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Manager Watch: Ange Postecoglou

Ange In or Ange Out?

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jakuba

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Aug 20, 2013
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How would Tim have done with 9 first team players out and the rest playing on fumes as a result.

I'll judge Ange when he has a normal injury list for 3 months. I'll also judge Ange if we're still having the same crazy levels of injuries next season.
I don’t think Tim would have ran our players into the ground in the first place to get 9 first team injuries.

I’ve said previously we’ve been bang average at best and well below par before the injuries looking at our winning run of 2 premier league games back to back that we’ve achieved once all season. The same was true last year where we couldn’t put any run together. His style is not sustainable and we’re seeing the result of that in our players dropping like flies and those who don’t get injured being shadows of their usual selves.
 

Gassin's finest

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May 12, 2010
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How would Tim have done with 9 first team players out and the rest playing on fumes as a result.

I'll judge Ange when he has a normal injury list for 3 months. I'll also judge Ange if we're still having the same crazy levels of injuries next season.
Much of a muchness, mate. We've been shit for over a year as well.
 

NickHSpurs

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Ha ha ha. Need to get your head out of the clouds. Firstly he wouldn't want the job other than if we gave him ridiculous money and secondly he's no better fit for Enic than the last 4 managers.

I didn't say he'd come, just that maybe that's what Levy is waiting for.
 

Typical Spurs

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A huge difference. Gray is not coping well as a centre back in terms of the positioning. Dragusin is out on his feet. Having those back also has the knock on of Gray moving to midfield assuming Ange does that. My main concern is the inverted full backs. I just don't think it will ever work. Still think the system Poch used would work best with Gray in the 6 role splitting the centre backs and fullbacks overlapping the wide attackers.
Feel that's very harsh on Gray. I think he's coped absolutely brilliantly at CB and even when we've played shit, conceded or lost, he's always played well for me.

If we want to talk about poor positioning, watch Cuti Romero up until he got injured. Ball watching, people getting behind him, which we conceded goals from.
 

Gassin's finest

C'est diabolique
May 12, 2010
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Declan? I know he supports Spurs, but the lad is a singer/songwriter, not sure he's a good fit to manage a team?
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Metalhead

But that's a debate for another thread.....
Nov 24, 2013
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Yes, and as Ange has said, the league is the best metric in terms of how you’re progressing. So shit results in the league tends to mean squeaky bum time.
I agree. I'm just loathe to make predictions based on individual games because people have been predicting his demise if we lose to 'so and so game' for a while. Winning any one game isn't a yardstick. I would say that the likeliest scenario is the board not wanting to rush a decision. I still think that DL would actually love Southgate. Imagine the f***ing meltdown on here.
 

Gassin's finest

C'est diabolique
May 12, 2010
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I agree. I'm just loathe to make predictions based on individual games because people have been predicting his demise if we lose to 'so and so game' for a while. Winning any one game isn't a yardstick. I would say that the likeliest scenario is the board not wanting to rush a decision. I still think that DL would actually love Southgate. Imagine the f***ing meltdown on here.
That would be staggering levels of tone deaf, even for Danny.
 

Silky Skills

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Aug 21, 2013
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Some of the fatigue issues and injuries are down the manager and his coaching staff. The style of play encourages hamstring injuries and this was true for the sides Ange managed in Scotland and Japan. He could have played Dorrington and rested one of Gray or Radu at Tamworth whilst five of the starting elven last night did not start at the weekend, these are professional athletes. We are not going to have the equivalent of a Man City 22/23 as our starting elven who can then be rotated with the Madrid side of 21/22
 

Trix

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Jul 29, 2004
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I didn't say he'd come, just that maybe that's what Levy is waiting for.
Dunno. I'd like t think he learnt something from appointing Jose and Conte, but it is Levy I suppose.

The one shining light for me is that Lange appointed Emry at Villa, if he's left to get on with fining the successor and not forced to appoint another CAA Base represented manager he might just get it right.
 

E17yid

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Jan 21, 2013
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I agree. I'm just loathe to make predictions based on individual games because people have been predicting his demise if we lose to 'so and so game' for a while. Winning any one game isn't a yardstick. I would say that the likeliest scenario is the board not wanting to rush a decision. I still think that DL would actually love Southgate. Imagine the f***ing meltdown on here.
Yeah, Southgate would be fucking depressing wouldn’t it. Doesn’t bare thinking about. On that note I’m off to smoke some crack and inject some heroin into my eyeball. See you later mate.
 

Rout-Ledge

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Jul 29, 2005
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I see some people are still defending his record here, but sometimes the truth is just really fucking obvious. He’s been a colossal failure. One of the worst we’ve had in the PL era. Amenable guy and hung ho approach have endeared him to people but the results have been eye wateringly bad.

The fact that relegation is even being discussed is incredible, and if we’d known this was how the season was going to pan out he’d have been moved on last summer. To be honest, I’ve been unconvinced ever since our key players returned from injury around a year ago but our form didn’t substantially improve. He picked up a bit of momentum towards the end of last season which kept him here, but things were not good even then. This season it’s gotten worse. Yes the injuries have been bad, but there is evidence from both this season and last that we’re not good enough even with a near fully fit squad to win games we really should be winning.
 

DeadleyLedley

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I think for the first time we're now potentially within ten days of Ange losing his job. Anything other than four or more points from Everton (A) and Leicester (H) and he's gone, and I don't think anyone other than the most blinkered of Ange supporters could have any complaints.
 

wadewill

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Aug 31, 2005
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I admire some of the optimism in here

But there is almost as much chance of us going down as there is of us avoiding defeat at Anfield and then beating that Newcastle team in a final.

Our away "form", I say that because its not really form, its just us, is diabolical.
 

Fatcat

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May 21, 2005
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We are not all going to agree or more likely none of us will agree with Levy's choice of next manager, but will back them all the same to have a fair crack of the whip.

Ange has had this and his unwillingness to change is what has caused his demise. Yes buying more players or better quality may have helped but honestly do think we would be in the same boat with injuries and being so predictable and easy to get chances against.

Rip the plaster off try something else. If we carry on with this mentality then it is no different to current tactics on the pitch.
Adapt or try a lower league
 

Rout-Ledge

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You can’t believe there’s chat after a limp dick display in the NLD against an Arsenal team there for the taking and after going 1-0 up? And on top of that a spurs side that has taken 5 points from their last 27?
I continue to be amazed by people willing to overlook the fact that we’re on course for our worst ever PL finish. I just don’t get it. This squad (minus Solanke, Gray and Bergvall) finished 5th last season.
 

LukaKranjcar

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May 8, 2010
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It's really very simple and I've said it a couple of times previously, this all out attack, its who we are mate, suicidal football just won't cut it at the top level.

It's completely unprecedented, yeah it'll work fine at Celtic and in much lesser leagues such as Japan but Christ it won't work in the Premier league.

There are no teams in world football that set up how we set up, make it completely clear from the off we're going to set up in such a way and achieve success. Even the likes of PSG or Bayern Munich have to have some level of tactical nous to compete and they're so far beyond the majority of teams in their league they could realistically play however they liked and still win.

But come to our level, where the likes of Brighton, Bournemouth, Fulham etc all have top players and tactically sound coaches it just falls apart. Even Tamworth had our number and they're not even a professional football club.

Lovely bloke, decent human being but nowhere near the required level for a club of our stature, in the best league in the world.

Enough is enough.
 
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