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That's OK, just don't do it againApologies about the long post.
That's OK, just don't do it againApologies about the long post.
Ban himThat's OK, just don't do it again![]()
I'm in the "i don't care" group regarding Ange at the minute.
Obviously I want us to do well and I would have liked that to be with Ange, but it has become glaringly obvious that hes not the man for us.
It makes me laugh when people say we can't get rid because he's still in all competitions.
Yes we're still in the league cup, by the skin of our teeth (Coventry) but still in it none the less!
It's practically impossible to be knocked out of the Europa at this point and the FA cup hasn't even started yet!
As far as the league goes, we'll be lucky to finish top 10 this season.
The only competition that hes done well in thus far is the league cup, the one cup that most other teams don't take as seriously!
People who claim that we'd be in a better position if we didn't have injuries, youre probably right! We might be 10th instead of 11th....
One of the main reasons we have so many injuries is because of Anges tactics and training, plus his failure to rotate players during the season. The only reason we're seeing the likes of Gray, Bergvall, Regulion and Spence playing any games is because Ange has no choice. The proof is his lack of rotation when we had a fit squad.
We'd be extremely lucky to get past Liverpool over two legs, but I shall keep everything crossed.
We'll get through the FA cup against Tamworth, that should be a given! (Or will it? I wouldn't put any cash on it)
We've got a few tricky games in Europe so nothing is guaranteed there either.
I think the majority of "Ange in" people are relying on doing well in the cups. Ask yourself, come the start of February if we were out of all the cup competitions with nothing to play for in the league, would you still look at Ange as the man to take us forward?
For me, there's way too many RED flags that show Ange won't succeed, but I look forward to be proved wrong.
I will continue to support the team and back the manager, but I think people need to be realistic at where we are as a club.
Until ENIC move on, we'll be having the same conversations every season and not getting anywhere.
Apologies about the long post.
COYS
Completely agree, that's why I'm in the "dont care" group and not the "Ange out"Generally agree, but there is a lot of ‘what if…’ in your post. What if we’d lost to Coventry. What if we’re out the cups by February. What if Ange’s tactics are killing all the players.
Alternatively: What if we jam ourselves into the final? What if we secure our place in the L16 of the EL with wins over Hoffenheim and Elfsborg. What if VDV and Romero come back and we go on another winning run like earlier in the season.
We’re in a bad place at the moment and it’s hard to see past only the negative. January will be a right test, but like you say, all we can do is get behind the manager and team. We have no real say when he’s fired so we endure.
I'm Ange out (not based on today) but I don't think he will go till the summer for the numerous reasons in this thread.I'm in the "i don't care" group regarding Ange at the minute.
Obviously I want us to do well and I would have liked that to be with Ange, but it has become glaringly obvious that hes not the man for us.
It makes me laugh when people say we can't get rid because he's still in all competitions.
Yes we're still in the league cup, by the skin of our teeth (Coventry) but still in it none the less!
It's practically impossible to be knocked out of the Europa at this point and the FA cup hasn't even started yet!
As far as the league goes, we'll be lucky to finish top 10 this season.
The only competition that hes done well in thus far is the league cup, the one cup that most other teams don't take as seriously!
People who claim that we'd be in a better position if we didn't have injuries, youre probably right! We might be 10th instead of 11th....
One of the main reasons we have so many injuries is because of Anges tactics and training, plus his failure to rotate players during the season. The only reason we're seeing the likes of Gray, Bergvall, Regulion and Spence playing any games is because Ange has no choice. The proof is his lack of rotation when we had a fit squad.
We'd be extremely lucky to get past Liverpool over two legs, but I shall keep everything crossed.
We'll get through the FA cup against Tamworth, that should be a given! (Or will it? I wouldn't put any cash on it)
We've got a few tricky games in Europe so nothing is guaranteed there either.
I think the majority of "Ange in" people are relying on doing well in the cups. Ask yourself, come the start of February if we were out of all the cup competitions with nothing to play for in the league, would you still look at Ange as the man to take us forward?
For me, there's way too many RED flags that show Ange won't succeed, but I look forward to be proved wrong.
I will continue to support the team and back the manager, but I think people need to be realistic at where we are as a club.
Until ENIC move on, we'll be having the same conversations every season and not getting anywhere.
Apologies about the long post.
COYS
I'm Ange out (not based on today) but I don't think he will go till the summer for the numerous reasons in this thread.
But playing devils advocate for the sake of it, we are still in the FA Cup/Europa, would a change give us more of a chance in these? Even if it was a temp manager
even with a full squad I can not see Ange overseeing a Europa a league win, when you need to go to a couple of away grounds and kill the game, could you see us go to Porto and getting a low scoring draw for example ?
Yes I would have kept him.Would anyone at the start of the season have imagined Reguilon would play any part in our season? Would anyone have kept him if a loan or sale could have been agreed? Would anyone have used him in the team unless it was there was no other choice whatsoever? Would anyone have played him ahead of Spence?
Why is anyone surprised that Ange didn't either?
You know that the dislike of Ange is removing all rational thought if this is what you'd rather have.I would
If we get to the end of january with all losses, and Levy doesn’t back him properly in the transfer window so that we have enough players to compensate the recurrent injuries, i would rather finish the season with Mason.
Yes it is. And sacking the manager is not going to make a jot of difference while we have literally half the squad out.No home PL win since November 3rd.
Lost 10 out of 20 games
1 clean sheet at home in 2024 (Everton)
Guys... This is serious!!!!!
I didn't say sack him yet although I think it's inevitableYes it is. And sacking the manager is not going to make a jot of difference while we have literally half the squad out.
I hope not. In 10 games time, we'll have only 8 games to change any 'situation' that we're inJust popping in to say Ange in! I may update this in 10 games time. Stay tuned![]()
It’s all cool. We are still getting CL as we are going to win the EL. We’ve just used this year to bed in the youngsters. It’s a genius move! In Ange we trust.I hope not. In 10 games time, we'll have only 8 games to change any 'situation' that we're in
It's a strange one, the players still appear to be playing for Ange, so I don't think theres any point getting rid at the moment.I'm Ange out (not based on today) but I don't think he will go till the summer for the numerous reasons in this thread.
But playing devils advocate for the sake of it, we are still in the FA Cup/Europa, would a change give us more of a chance in these? Even if it was a temp manager
even with a full squad I can not see Ange overseeing a Europa a league win, when you need to go to a couple of away grounds and kill the game, could you see us go to Porto and getting a low scoring draw for example ?
If Spurs win the league cup, the narrative will just shift to ‘Haven’t won a serious cup since 1991’Completely agree, that's why I'm in the "dont care" group and not the "Ange out"
Im hoping that your scenarios come true, although I cant see the VDV and Romero one coming true, we had them earlier in the season and we've never had any type of consistent run. (Unless you're counting the run of games agianst the likes of Qarabaq ect)
What happens if we finish 16th and win the League cup? Is that enough for Ange to take us into next season? Yes we'd finally have the "no cup" monkey off our backs but we'd be no further forward regarding league, Europe ect.
I'll continue to support Ange, but I wouldn't lose any sleep if he was to be sacked tonight