Levy Regime = New Labour

[pablo73]

It has occurred to me recently that the parallels between Tottenham Hotspur under Daniel Levy's stewardship and New Labour are becoming alarmingly and unavoidably evident.

The amount of spin coming off the official site recently has been incredible and is an insult to the intelligence of the average spurs fan. Donna Cullen make Alastair Campbell look like a straight talking, 'what you see is what you get' kind of guy. It seems to me that, like New Labour, ENIC are more interested in putting a positive spin on the current dire situation than actually addressing the issues and problems that exist.

Like New Labour, ENIC came through on the back of an extremely disappointing regime and optimism was in the air. Things could only get better. and they did, for a while. But while Gordon Brown and Daniel Levy are both adept at turning a profit, neither seem to have the know how to guide their respective organisations through the turbulent current circumstances and immediate future. In fact, I can only think that they both have a 'self sabotage' element to their personalities. If this is not the case, then I find it hard to see how they could have fuc*ed things up more if they had purposely set out to do so.

Mr Levy, even more so than Mr Brown, you have tried and you have failed. Please do the honourable thing and stand aside.

 

[Shakermaker]

agree.

levy is a little shit stain and we need to get rid. he is a backstabbing **** of the highest proportions and will continue to mug us off until we stand up and do something about it

 

[Kendall]

Fucking hell anyone would think we were Leeds United

You little milquetoasts

 

[Shakermaker]

Fucking hell anyone would think we were Leeds United

You little milquetoasts

What is your problem? We see the problems we need to deal with them you are just a blind mole sniffing levys arsehole

 

[pablo73]

Fucking hell anyone would think we were Leeds United

You little milquetoasts

Of course we are not Leeds United but if your point of reference is always the worst case scenario, things will always be ok. Everything is relative. Anyone who cannot see that Levy's arrogant leadershi is now more of a hindrance than a help has their heads firmly buried in the sand.

 

[Spurs_Q8]

five seasons before Levy arrival:
1996-1997 - 10th
1997-1998 - 14th
1998-1999 - 11th League cup winners
1999-2000 - 10th
2000-2001 - 12th

Six full seasons with Levy:
2001-2002 9th, ( First Levy/Hoddle full season, League cup runners-up )
2002-2003 10th
2003-2004 14th ( Hoddle sacking, continental system for the following yesr )
2004-2005 9th ( Martin Jol took over from Santini, we were competitive for top 7th until last two games )
2005-2006 5th ( we were 4th until lst game, best league since 1989 )
2006-2007 5th ( another good finish in league, lost in last 8 in UEFA cup, against champions Sevilla
2007-2008 11th League cup winners
2008-2009 Now

 

[bern]

Fucking hell anyone would think we were Leeds United

You little milquetoasts

whats one of them?

 

[Banjo]

five seasons before Levy arrival:
1996-1997 - 10th
1997-1998 - 14th
1998-1999 - 11th League cup winners
1999-2000 - 10th
2000-2001 - 12th

Six full seasons with Levy:
2001-2002 9th, ( First Levy/Hoddle full season, League cup runners-up )
2002-2003 10th
2003-2004 14th ( Hoddle sacking, continental system for the following yesr )
2004-2005 9th ( Martin Jol took over from Santini, we were competitive for top 7th until last two games )
2005-2006 5th ( we were 4th until lst game, best league since 1989 )
2006-2007 5th ( another good finish in league, lost in last 8 in UEFA cup, against champions Sevilla
2007-2008 11th League cup winners
2008-2009 Now

Not quite sure what your point is. But I can see that last season O7/08 we are pretty much where we were in 98/99. Now we are even worse off having sacked the manager (Jol) who got us 5th twice in a row and dismantled what was basically his team that won the CC last year. Thus, to me Levy's record looks pretty shoddy, if he's not done better by the end of the season HE (Mr. Scapegoat others) should be the one to go!

 

[pablo73]

five seasons before Levy arrival:
1996-1997 - 10th
1997-1998 - 14th
1998-1999 - 11th League cup winners
1999-2000 - 10th
2000-2001 - 12th

Six full seasons with Levy:
2001-2002 9th, ( First Levy/Hoddle full season, League cup runners-up )
2002-2003 10th
2003-2004 14th ( Hoddle sacking, continental system for the following yesr )
2004-2005 9th ( Martin Jol took over from Santini, we were competitive for top 7th until last two games )
2005-2006 5th ( we were 4th until lst game, best league since 1989 )
2006-2007 5th ( another good finish in league, lost in last 8 in UEFA cup, against champions Sevilla
2007-2008 11th League cup winners
2008-2009 Now

thanks for illustrating my point. The only time Levy's regime improved on previous year's was with the one man in charge that he didn't pick. Two clubs in the Premiership have the continental system, Tottenham and Newcastle. Need I say more? In any case, this thread was primarily to highlight the disgusting amout of spin that is coming out of the Tottenham PR machine - I cannot be the only one who is sick of it...?

 

[thebenjamin]

five seasons before Levy arrival:
1996-1997 - 10th
1997-1998 - 14th
1998-1999 - 11th League cup winners
1999-2000 - 10th
2000-2001 - 12th

Six full seasons with Levy:
2001-2002 9th, ( First Levy/Hoddle full season, League cup runners-up )
2002-2003 10th
2003-2004 14th ( Hoddle sacking, continental system for the following yesr )
2004-2005 9th ( Martin Jol took over from Santini, we were competitive for top 7th until last two games )
2005-2006 5th ( we were 4th until lst game, best league since 1989 )
2006-2007 5th ( another good finish in league, lost in last 8 in UEFA cup, against champions Sevilla
2007-2008 11th League cup winners
2008-2009 Now

Is being marginally better than one of the most awful periods in our history enough to mark Levy as a success?

 

[polski sklep]

What is your problem? We see the problems we need to deal with them you are just a blind mole sniffing levys arsehole

What's your problem? We saw the problems with Jol, so we dealt with them. You are just a blind mole, sniffing Jol's arsehole.

 

[SelbYido]

Daniel Levy turned a profit. The Treasury, under Gordon Brown, accrued massive debt in order to fund huge increases in spending. Do your fucking research. ;-)

 

[SpurSince57]

If only pablo kept up more he'd have read numerous similar comparisons from me and others over the past couple of years.

Welcome back to the forum, Rip.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

It has occurred to me recently that the parallels between Tottenham Hotspur under Daniel Levy's stewardship and New Labour are becoming alarmingly and unavoidably evident.

The amount of spin coming off the official site recently has been incredible and is an insult to the intelligence of the average spurs fan. Donna Cullen make Alastair Campbell look like a straight talking, 'what you see is what you get' kind of guy. It seems to me that, like New Labour, ENIC are more interested in putting a positive spin on the current dire situation than actually addressing the issues and problems that exist.

Like New Labour, ENIC came through on the back of an extremely disappointing regime and optimism was in the air. Things could only get better. and they did, for a while. But while Gordon Brown and Daniel Levy are both adept at turning a profit, neither seem to have the know how to guide their respective organisations through the turbulent current circumstances and immediate future. In fact, I can only think that they both have a 'self sabotage' element to their personalities. If this is not the case, then I find it hard to see how they could have fuc*ed things up more if they had purposely set out to do so.

Mr Levy, even more so than Mr Brown, you have tried and you have failed. Please do the honourable thing and stand aside.

So delivering you a trophy, the two best finishes in the prem, The most exciting squads we've had for 20 years, playing the best football for 20 years, Santini, Jol, Ramos, Arnesen, Comolli, the most profitable club outside the CL, players like Naybet, Berbatov, Davids, Carrick, Gomes, Modric, Woodgate, Hutton, Lee, Bale, GDS, Kanoute, Defoe, Bentley, Pavlyuchenko.

I think you are mistaking good stewardship of a football club with losing a few football games. Easy mistake to make if you failed how to blow up football o-level at school.

 

[Shakermaker]

What's your problem? We saw the problems with Jol, so we dealt with them. You are just a blind mole, sniffing Jol's arsehole.

Get rid of your stupid avatar. You seem like one of these morons who read the Sun and watch the Sunday Supplement and treat them like the Bible.

 

[Banjo]

So delivering you a trophy, the two best finishes in the prem, The most exciting squads we've had for 20 years, playing the best football for 20 years, Santini, Jol, Ramos, Arnesen, Comolli, the most profitable club outside the CL, players like Naybet, Berbatov, Davids, Carrick, Gomes, Modric, Woodgate, Hutton, Lee, Bale, GDS, Kanoute, Defoe, Bentley, Pavlyuchenko.

I think you are mistaking good stewardship of a football club with losing a few football games. Easy mistake to make if you failed how to blow up football o-level at school.

Bus-Conducdor - whatever you're on I'd like some of it.

Just your, partial, list of head coaches and DoF shows what is wrong with Levy, he is a serial sacker who uses others as scapegoats. His revolving door of DoF and head coaches has lead to continual set of changes in players - SS57 noted 40 in the last 4 years for the first team squad. Just as the list of players he has sold and failed to replace, Carrick, Keane Berbatov, Kanoute, Defoe - shows his inadequecies.

In terms of results/position Spurs last year were where they had been 9 years ago. 11th in the league and CC winners. 'The Two Best Finishes in the Prem' arguement is facile as Levy then sacked the coach responsible (after Jol had had only two complete years in charge) and dismantled Jol's side over the summer - which effectively had been the team that won the CC last year.

Come Feb. 09 Levy will have been in charge 8 years. He has not given senior coaching level staff more than 2 to 2 1/2 years. It's time he went and people stopped apologizing for the fool.

 

[pablo73]

If only pablo kept up more he'd have read numerous similar comparisons from me and others over the past couple of years.

Welcome back to the forum, Rip.

different Pablo I think old boy

 

[pablo73]

Daniel Levy turned a profit. The Treasury, under Gordon Brown, accrued massive debt in order to fund huge increases in spending. Do your fucking research. ;-)

ahem...well, I never said it was a flawless comparison...

 

[pablo73]

Bus-Conducdor - whatever you're on I'd like some of it.

Just your, partial, list of head coaches and DoF shows what is wrong with Levy, he is a serial sacker who uses others as scapegoats. His revolving door of DoF and head coaches has lead to continual set of changes in players - SS57 noted 40 in the last 4 years for the first team squad. Just as the list of players he has sold and failed to replace, Carrick, Keane Berbatov, Kanoute, Defoe - shows his inadequecies.

In terms of results/position Spurs last year were where they had been 9 years ago. 11th in the league and CC winners. 'The Two Best Finishes in the Prem' arguement is facile as Levy then sacked the coach responsible (after Jol had had only two complete years in charge) and dismantled Jol's side over the summer - which effectively had been the team that won the CC last year.

Come Feb. 09 Levy will have been in charge 8 years. He has not given senior coaching level staff more than 2 to 2 1/2 years. It's time he went and people stopped apologizing for the fool.

spot on.

 

[TopSpurMan]

five seasons before Levy arrival:
1996-1997 - 10th
1997-1998 - 14th
1998-1999 - 11th League cup winners
1999-2000 - 10th
2000-2001 - 12th

Six full seasons with Levy:
2001-2002 9th, ( First Levy/Hoddle full season, League cup runners-up )
2002-2003 10th
2003-2004 14th ( Hoddle sacking, continental system for the following yesr )
2004-2005 9th ( Martin Jol took over from Santini, we were competitive for top 7th until last two games )
2005-2006 5th ( we were 4th until lst game, best league since 1989 )
2006-2007 5th ( another good finish in league, lost in last 8 in UEFA cup, against champions Sevilla
2007-2008 11th League cup winners
2008-2009 Now

quite right
average position before - for 5 seasons 11th
average position after - for 5 seasons 9th

he has has a huge effect on the league position (not) but you look at the balance sheet and you can see the real effect -

we are one of the most profitable clubs in the league but are getting nowhere - to move to the next level we need to have a couple of seasons of cost not profit - the cost will be returned if we hit the right level - remember right up to 2005 there was no waiting list for season tickets at all - it was the 2005-2006 and 2006-2007 that changed that for us -

if we get another 10/11 spot finish that on current form would be good then that queue for season tickets will drop again -

levy needs to see the bigger picture and make a serious bid to take spurs to the next level - that means not selling our best players even if they want to move - ronaldo had his heart set on RM but where is he?

You build on what you have not demolish it every season to turn a profit - we spent -10m this transfer window - that was good business - not necessarily good for the club