Levy/ENIC Discussion in here!

[alfie103]

We went from mid table team to regularly qualifying for Europe and even reaching a champions league final. So yeah the football improved.

We were generally shit under Sugar.

The club existed before Alan Sugar owned it.

 

[thebenjamin]

Exactly this and this is what i've (and everyone else) always said is holding us back and also having been close to it, its even more frustrating. I think he must know there is money coming in or being put aside or else why say all of this as he's making a rod for his own back otherwise. We need top players and not just 1 but at least 3 and we need to pay the wages to match then we can go on a sustained push for what he wants. For all his faults, DL is genuine in wanting us to succeed and thats not all money related and i'm hoping VV finally gives us the internal clarity and professionalism that MC and DC didnt help at all with! Also we need JL or the trust to 'benefact' us with his wealth as that is the number 1 hindrance to us going to the next level now as it has in the past and is more relevant than ever now unless DL knows there are funds coming in or why else mention that we want to win the league?

Well said. He surely can't with a straight face be saying our ambition is limitless, we want to win the league and the CL -- but by buying 18 year olds and having the 8th largest wage bill in the PL. The teams with the best players win leagues. The best players get paid the most. It's ever been thus. If you want to win, you have to pay for it.

 

[mil1lion]

Two takeaways:

-Vinai’s fingernails are somewhat Nosferatu-like.

- Given Levy may actually be Nosferatu there’s a good chance Vinai has been bitten by Daniel and therefore is his familiar.

Do with this what you will, but the tongue firmly inserted in Daniel’s anal cavity for the last couple of minutes makes me lean towards this theory verging towards fact.

Feels more like Vinai is Guillermo and Levy is Nandor the relentless who has promised to make Vinai a vampire but never actually will

 

[robotsonic]

The club existed before Alan Sugar owned it.

But they bought it from him in the state that it was in.

 

[pablo73]

Vinai literally said he will be heading up the football side. It's just he's also working closely with Levy but that's normal in any form of business. What's good is that he said he challenges Levy and doesn't agree with a lot so let's hope he gets his way more often than not.

The question is how much power will Vinai actually have. If Levy is still in overall charge and has the final say on major footballing decisions I can only see this ending in tears of frustration.

As much as Levy may want and intend to step back I don't think he is capable. Time will tell I guess, Vinai certainly seems to talk a good game anyway.

 

[alfie103]

But they bought it from him in the state that it was in.

That's true and he has done a much better job than Sugar but Tottenham was seen as one of the biggest and most successful teams in the country before so it isn't like the Sugar era was a reflection of how we always did.

 

[jackson]

The question is how much power will Vinai actually have. If Levy is still in overall charge and has the final say on major footballing decisions I can only see this ending in tears of frustration.

As much as Levy may want and intend to step back I don't think he is capable. Time will tell I guess, Vinai certainly seems to talk a good game anyway.

Within the first 1min of the interview, Vinai says "we'll be working on everything together and there certainly won't be anything that happens at the club that we're not joined at the hip on"

so ultimately no change but another voice in the room hopefully better than that of DC, but clearly Levy still the pupet master.

 

[Styopa]

But they bought it from him in the state that it was in.

True, but by the same token, they’ve benefited massively from the Premier League boom. ENIC’s tenure at Tottenham has coincided with an era of unprecedented financial growth across English football—growth they did not create but certainly capitalised on.

Back in 1992–93, the league’s first TV deal was worth just £191 million over five years—about £38 million a year. Today, the domestic deal alone is worth £5.1 billion over three years, or around £1.7 billion annually. Once you include global rights from the U.S., Asia, and beyond, the total media package tops £10 billion—a 45-fold increase in annual broadcasting revenue.

Club revenues have soared in step. The top 20 clubs made about £170 million combined in 1992–93; now it’s over £6.1 billion. Tottenham alone brings in more than £500 million a year, while clubs like City and United earn over £700 million—more than the entire league did in its first season.

And valuations have exploded too. Few clubs were worth more than £50 million back then, but today the biggest are valued at £3 to £5 billion. Shirt sponsorships that used to pull in £1 million a year now top £50 million in some cases.

So yes, ENIC has overseen big improvements at Spurs—the new stadium, training ground, and steady top-six finishes. But they’ve also been in the right place at the right time. The club’s value and revenues have soared largely because the entire league has exploded. Their strategy—cautious spending, financial control—has kept us competitive and stable. But you can’t ignore the feeling that with just a bit more ambition at key moments, we could’ve done more than just ride the wave.

 

[$hoguN]

He can't win because of the way the football team is run. It has nothing to do with whether he does or doesn't say something. Start showing a bit of ambition on the football pitch and he might get a win.

I wanted to win the Euromillions last night and had more chance of doing it because I bought a ticket for it.

We have no chance of winning the Premier League or Champions League because Levy will not pay the wages for the calibre of players needed, therefore we haven't bought a ticket for either of those competitions.

yet we have made a CL final and should have won the PL twice under Pochettino

 

[mil1lion]

The question is how much power will Vinai actually have. If Levy is still in overall charge and has the final say on major footballing decisions I can only see this ending in tears of frustration.

As much as Levy may want and intend to step back I don't think he is capable. Time will tell I guess, Vinai certainly seems to talk a good game anyway.

Absolutely, at least we have heard from him. I can't recall an interview like it with Munn. Also I guess it depends on the feeling among other board members. Really interested to see if we get Paratici back and if that also puts Levy more in the back seat. What's at least encouraging is that Levy seems to trust a lot in Paratici and possibly Vinai as well. So I think it's just a case of them being given the budget and parameters to work in and left to pick the players. I really don't think Levy will involved himself in that side, just sign off on the financials.

 

[jackson]

Felt like a 'party political broadcast' although at least a change in the messaging and now actually saying 'winning' instead of 'competing', let's see if they back it up.

 

[pablo73]

But they bought it from him in the state that it was in.

The sugar era has become the ownership equivalent of Harry's 2 points from 8 games.

It was a temporary situation that didn't reflect the club's overall history or the bigger picture generally.

 

[jurgen11]

why the bleeding hell are we talking about Alan Sugar ...watch out or you'll have Razor Ruddock camped on your driveway

 

[AustrianHotspur]

This has become like Harry's 2 points from 8 games. It was a temporary situation that didn't reflect the club's overall history or the bigger picture generally.

wasn't that Ramos?

 

[pablo73]

wasn't that Ramos?

It was Ramos but Harry was the one who banged on about ir for years on end to prove what a great job he had done.

 

[AustrianHotspur]

It was Ramos but Harry was the one who banged on about ir for years on end to prove what a great job he had done.

Ah, sorry! Thank you for explaining it. Didn't get the context - will read more carefully in the future.

 

[Styopa]

The sugar era has become the ownership equivalent of Harry's 2 points from 8 games.

It was a temporary situation that didn't reflect the club's overall history or the bigger picture generally.

I suspect the Sugar years are a key touchpoint for a lot of people on this forum because that’s when they were growing up. Most fans in their late thirties and early forties remember watching Spurs in the ’90s, and then ENIC came along and things really started to improve. It feels like only a small number of fans here actually have memories of the club from the ’70s or ’80s.

 

[muppetman]

This. We we will ever see that interview between Jordan and Levy.

In May, Jordan said that FIFA didn't allow an interview between him and Wenger to be released because they either didn't like the questions or answers. Watch the video below. I believe a similar thing might have happened with the Levy interview.

I try my best to avoid TalkSport so haven't watched this, but what on earth is going on with the colour of his face?



Hulk smash?

 

[Stamford]

That's true and he has done a much better job than Sugar but Tottenham was seen as one of the biggest and most successful teams in the country before so it isn't like the Sugar era was a reflection of how we always did.

Sugar owner the club for 9 years, this can't be used to continually defend levy.

He's been here for a quarter of a century. I would love to see us win the league. Spend the money from this amazing stadium.

we have the champions league money, we have the stadium breaking records, most of the big earners have left. This summer has to be huge.

 

[tototoner]

yet we have made a CL final and should have won the PL twice under Pochettino

We have gone backwards since 2019 while everyone else has improved