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Man City [Now Not] Banned From UCL For 2 years

Dov67

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this is probably a stretch but if the CAS upholds the charges, could other clubs who have been denied a CL spot, or the Prem Title for example sue Man City??
 

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I have taken cocaine.
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Japhet

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this is probably a stretch but if the CAS upholds the charges, could other clubs who have been denied a CL spot, or the Prem Title for example sue Man City??

That's where it starts getting really messy. There are a whole load of clubs that have suffered from Man City's cheating if you consider domestic Cups and clubs that were denied places in the CL and Europa League as well. It has massive implications with huge amounts of money involved. I don't see how City can afford to resolve all of that, even with their resources and compensation would have to be paid by them, not Sheik Mansoor. City are also well in the shit if they lose CL money since they pay colossal wages. They'll find it difficult to offload players to compensate too. At the end of the day I suspect the authorities will conclude that City are box office and won't have the balls to throw their full weight at them, more's the pity.
 

spursfan77

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If all of their players have similarly drafted contracts, which you’d expect, and they have a ban then I think they will lose quite a few players. No way those in their late 20s will stay. The club have under achieved already in the CL, they won’t want to not be involved in it at all, especially if they’re losing out on this kind of cash.

 

Japhet

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If all of their players have similarly drafted contracts, which you’d expect, and they have a ban then I think they will lose quite a few players. No way those in their late 20s will stay. The club have under achieved already in the CL, they won’t want to not be involved in it at all, especially if they’re losing out on this kind of cash.



I think they will struggle to shift some of their players because their salaries are so inflated. I can see them losing star players like deBruyne, Sterling, Ederson etc simply because big teams will be desperate to have them though. I don't really see an easy way out of this unless the ban gets overturned but they've made their own bed on this one so zero sympathy from me.
 

Drink!Drink!

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not surprised, but still disappointed how many excuses you hear for their behaviour from football journalists and pundits.

blah, blah....yeah sure it seems the rules were broken....but oh david silva what a player blah blah...poor old pep...blah blah

They cheated. Full stop. All fully documented. If severe action isn't taken against them the game is dead.

on another note...why are people so gullible...."sponsorship" from Etihad airlines....I mean yeah right. The THFC equivalent would have been Spurs getting an eye watering shirt sponsorship, stadium and training ground naming rights deal from....ENIC. The ENIC stadium, ENIC on the shirts....and ENIC telling UEFA and the media at 100m per year...it's a sound business transaction, and oh no, no, no...got nothing to do with bending or breaking the rules to subsidise loss making and the biggest splurge on football transfers ever in football history.....outrageous accusation....pure anti-Spurs bias...

....poor old pep....blah blah....they scored some nice goals blah blah blah
 
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Lilbaz

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not surprised, but still disappointed how many excuses you hear for their behaviour from football journalists and pundits.

blah, blah....yeah sure it seems the rules were broken....but oh david silva what a player blah blah...poor old pep...blah blah

They cheated. Full stop. All fully documented. If severe action isn't taken against them the game is dead.

on another note...why are people so gullible...."sponsorship" from Emirates airlines....I mean yeah right. The THFC equivalent would have been Spurs getting an eye watering shirt sponsorship, stadium and training ground naming rights deal from....ENIC. The ENIC stadium, ENIC on the shirts....and ENIC telling UEFA and the media at 100m per year...it's a sound business transaction, and oh no, no, no...got nothing to do with bending or breaking the rules to subsidise loss making and the biggest splurge on football transfers ever in football history.....outrageous accusation....pure anti-Spurs bias...

....poor old pep....blah blah....they scored some nice goals blah blah blah

You realise enic used to own 20% of autonomy? Just sayin.
 

brasil_spur

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Ok how did psg get round it when they spunked 200m on Neymar?

From memory Neymar paid his own release clause in the money he got from Qatar as their World Cup ambassador. Now obviously this is the PSG owners paying him indirectly to join them, however no money changed hands between PSG and Barcelona, so it will be very difficult to look at this from a FFP perspective, and will be a harder deal to dissect than the City ones.
 

Dov67

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That's where it starts getting really messy. There are a whole load of clubs that have suffered from Man City's cheating if you consider domestic Cups and clubs that were denied places in the CL and Europa League as well. It has massive implications with huge amounts of money involved. I don't see how City can afford to resolve all of that, even with their resources and compensation would have to be paid by them, not Sheik Mansoor. City are also well in the shit if they lose CL money since they pay colossal wages. They'll find it difficult to offload players to compensate too. At the end of the day I suspect the authorities will conclude that City are box office and won't have the balls to throw their full weight at them, more's the pity.

yup, incredibly complex. I seem to recall Sheffield Utd sued West Ham over the whole Tévez thing and got a large out of court settlement.

Would like to see City taken apart. Regardless of whether you agree with FFP or not, every other club played by those rules, even Chelsea who are another fake club.
 

WalkerboyUK

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It will definitely be interesting to see if any appeal results in a fine.
A fine is completely pointless as these sort of clubs with hundreds of millions in the bank will just pay it and move on like nothing happened. No-one benefits or suffers from a financial slap on the wrist.
A ban on the other hand does have a proper effect on the club.
 

George94

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From memory Neymar paid his own release clause in the money he got from Qatar as their World Cup ambassador. Now obviously this is the PSG owners paying him indirectly to join them, however no money changed hands between PSG and Barcelona, so it will be very difficult to look at this from a FFP perspective, and will be a harder deal to dissect than the City ones.

Isn't the issue with Man City more down to the fact their cheating the books rather than how much they're actually spending in transfer fees? They're essentially committing fraud.
 

Seafordian Spurs

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City and PSG are the natural and logical end result of football's free market fuckery. It's been a while in the making.
 

VegasII

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Lol if we’re lucky to see them relegated to league 2, they’ll be lucky enough to see Alan Pardew as manager.
 

WalkerboyUK

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Points deduction - yes
Automatic relegation - not a cat in hell's chance

Even the points deduction will be done in a way that it ultimately has no impact on their season.
 

Gb160

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If all of their players have similarly drafted contracts, which you’d expect, and they have a ban then I think they will lose quite a few players. No way those in their late 20s will stay. The club have under achieved already in the CL, they won’t want to not be involved in it at all, especially if they’re losing out on this kind of cash.


I read that it's pretty much been verbally agreed that all these payments will still happen as its through no fault of the players they will miss the CL.

I can see them just using stealth payments to fuck the rules over in future, which are very hard to police.
 
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