.
 

dontcallme

SC Supporter
Mar 18, 2005
34,929
86,723
But if in that context they never wanted to lose he wouldn't have come across a campaign to lose a game. Some Spurs fans might have joked about losing some may have not been overly bothered some may have figured it would be for the best and some actually want to lose but to publicly shout it out and effectively campaign to lose when we technically still had something to play for no, that's a different matter.
There wasn’t a campaign to lose the game.

It was a unique situation and some fans preferred we lose over handing our most hated rivals the title. Some rather we just concentrate on winning ourselves.

The media ate this division up.

Bit there was no campaign for us to lose. Just differing opinions which some people are too immature to accept.
 

jakuba

Well-Known Member
Aug 20, 2013
180
593
It is odd that he would change tactics so drastically in the penultimate game of the season.




If this is at all correct and I'm not saying it is I would regard this as self serving and frankly disgraceful.
Not to be going back down the route of “my mate’s a Celtic fan” but having gone to more than a few games with season ticket holders at Celtic Park during Ange’s time there, they all said he has a huge ego. You’d see it too, standing in front of the green brigade long after the players had left just lapping up the praise after every home win.

I’m not having a go at him for that or for having a big ego. But I definitely think considering that, there might be an element of truth in that - albeit maybe not his prime motivator for last night’s game.
 

spurs mental

Well-Known Member
Mar 10, 2007
25,754
51,253
There wasn’t a campaign to lose the game.

It was a unique situation and some fans preferred we lose over handing our most hated rivals the title. Some rather we just concentrate on winning ourselves.

The media ate this division up.

Bit there was no campaign for us to lose. Just differing opinions which some people are too immature to accept.
Doing the poznan and celebrating though? What's that? That's not an opinion, that's just not right
 

alfie103

Well-Known Member
Jun 4, 2005
4,073
4,565
I thought that was obvious. He's pissed off about the whole narrative yesterday about wanting to lose to stop Arsenal winning the league. It's a culture surrounding the club that he can't accept.

Well I hope he has let Levy know this as well.
 

marion52

Well-Known Member
Dec 10, 2006
1,734
2,614
We all know that our team is a bit of a laughing stock in some quarters!
Who remembers (I think it was Neville) saying when we played MU ‘it’s only Spurs lads’!
We do need a change in mentality and Ange sounds like he could be the man to do it.
I hope all this doesn’t make him change of mind and leave 🥺
 

dontcallme

SC Supporter
Mar 18, 2005
34,929
86,723
It's not a linear thing for sure. The culture needs changing throughout the club if we're ever going to win anything.
Nope.

We’ll win something if we do good transfer business and stick with the right manager.

The idea that some fans being ok with us losing 1 game that almost certainly has no repercussions for us will be the reason we don’t win something next season is beyond ridiculous.
 

Metalhead

But that's a debate for another thread.....
Nov 24, 2013
25,748
39,154
We all know that our team is a bit of a laughing stock in some quarters!
Who remembers (I think it was Neville) saying when we played MU ‘it’s only Spurs lads’!
We do need a change in mentality and Ange sounds like he could be the man to do it.
I hope all this doesn’t make him change of mind and leave 🥺
I would say not. I certainly hope not. Does anyone really and truly want yet another reset? Let's just say we do - it'll only take a stretch of bad results for the discontent to start.
 

RuskyM

Well-Known Member
Jul 9, 2011
7,429
25,072
Maybe he‘ll lose interest in the club at all, especially in supporters, who want their team to lose.
I would like you to name any other time where Spurs fans have been okay losing a game.

Actually, I'll do it for you: 1999, against Man United on the final day, when it was exactly the same situation.

So statistically it happens every twenty five years, four times a century, and if he's still manager in 2049 and the same thing happens then I'll concede you have a point.
 
Top