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Manager Watch: Ange Postecoglou

Ange In or Ange Out?


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TOLBINY

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I think a number of them are going to be feeling that they are being over played. That will be why they feel their performances are suffering. They're not machines at the end of the day. So that would make sense as to why they feel the squad needs better depth.
Our form has been inconsistent from game 11 last season, and they were not overplayed then becuase we had no europe and were already out the Carabao.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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He’s an excellent manager imo and from a general tactical perspective would certainly tick a lot of box’s in regards to evolution of what we currently have rather than a complete re set. Intelligent and flexible. Solanke would fit him really well. Just the big question of can he adapt the PL. Should certainly be amongst the front runners tho.

It’s not like we want a manager in the conte mould we just want an attacking coach who doesn’t neglect the defensive side of the game and has play suicidal football. Surely it can’t be that hard to find one, we just seem to be incapable of it. Ange probably only got the job because he’s Munn’s mate (Munn was liking posts on LinkedIn (I think) about Ange before he joined).
 

mil1lion

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May 7, 2004
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Our form has been inconsistent from game 11 last season, and they were not overplayed then becuase we had no europe and were already out the Carabao.
Not talking about last season but we finished 5th. I don't know why it's talked down so much. Our form was always going to be patchy first season under a new manager and without Kane. 2nd season should have been about improving the 1st team further ahead of a European season. Then I would expect more consistency the 2nd season.
 

coy-spurs1882

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Aug 31, 2012
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It’s not like we want a manager in the conte mould we just want an attacking coach who doesn’t neglect the defensive side of the game and has play suicidal football. Surely it can’t be that hard to find one, we just seem to be incapable of it. Ange probably only got the job because he’s Munn’s mate (Munn was liking posts on LinkedIn (I think) about Ange before he joined).
and we had no choices left after refusing to pay for Slot
 

Silky Skills

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Aug 21, 2013
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It’s not like we want a manager in the conte mould we just want an attacking coach who doesn’t neglect the defensive side of the game and has play suicidal football. Surely it can’t be that hard to find one, we just seem to be incapable of it. Ange probably only got the job because he’s Munn’s mate (Munn was liking posts on LinkedIn (I think) about Ange before he joined).
Conte wasn't the same after his friends death, snatching 4th from the Scum matched Ange's ten game streak in terms of excitement
 

thelak

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Aug 31, 2012
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I don't think he's coming but I do think he gets a lot of unfair comparisons, to Conte especially given he succeeded him at Juventus. He's a lot more flexible tactically than Conte has ever been and he's more forward thinking than Mourinho, he's also (usually) not nearly as much of a hothead as either of them can be.
Bit of a low bar to compare anyone being less of a hot head than Conte!
 

mil1lion

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Conte wasn't the same after his friends death, snatching 4th from the Scum matched Ange's ten game streak in terms of excitement
Isn't this a common theme though? New manager comes in and players lift their game. They're just not great players because they resort to type again. They lose the hunger after a while while great players keep the hunger going.
 

Silky Skills

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Isn't this a common theme though? New manager comes in and players lift their game. They're just not great players because they resort to type again. They lose the hunger after a while while great players keep the hunger going.
They lifted there game for far more than a quarter of a season in my opinion but you can argue we had Kane and a younger Son
 

greaves

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Whilst I like the sentiment it is typical of this bunch of players though that one of them is far too fucking cowardly to put their name to it.
Yep, though I suspect this is the case with most employees anywhere, tbf. Sadly. (I have found it to be the case in my experience anyway)
 

greaves

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Isn't this a common theme though? New manager comes in and players lift their game. They're just not great players because they resort to type again. They lose the hunger after a while while great players keep the hunger going.
Maybe. Some of them are also very young, without wishing to make excuses for them. Dented confidence may play a part.
 

Snarfalicious

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Jul 15, 2012
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Ohh, he can’t adapt. He’s out of his depth. It’s his way or the highway. He’ll never change.

Spare me! I’m hunting glory with Ange until Levy puts him out to pasture. In the meantime, a wholehearted ‘fuck you’ to Daniel Levy and the Board. Any success will be in spite of you, you cowards. Just as it always has been and how it will be until they fully fuck off.
 

coy-spurs1882

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Yep, though I suspect this is the case with most employees anywhere, tbf. Sadly. (I have found it to be the case in my experience anyway)
don't think PL footballers are similar with normal employees though. the club needs them more than they need the club
 

Tucker

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Name me a manager under the age of 60 bar HR and Fergy who has won a domestic trophy in England in the last 20 years.
Kenny Dalglish - League cup 2012 aged 61
Arsene Wenger - FA cup and Charity Shield 2014 aged 65, FA Cup and Charity Shield 2017 aged 68.
Louis Van Gaal - FA cup 2016 aged 65.
Claudio Ranieri - Premier League 2016 aged 64.
Manuel Pellegrini - League Cup 2016 aged 63 (though he looked 863.)

If we don’t limit ourselves to your slightly narrow criteria of domestic trophies to include European trophies and managers aged over 60 (Ange is 59) we can also add:


David Moyes - Europa Conference 2023 aged 59
Carlo Ancelotti - Champions League 2021 aged 63, Champions League 2022 aged 65.

So it appears to me that age really is no barrier to success when it comes to football managers.
 

kev1nxxx

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Let's sack the manager cos that worked so well the last what? 15 times? It's time for change at the top. Levy has done brilliantly with the stadium and business of THFC but he now needs to step aside for the sake of the football. Make him lifetime director or something he deserves it but we need new direction with a new chairman.
 

marion52

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Dec 10, 2006
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I don’t even think the squad is that short. Well, put it this way, we should be higher up the table than we are with the squad we have.

We got 2 decent keepers. Forster has been triffic so far and while he can be upgraded on given his age he’s done great and I’m not really sure, outside of Liverpool and a few others, many other clubs have great second choice keepers

We have 4 really good CBs including Davies as an older, 4th choice. So not short there. You could argue we need to uograde on Davies in the same way we could do with upgrading Forster but it’s not life or death and both have been great.

We have a perfectly adequate RB back up in Spence who we just put on a new deal but we don’t play him. We need a back up Lb though. But considering that’s the whole back 5 I’d say that’s really good depth other than back up LB. Again, not the end of the word, though.

Bentancur, Biss, Sarr, Maddison, Kulu, Gray, Bergvall is decent in the MF too. Sure Gray and Bergvall are still young but even Sarr is an experienced player now and with him, Maddison, Kulu Bentancur and Bissouma that depth is not bad at all.

2 decent strikers in Richy and Solanke

The main area I think where we lack some good depth options is out wide and I think we do need to look at strengthening there especially as Odobert seems a bit injury prone.

All in all, though, I would say that squad is not that bad at all. Sure, lacking in a bit of depth but then when have we ever not lacked a bit of depth, it’s an ongoing thing but I certainly don’t think it’s a case that we can just put out a good starting 11 and that’s it, we got good bench options in most areas.
Yes agree if none of them were injured, but unfortunately too many of them are
 
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