Manager Watch: Ange Postecoglou

[Marauder]

Unfortunately Arsenal aren't a 'better' team, they're just better at Tamworth or Stoke-ing than Tamworth and Stoke.

Still confident that we'll breach their low block and Kinsky will keep out their set pieces, mind.

Sadly you, Sutton, me and everyone else knows it's going to go like this:

Everyone knows except one person....

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

It’s not a must win game (other than it’s Arsenal obviously) but for me I do feel it’s a must not lose game for us at the moment. I wouldn’t say sack him if we lose or nothing but I feel a loss, particularly a bad one, isn’t good and will again feel a bit like the beginning of the end.

It’s the Brentford and Leicester games after that that will be the key ones though, imo.

Yeah I broadly agree. Although I still can’t ignore the fact we’re playing a 18 yr old centre mid at centre back. And basically have first choice keeper and defence out. Until at least one of Romero or VDV are back I won’t be judging Ange too harshly.

 

[robotsonic]

Yeah I broadly agree. Although I still can’t ignore the fact we’re playing a 18 yr old centre mid at centre back. And basically have first choice keeper and defence out. Until at least one of Romero or VDV are back I won’t be judging Ange too harshly.

The whole situation for me is a weird one. A lot of clubs looks at their injuries and blame them for results (Arsenal, for example, with 2.5 starters injured seems to be an injury crisis worthy of articles) , but it feels like we've become so accustomed to the sheer number of injuries this season that it's somehow not a reason for poor results anymore and we're being judged by our own as if we're putting out our first team every 4 days and fucking it all up.

We've have 4 PL CBs on the books (one of them being a converted LB as it is) and 3 of them are injured at once and thus we're playing an 18 year old PL rookie midfielder as a starting CB in all fixtures currently.

Our number 1 is out so we're now starting out 4th goalkeeper of the season who played his first game against the league leaders after only two training sessions.

We began the season having to suspend one of our senior CMs. Our most reliable utility midfielder has been injured, injured, suspended, suspended and then injured again, resulting in another 18 year old PL rookie now being relied upon as a core midfield option.

We signed wing and no.10 cover in the summer in Odobert only for him to immediately be injured. We gave a first team squad place to our most highly rated prospect in all of forever and lose him for two months to a virus. The less said about Richarlison's playing status the better. And now Werner is injured too.

We play Arsenal away tomorrow and 9/10 players from 25 seem not to be in contention. The no.1 keeper and his backup (former?), the starting RCB, the starting LCB, the LCB backup, our starting LB, a starting CM, backup LW/10, senior backup LW/ST, and senior backup ST. Our RB is running on fumes that wouldn't even spark a lighter and has fucked himself by not getting injured as one of his backups is now the starting CB, and the other is now the starting LB, so he has to play every game regardless of him being shagged and is now getting shit from fans over it despite being the single defender to be available for the season thus far.

What expectation of Ange at the moment is valid, considering?

FWIW I think we'll beat these twats.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

The whole situation for me is a weird one. A lot of clubs looks at their injuries and blame them for results (Arsenal, for example, with 2.5 starters injured seems to be an injury crisis worthy of articles) , but it feels like we've become so accustomed to the sheer number of injuries this season that it's somehow not a reason for poor results anymore and we're being judged by our own as if we're putting out our first team every 4 days and fucking it all up.

We've have 4 PL CBs on the books (one of them being a converted LB as it is) and 3 of them are injured at once and thus we're playing an 18 year old PL rookie midfielder as a starting CB in all fixtures currently.

Our number 1 is out so we're now starting out 4th goalkeeper of the season who played his first game against the league leaders after only two training sessions.

We began the season having to suspend one of our senior CMs. Our most reliable utility midfielder has been injured, injured, suspended, suspended and then injured again, resulting in another 18 year old PL rookie now being relied upon as a core midfield option.

We signed wing and no.10 cover in the summer in Odobert only for him to immediately be injured. We gave a first team squad place to our most highly rated prospect in all of forever and lose him for two months to a virus. The less said about Richarlison's playing status the better.

We play Arsenal away tomorrow and 9 players from 25 seem not to be in contention. The no.1 keeper and his backup (former?), the starting RCB, the starting LCB, the LCB backup, our starting LB, the starting CM, backup LW and backup ST. Our right back is running on fumes that wouldn't even spark a lighter and has fucked himself by not getting injured as one of his backups is now the starting CB, and the other is now the starting LB, so he has to play every game regardless of him being shagged and is now getting shit from fans over it.

What expectation of Ange at the moment is valid, considering?

FWIW I think we'll beat these twats.

Absolutely spot on.

 

[tevezito]

Sadly you, Sutton, me and everyone else knows it's going to go like this:

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Everyone knows except one person....

Naaaaaah, you and Sutton clearly didn't listen to Ange's presser...you just carry on with your narrative.

 

[Bigdaddyguff]

The whole situation for me is a weird one. A lot of clubs looks at their injuries and blame them for results (Arsenal, for example, with 2.5 starters injured seems to be an injury crisis worthy of articles) , but it feels like we've become so accustomed to the sheer number of injuries this season that it's somehow not a reason for poor results anymore and we're being judged by our own as if we're putting out our first team every 4 days and fucking it all up.

We've have 4 PL CBs on the books (one of them being a converted LB as it is) and 3 of them are injured at once and thus we're playing an 18 year old PL rookie midfielder as a starting CB in all fixtures currently.

Our number 1 is out so we're now starting out 4th goalkeeper of the season who played his first game against the league leaders after only two training sessions.

We began the season having to suspend one of our senior CMs. Our most reliable utility midfielder has been injured, injured, suspended, suspended and then injured again, resulting in another 18 year old PL rookie now being relied upon as a core midfield option.

We signed wing and no.10 cover in the summer in Odobert only for him to immediately be injured. We gave a first team squad place to our most highly rated prospect in all of forever and lose him for two months to a virus. The less said about Richarlison's playing status the better. And now Werner is injured too.

We play Arsenal away tomorrow and 9/10 players from 25 seem not to be in contention. The no.1 keeper and his backup (former?), the starting RCB, the starting LCB, the LCB backup, our starting LB, a starting CM, backup LW/10, senior backup LW/ST, and senior backup ST. Our RB is running on fumes that wouldn't even spark a lighter and has fucked himself by not getting injured as one of his backups is now the starting CB, and the other is now the starting LB, so he has to play every game regardless of him being shagged and is now getting shit from fans over it despite being the single defender to be available for the season thus far.

What expectation of Ange at the moment is valid, considering?

FWIW I think we'll beat these twats.

Love every bit of this.

 

[Mark_147]

Yeah - I don't get this sudden doom and gloom as though this match will be a deciding factor.

Plenty for this team to still play for - 1 win from a Cup final, 2 important Europa League matches to get to the knockout stage, still in FA Cup.

We are still a few weeks from getting some key players back.

Outside chance still of bringing in a new attacking player this month.

We have just signed a new #1 keeper.

Players like Bergvall and Gray are playing themselves into the starting XI.

Worrying about the league table in mid-January is madness. It does not matter. Get healthy and then go on a bit of a run, and see where we are in May.

I mean we are sliding down the table week after week into a position that nobody would of dared predicted at the beginning of the season. I think people have the right to be concerned about our league position at the bare minimum. The league is the bread and butter, it's the most accurate reflection of how your team is performing whether people like it or not.

 

[coy-spurs1882]

Yeah - I don't get this sudden doom and gloom as though this match will be a deciding factor.

Plenty for this team to still play for - 1 win from a Cup final, 2 important Europa League matches to get to the knockout stage, still in FA Cup.

We are still a few weeks from getting some key players back.

Outside chance still of bringing in a new attacking player this month.

We have just signed a new #1 keeper.

Players like Bergvall and Gray are playing themselves into the starting XI.

Worrying about the league table in mid-January is madness. It does not matter. Get healthy and then go on a bit of a run, and see where we are in May.

should be a draw?

 

[For the love of Spurs]

And I think that’s when Levy starts to load the gun

He has a chance now to help the team by getting us the players we need in the market. Sacking the manager post window could be too late if we get dragged into a relegation battle. Horse and bolted.

 

[Mattspurs1982]

Yeah I broadly agree. Although I still can’t ignore the fact we’re playing a 18 yr old centre mid at centre back. And basically have first choice keeper and defence out. Until at least one of Romero or VDV are back I won’t be judging Ange too harshly.

VDV, Romero and Vicario all played in the awful results against Palace and Brighton - while only VdV missed Ipswich. I judge Ange on his entire time with us. The recent injuries appear to have bought Ange time and some have forgot how poor we were even before we lost some of our back 5.

 

[the stick man]

The whole situation for me is a weird one. A lot of clubs looks at their injuries and blame them for results (Arsenal, for example, with 2.5 starters injured seems to be an injury crisis worthy of articles) , but it feels like we've become so accustomed to the sheer number of injuries this season that it's somehow not a reason for poor results anymore and we're being judged by our own as if we're putting out our first team every 4 days and fucking it all up.

We've have 4 PL CBs on the books (one of them being a converted LB as it is) and 3 of them are injured at once and thus we're playing an 18 year old PL rookie midfielder as a starting CB in all fixtures currently.

Our number 1 is out so we're now starting out 4th goalkeeper of the season who played his first game against the league leaders after only two training sessions.

We began the season having to suspend one of our senior CMs. Our most reliable utility midfielder has been injured, injured, suspended, suspended and then injured again, resulting in another 18 year old PL rookie now being relied upon as a core midfield option.

We signed wing and no.10 cover in the summer in Odobert only for him to immediately be injured. We gave a first team squad place to our most highly rated prospect in all of forever and lose him for two months to a virus. The less said about Richarlison's playing status the better. And now Werner is injured too.

We play Arsenal away tomorrow and 9/10 players from 25 seem not to be in contention. The no.1 keeper and his backup (former?), the starting RCB, the starting LCB, the LCB backup, our starting LB, a starting CM, backup LW/10, senior backup LW/ST, and senior backup ST. Our RB is running on fumes that wouldn't even spark a lighter and has fucked himself by not getting injured as one of his backups is now the starting CB, and the other is now the starting LB, so he has to play every game regardless of him being shagged and is now getting shit from fans over it despite being the single defender to be available for the season thus far.

What expectation of Ange at the moment is valid, considering?

FWIW I think we'll beat these twats.

Whilst I agree with this and see your point, you have to ask WHY we are having an injury crisis for the second year in a row

training methods? - I mean how are we having so many hamstring injuries in 24 months?

Lack of rotation early on in the season- Spence anyone?

inability to provide a full squad - no lb cover, no goalkeeper cover in the summer, not enough cb’s, no rw cover, only one centre forward (Ange refuses to use lankshear) no number 6 cover etc etc

the club need to look at the reasons why we are in this position for the second year running and do something about it. Scrambling around in January for plasters is not how a big club should be acting.

 

[spoon]

Things could well unravel soon. I think if we lose today and against Everton on Sunday with Moyes and I think Ange would do well to still be in the job come Monday. Draw tonight and a win on Sunday and I think he’ll see out the season with us and then who knows what happens after that.

 

[jay2040]

Bizarre, so many seem to given him a pass for today due to injuries and our record at the stadium.
If he gets credit for the win then surely some fault if we lose too.
Hoping he is able to motivate the team better than the last game and grab us some points!

It would be so good to send lego head and those cheating fucks a messge today.
COYS

 

[Monkey boy]

Everton, Leicester, Brentford has to be a minimum of 7 points

 

[Trix]

The whole situation for me is a weird one. A lot of clubs looks at their injuries and blame them for results (Arsenal, for example, with 2.5 starters injured seems to be an injury crisis worthy of articles) , but it feels like we've become so accustomed to the sheer number of injuries this season that it's somehow not a reason for poor results anymore and we're being judged by our own as if we're putting out our first team every 4 days and fucking it all up.

We've have 4 PL CBs on the books (one of them being a converted LB as it is) and 3 of them are injured at once and thus we're playing an 18 year old PL rookie midfielder as a starting CB in all fixtures currently.

Our number 1 is out so we're now starting out 4th goalkeeper of the season who played his first game against the league leaders after only two training sessions.

We began the season having to suspend one of our senior CMs. Our most reliable utility midfielder has been injured, injured, suspended, suspended and then injured again, resulting in another 18 year old PL rookie now being relied upon as a core midfield option.

We signed wing and no.10 cover in the summer in Odobert only for him to immediately be injured. We gave a first team squad place to our most highly rated prospect in all of forever and lose him for two months to a virus. The less said about Richarlison's playing status the better. And now Werner is injured too.

We play Arsenal away tomorrow and 9/10 players from 25 seem not to be in contention. The no.1 keeper and his backup (former?), the starting RCB, the starting LCB, the LCB backup, our starting LB, a starting CM, backup LW/10, senior backup LW/ST, and senior backup ST. Our RB is running on fumes that wouldn't even spark a lighter and has fucked himself by not getting injured as one of his backups is now the starting CB, and the other is now the starting LB, so he has to play every game regardless of him being shagged and is now getting shit from fans over it despite being the single defender to be available for the season thus far.

What expectation of Ange at the moment is valid, considering?

FWIW I think we'll beat these twats.

If the team sheet came out tomorrow and even with our injury issues he had Porro up front and Solanke in goal would it be wrong to question and criticise his decisions? Now of course I'm going to extremes here to make a point that whilst Injuries have to be factored in, they don't excuse every other decision he makes. For some of you there is a need to find an excuse for every problem we have and have ever had, and the fact is some of them will just be mistakes on the managers part. I keep saying it but it isn't just about the last game for some of us. After every bad performance the "knee jerk" card gets thrown about like it's the first time they are hearing the complaints. Then after every good performance the baiting brigade(3-4 posters) can't wait to come out to play, in some ridiculous attempt to show how wrong those who doubt Ange must be based on one performance. I don't know how many times it needs said but the vast majority of those dissenting voices are because of a long built up opinion over 18 months of Ange's tenure. They are unlikely to 180 after one good performance and it'll take time and consistency to turn them back onto the Ange in path.

 

[E17yid]

Whilst I agree with this and see your point, you have to ask WHY we are having an injury crisis for the second year in a row

training methods? - I mean how are we having so many hamstring injuries in 24 months?

Lack of rotation early on in the season- Spence anyone?

inability to provide a full squad - no lb cover, no goalkeeper cover in the summer, not enough cb’s, no rw cover, only one centre forward (Ange refuses to use lankshear) no number 6 cover etc etc

the club need to look at the reasons why we are in this position for the second year running and do something about it. Scrambling around in January for plasters is not how a big club should be acting.

The injury thing was key for me but I must admit, after seeing us sack half the medical team I feel more comfortable proportioning most of the blame onto them for our current woes. Not to say Ange is blameless as there’s certainly been squad management issues with Spence and Reggie and whoever but I don’t think it’s all down to training and/or playing style (though this is maybe a factor just not as big of one as I thought it was)

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

West Ham who we’ve been laughing at are 2 points and a place above us and on a new manager, so to put into some perspective Ange needs to start picking up points very soon, absolutely no excuses.

 

[HildoSpur]

West Ham who we’ve been laughing at are 2 points and a place above us and on a new manager, so to put into some perspective Ange needs to start picking up points very soon, absolutely no excuses.

We definitely do but even the most optimistic of us here have to accept that anybody expecting us to start picking up points tonight is probably being a bit harsh considering our history against Arsenal at their place. I'm certainly hoping we get a result tonight but if we don't i'll personally not be using that result as one to bash Ange with.

 

[jay2040]

West Ham who we’ve been laughing at are 2 points and a place above us and on a new manager, so to put into some perspective Ange needs to start picking up points very soon, absolutely no excuses.

I agree.though some have already said give him til the end of the season and have made their own excuses up!

 

[Mr Pink]

Just watching Sky preview the NLD.

I mean this is why some of us think there is a negative bias towards Spurs.

They literally open with Arsenal's injury problems and don't mention ours once in the whole preview.

I mean it's incredible, given we've three times the amount of injuries.