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tototoner

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robotsonic

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Probably suits the rest of the league if they persist with it to be honest, as they're treading water at best and can't see where they're going to kick on from. It's not an absolute binfire that justifies sacking the guy at the moment, but clearly there is no progress whatsoever either. Hopefully they just stagnate from here for another year as it gives ourselves a bit more time to get a squad together and consign them to memory.
 

rossdapep

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My brother is still defending Ten Hag and wants them to stick by him as he is sick of changing coach the players winning.

I think he has a point and they do probably need a real freshness about them.

Issue with that is that Ten Hag's signings have been so underwhelming and performances so boring it's hard to see what he is doing and he may make things worse.

I'd probably be tempted to give him next window and see if they can rid of a few and see change.

Risky though.

Although it may be more riskier to let some of those players off the hook
 

RuskyM

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It’d be easier to get behind Ten Hag if their best player in recent months hadn’t been Harry Maguire, who he attempted to freeze out. Meanwhile, there’s a very expensive roster of players that he’s personally picked who are either downgrades or completely anonymous. It just doesn’t suggest a manager who’s making great decisions and I don’t think he could have too many complaints.

I don’t doubt there’s severe problems with the dressing room but to me the biggest problem they have is simply being Manchester United; the best thing for them would be letting things just happen for a few years whilst young players are bought through, they’re clearly there (hey, didn’t a guy at Ajax do that a few years ago?). However, they’re too big to be seen to do that, and so you’ve got this lumbering colossus that has to keep up appearances and buy expensive players to compete when the best thing for it would be to just stop and address the arse falling out of it.
 

rossdapep

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It’d be easier to get behind Ten Hag if their best player in recent months hadn’t been Harry Maguire, who he attempted to freeze out. Meanwhile, there’s a very expensive roster of players that he’s personally picked who are either downgrades or completely anonymous. It just doesn’t suggest a manager who’s making great decisions and I don’t think he could have too many complaints.

I don’t doubt there’s severe problems with the dressing room but to me the biggest problem they have is simply being Manchester United; the best thing for them would be letting things just happen for a few years whilst young players are bought through, they’re clearly there (hey, didn’t a guy at Ajax do that a few years ago?). However, they’re too big to be seen to do that, and so you’ve got this lumbering colossus that has to keep up appearances and buy expensive players to compete when the best thing for it would be to just stop and address the arse falling out of it.
That is the biggest red flag they should have.

All of his signigns have either been poor, had some flashes or gone from decent form to poor form in months.

I think if some of his new signings were performing well and they were constantly been held back by players who have been there a long time, you could easily make a case for him to stay.

But when your own signings are not even showing progression then that is worrying.

Bit like Conte last season. We signed Richarlison, Perisic and Lenglet who all were supposed to be Conte fits yet they all played well below expectations. Especially Perisic who i was expecting to score 10 plus goals and have a lot of contribution.
 

allatsea

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Very poor judge of a player and, now he seems to have lost the dressing room, he has to go.
 

spanishspur

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It’d be easier to get behind Ten Hag if their best player in recent months hadn’t been Harry Maguire, who he attempted to freeze out.
Meanwhile, there’s a very expensive roster of players that he’s personally picked who are either downgrades or completely anonymous. It just doesn’t suggest a manager who’s making great decisions and I don’t think he could have too many complaints.

I don’t doubt there’s severe problems with the dressing room but to me the biggest problem they have is simply being Manchester United; the best thing for them would be letting things just happen for a few years whilst young players are bought through, they’re clearly there (hey, didn’t a guy at Ajax do that a few years ago?). However, they’re too big to be seen to do that, and so you’ve got this lumbering colossus that has to keep up appearances and buy expensive players to compete when the best thing for it would be to just stop and address the arse falling out of it.
He also tried to sell Mctominay in the summer who is one of their best performers. In addition only tried him higher up the pitch after Scotland did.
Does not reflect at all well on ten hag.
Almost forgot he also made one of the biggest moaners in the league his captain.
 

Danny1

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Yet another hyped up foreign manager who everyone believed was the second coming. There have been hundreds of these in the Premier League era.

The biggest worry for Man Utd fans is the fact that they have zero style of play. He has been there for long enough now for his team to show what they are doing in training. It’s no different to Lampard and Gerrard where their teams just had zero identity. Almost like “put the players out there and hope for the best”.

There are some great tacticians down in the Championship who get their teams playing very well but these guys don’t get a look in.

In my opinion, Man Utd could do an awful lot worse than appoint the current Ipswich manager McKenna. Once a youth team player with us but he was at Man Utd as a coach / youth team manager for 5 years so knows the club. He has got Ipswich playing incredible football, looking like they will have back to back promotions aswell. Someone like him deserves just as much of a shot as a guy that did well in the Dutch league.

However, this is United and they won’t. They will go for someone who is a “name” and will ultimately fail yet again. What that club needs more than ever right now, is a football coach who improves their team.
 
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