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Colonel_Klinck

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May 19, 2004
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You can watch the four incidents in question on the SkySports app. The first one looks dodgy - he makes two bookable challenges within seconds of one another. The next intro incidents (vs Villa and Bournemouth) look like attempts to play the ball.The final incident (handball at Bournemouth) is dodgy as it’s a Maradona-esque handball in the final seconds of the game and near the halfway line.

He might successfully argue his innocence regarding two of the incidents but the first one especially (vs Leeds) looks like he was intentionally fouling the opposition.

That second one he's not remotely near the ball and he knows he's not going to be near the ball. If it was in the final 1/3rd you could say it was a tactical foul but not where he was. The 3rd could just be a bad tackle.
 

Danny1

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You would think that they have got some solid evidence to go so open about it. He will be a lucky boy if he kicks a ball in professional football within the next few years.
 

Gb160

Well done boys. Good process
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To me match fixing means deliberately allowing your opponent to win

Getting a yellow card shouldn't be considered the same although I hope he gets a life ban ofcourse
Yeah they’re not the same thing. Spot fixing isn’t directly trying to change the outcome of a game.
Both dodgy as fuck though and should be treated very harshly.
 
Jan 28, 2011
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I think they should ban him from playing football for five years.

The only question is whether they start that ban from now, or whether they backdate it to include the last two seasons he's had playing for Moyes.
 

Hazelton

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I think they should ban him from playing football for five years.

The only question is whether they start that ban from now, or whether they backdate it to include the last two seasons he's had playing for Moyes.
Should take the trophy off West Ham too, since Paqueta assisted the winning goal and shouldn't have been playing.

Glad we came to a fair and reasonable conclusion to this debacle.
 

PCozzie

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Have to say, on the face of it what Paqueta has done is congruent with what Kynan Isaac did at Stratford. That resulted in a 10 year ban, for one offence. There were aggravating circumstances in that case in that he refused to cooperate by handing over telephone and internet records, but while that will have added time onto the ban, wouldn't have doubled it for example. Paqueta really could be looking at an almost career ending ban if the FA are consistent with their punishment.
 

Hazelton

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No way he gets the same level of punishment as Kynan Isaac. He should do, but his player profile will prevent that. I reckon one or two years. Anything under 10 and Isaac realistically should take the FA to court.
 

BENNO

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Jul 11, 2005
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I don't know if we've been linked with him but with all this Paquetta stuff it's almost certain West Ham will now need to sell another 'big' player, partly to help the new manager rebuild an aged squad but also due to PSR. Think it was widely assumed Paquetta would be the big sale to finance this.

Now that isn't happening , that only leaves Bowen and Kudus who'd make decent fees, and of the two, Kudus would be massively favourite to be the one that goes.

He'll cost a fair bit, but not as much as if they'd sold Paquetta and had that money to rebuild.

Any chance we make a play for this hugely talented winger ???
 

lincspurs

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Jan 19, 2011
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I don't know if we've been linked with him but with all this Paquetta stuff it's almost certain West Ham will now need to sell another 'big' player, partly to help the new manager rebuild an aged squad but also due to PSR. Think it was widely assumed Paquetta would be the big sale to finance this.

Now that isn't happening , that only leaves Bowen and Kudus who'd make decent fees, and of the two, Kudus would be massively favourite to be the one that goes.

He'll cost a fair bit, but not as much as if they'd sold Paquetta and had that money to rebuild.

Any chance we make a play for this hugely talented winger ???
No idea, but I for one would be delighted if we could get Kudus.
 

teok

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Aug 11, 2011
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I was just reading up on his case:

"Paquetá denies wrongdoing and any knowledge of the suspicious bets, which have been traced to Paquetá Island, off the coast of Rio de Janiero."

🤔
 

Jenko

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Mar 18, 2004
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If banned by FA assume he can play abroad? Or not?
I'd ban him from European football and let him go back to South America in shame. He'll always have the shame if it hanging over his head....

...... having played for West ham I mean.
 

yankspurs

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I can't stress enough just how stupid both West Ham & Lopetegui are. Everyone knew something would happen with him eventually. The initial rumblings are why City didn't move for him last summer. They really just thought nothing would happen? How do you not plan for this eventuality that was always likely? Will be hilarious to see Lopetegui leave again before a ball is kicked though
 

muppetman

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With so much betting sponsorship swilling around football, I'd be surprised if the FA don't treat this quite harshly.
 
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