Livermore or Spend
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DiamondLites
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I think he can do a job alongside dembele should parker not be fit or for the last 20 of games. He will perhaps be better suited to our high energy pressing game than parker. At the start of the season he looked poor because him and sandro were both having to try and create more, which is neither's game, and feel he got some unfair criticism
Parker is the ideal guy to set in to the starting line up. our last player of the year, footballer of the year the season before.
We moan when youth players are not given the chance, here is that chance.
He is already a squad player and international. having Livermore step in when needed (and maybe take his chance to stay in the team) is like when Caulker gets selected, yet not many are opposed to him being in the team despite a few costly errors.
We moan when youth players are not given the chance, here is that chance.
He is already a squad player and international. having Livermore step in when needed (and maybe take his chance to stay in the team) is like when Caulker gets selected, yet not many are opposed to him being in the team despite a few costly errors.
RichSpur58
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M'Villa makes a lot of sense
idontgetit
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Sell Livermore and bring Holtby in. Sounds a bit cold but it's probably the best for Spurs
mpickard2087
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The one we should sell first is Hudd. Livermore needs to go out on loan and play PL footy every week and see if he develops. If he does then he comes back as a more plausible first team option or it ups his value if we do decide to sell him.
I'd bring in Holtby now, and then I'd maybe look at a loan deal if anyone was available or more likely just use the rest of the squad/youngsters to get by.
I'd bring in Holtby now, and then I'd maybe look at a loan deal if anyone was available or more likely just use the rest of the squad/youngsters to get by.
Spurs1960
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So get rid of players proven at the level, bring in someone unpoven (Holtby) and who is not a defensive midfielder and play unproven youngsters to get by, crazy.
Personally i'd rather finish 4th which would be highly unlikely in your senario if anything happened to Parker. You'd have to play a boy who has only played against boys in a mans game.
You'd have 2 defensive midfielders on the books injured and under 21's. Dembele is not a defensive midfielder.
Don't think you've thought it through.
schwinebikkje
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Keep Livermore, sell Hudd, retrain Siggurdson into a dm and spend the money on someone who can score goals.
mpickard2087
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Is Livermore proven at PL level, really?
Hudd is a waste of space and can go anytime as far as I'm concerned.
I should have expanded on the loan point, what I had in mind was an experienced player who could come in and cover/compete with Parker. I'm not too sure who is available though off the top of my head but this would be a good route to go down.
Even if we didn't get anyone other than Holtby in, I think we could cope. If anything did happen to Parker we have people such as Vertonghen who has played in midfield, it might mean we had to tighten up a bit and play a three man central midfield I think we would be ok. Plus, some of these youngsters are chomping at the bit and can't do much more to show they deserve a chance, having to play the odd one alongside internationals in the midfield wouldn't neccesarily be the total disaster that a lot always say it would be.
Plus we still don't know how long Sandro is actually out for...
As for not thinking things through, I'm thinking about the medium/long term when I say loan Livermore out, its more benefit having him playing week in, week out rather than sitting on our bench waiting for Parker to get injured.
Wheeler Dealer
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Livermore is a squad player and no more. Ryan Shawcross is also an international as is Stewart Downing, so this carries little credibility
Caulker is a talent and has massive potential, which unfortunately Livermore doesn't. This may be the reason many are less critical of Caulker's selection.
The same player who until a few weeks ago was part of the tightest defence in the league this season?
Someone else mentioned Lennon in the same bracket, he has been a starter pretty much since he signed for us, and was allowed to grow into his role in the team. My point is not every player in a successful team is world class, there are others which can do the job as an when required, saving millions on bringing in another player. I think Livermore is good enough to do that job. We need that uber player that is the difference between a 0-0 draw and a 1-0 win. thats my onion anyway
wizgell
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Jake Livermore, the new Jermaine Jenas?
Poor guy hasn't really put a foot wrong and he is being cast out by the majority. The idea that people have about the development of young players really baffles me. Just because someone plays a handful of first team games doesn't mean they are instantly a first team player. He is still developing as a player, he can do a job when required. So to get rid of him to then spend money on someone to come in and cover Sandro for an as yet unspecified period of time is jut ridiculous. Clueless, the lot of you!
Poor guy hasn't really put a foot wrong and he is being cast out by the majority. The idea that people have about the development of young players really baffles me. Just because someone plays a handful of first team games doesn't mean they are instantly a first team player. He is still developing as a player, he can do a job when required. So to get rid of him to then spend money on someone to come in and cover Sandro for an as yet unspecified period of time is jut ridiculous. Clueless, the lot of you!
dontcallme
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Parker alongside Dembele is still a rock-solid centre midfield.
If we get an injury then Livermore or Carroll will need to step up. Don't think a long-term signing in centre mid is a smart option right now and I believe we need to show faith in the players we have.
If we get an injury then Livermore or Carroll will need to step up. Don't think a long-term signing in centre mid is a smart option right now and I believe we need to show faith in the players we have.
mpickard2087
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This is the point I'm making. He isn't there yet, hasn't had much gametime at PL level and patently needs it to get accustomed to this level of football. What benefits him, and maybe the club, more then? Him sitting on the bench every week waiting for Parker to get crocked (and what happens when Sandro is back, he's in the stands again) or going out on loan and playing week in, week out and getting more experience? Then we can assess where he is at upon return.
Get rid permanantly, I'd say no. On loan, definate yes in my opinion its best for his development.... and as I said in my earlier post, look for some experienced cover for Parker/Sandro until the end of the season.
