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Manager Watch: Ange Postecoglou

sidford

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Ange has been so clear that he has final say on transfers and that no player is signed without him approving it.
We have to take him at his word on that so he has approved who came in and also accepted the holes in the squad. I'm like most on here and put the majority of blame on above him but we have to be honest and attribute blame to Ange for performances and the squad we have
 

Cambridge Spur

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I’m glad so many on here can now see this, I just wonder if the match going fans are smart enough to override their usual nature to boo the manager when the results aren’t going well and instead boo the chairman who is clearly to blame for the same cycle repeating over and over.
The fans will attack Levy but that just equates to pressure on the manager.

I was there for Nunos last game and we weren’t chanting at him, it was all ‘Levy out’.

Levy will suck it up, appoint someone else, we’ll get behind him, relieving Levy of the pressure and round and round we go.

Like it or not (and I don’t), we’re stuck with him. The best we can hope for is that we luck out with a manager who can get a tune out of the current squad, like we did with Pochettino. I just don’t think Ange is the one.
 

YB123

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Those arguing Ange didn’t get the players he wanted. Well he himself said he was happy, and his decisions. Let’s not try and spin it to suit our arguments. Time will tell, but he doesn’t have long to turn it around. I really hope he does, but I have my doubt

But ANge isnt going to come out and say "I'm disgusted with that transfer window, i'm furious"

He's going to provide the standard happy response.

No manager is ever happy with their transfer business. I'm sure Sir Alex said that. You always want more but understand it cant always be like that.
 

For the love of Spurs

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Those arguing Ange didn’t get the players he wanted. Well he himself said he was happy, and his decisions. Let’s not try and spin it to suit our arguments. Time will tell, but he doesn’t have long to turn it around. I really hope he does, but I have my doubts.

You may know more than me behind the scenes but I somehow doubt a manager Conte aside would ever start slagging the club off saying he didn’t get the players he wanted. We were linked with Gallagher, Eze and Neto with multiple ITK and media linking us and we didn’t get them. We got Odoburt and Gray instead. Most former managers make their feelings clear after they leave the club. Ange has to do better in terms of motivation but I don’t think anyone thinks this is a squad to compete at the very top.
 

SambaSpurs

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Queue the optimistic ratings but I still think we’re a better team than last year where we came 5th. We’ve lost the majority of even/close games this year and haven’t lost by more than a goal in any - Leicester, Newcastle, Arsenal, Palace, Ipswich. As frustrating or poor as we perceive the performance to be, chances wise all of these games were pretty even and we were in each of them until the last kick. I think the only game where we gave up more big chances than we had was Brighton away. The games we have won, we’ve won comfortably. Most of the time the league table will broadly follow goal difference came what May. We’ve scored the most and are tied 6th for least goals conceded. Can we steal a few more wins from these closer games going forwards? I think so, and we definitely did that last season.

Bar the top 2 every team in this league is struggling for consistency. We have one of the youngest average starting 11s. We are in the quarters of the cup with a great win last time out. The league position is clearly not where we want it, and our last performance was crap, but it’s not all doom and gloom.
 

SambaSpurs

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Queue the optimistic ratings but I still think we’re a better team than last year where we came 5th. We’ve lost the majority of even/close games this year and haven’t lost by more than a goal in any - Leicester, Newcastle, Arsenal, Palace, Ipswich. As frustrating or poor as we perceive the performance to be, chances wise all of these games were pretty even and we were in each of them until the last kick. I think the only game where we gave up more big chances than we had was Brighton away. The games we have won, we’ve won comfortably. Most of the time the league table will broadly follow goal difference came what May. We’ve scored the most and are tied 6th for least goals conceded. Can we steal a few more wins from these closer games going forwards? I think so, and we definitely did that last season.

Bar the top 2 every team in this league is struggling for consistency. We have one of the youngest average starting 11s. We are in the quarters of the cup with a great win last time out. The league position is clearly not where we want it, and our last performance was crap, but it’s not all doom and gloom.
Also to add to this the comparisons with where we are now to the Nuno era are a nonsense. We were played off the park and beaten 3-0 by Palace, Chelsea and United, and 3-1 by arsenal, as well as a narrow loss to West Ham. All of our wins under Nuno were by a single goal in pretty even games.
 

Hercules

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But ANge isnt going to come out and say "I'm disgusted with that transfer window, i'm furious"

He's going to provide the standard happy response.

No manager is ever happy with their transfer business. I'm sure Sir Alex said that. You always want more but understand it cant always be like that.
Fair point. Neto, he knows came off the deck when Chelsea decided to pay a huge lump sum, and increase his wage offer compared to ours. Eze, nobody was going to pay the majority upfront, not even Citeh. He had a major say in who we sign and didn’t sign. Actually more say than previous managers.
 

hop22

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Havent‘ read the last 30+ pages of this thread but I want to emphasise, that Ange is our best coach since Poch. I Hope that he stays at least as long as he did!
 

southlondonyiddo

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Those arguing Ange didn’t get the players he wanted. Well he himself said he was happy, and his decisions. Let’s not try and spin it to suit our arguments. Time will tell, but he doesn’t have long to turn it around. I really hope he does, but I have my doubts.
And there was me thinking he was going to come out and say ‘the chairman’s fucked me mate, it’s who he is mate’

‘Oh well, fair dinkum mate, he’s a wiley old fox, should have known better mate’
 

Cambridge Spur

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I was at that game against Man U, all I remember was a big chant of "you don't know what your doing" when Nuno substituted Moura after 54 mins.
That as well 😂 but the main anger was directed at Levy as everyone knew he should never have been appointed.

Also the away game at Fulham a couple of years back, we literally chanted ‘we want Levy out’ for the whole game.
 

felmani26

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For a manager who routinely suggested we were far from the squad makeup he wanted even when we were riding high last season he can't possibly be happy with a summer transfer window whereby only one bona fide first team upgrade was presented to him.

The club might have a layered recruitment policy but as a manager, any manager, you can only think about the next season ahead because you're only ever a few poor results away from serious scrutiny and pressure.

He's been sold down the river as so many predecessors have before him.
 

cjbyid

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I was at that game against Man U, all I remember was a big chant of "you don't know what your doing" when Nuno substituted Moura after 54 mins.

Yeah I was at that game too, don't think I've ever heard such a negative reaction to a substitute like that before :LOL: baffling sub at the time.
 

YB123

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For a manager who routinely suggested we were far from the squad makeup he wanted even when we were riding high last season he can't possibly be happy with a summer transfer window whereby only one bona fide first team upgrade was presented to him.

The club might have a layered recruitment policy but as a manager, any manager, you can only think about the next season ahead because you're only ever a few poor results away from serious scrutiny and pressure.

He's been sold down the river as so many predecessors have before him.

Spot on.
 

Tucker

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Again though @Hercules , being happy with what he got is not the same as getting what you asked for.
Or more importantly, what you need. None of the signings we made in the summer were bad signings, all good players with great potential, but with the exception of Big Dom, none of them really addressed a need in the squad.
 

Trix

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Or more importantly, what you need. None of the signings we made in the summer were bad signings, all good players with great potential, but with the exception of Big Dom, none of them really addressed a need in the squad.
There wasn't a single player in the Summer I was unhappy with. I wasn't sure about Solanke but he's without question the one I am most convinced by now.
 
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