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Frozen_Waffles

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Another good, but depressing, read from Barney Ronay:

Great article that, also the wider point of the other "tigers for tea" and the effect that will have.

I also read about a US real estate company buying properties to rent in the UK this morning, I mean what do we have left, the bingo halls?

If dodgy foreign businesses own our land, our houses and our footballing institutions as well as our companies then we are in trouble. With enough control they can change the laws (cough city cough).
 

Guernman

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This.

Just a year ago everyone on here were clamouring for new owners. Forgetting completely about the type of owners we could get. 777, Wolves style, Saudis, the Glazers, Clearlake capital etc....

Just so we could plough money into the first team squad. But there in lies the bigger problem and why City will probably get away with it. Money talks.

People's self interest and greed will win over ethical and moral arguments everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.
I think it is a lot more nuanced than that though.

I'm very concerned about new ownership, but if it is going to happen I can understand people wanting oil money ahead of US private equity etc. You're not going to find any ethical money making its way to premier league club ownership, so fans are perfectly entitled to want ownership that is intent on winning rather than on sucking the revenue's from our club.

And you can want oil money at your club and STILL want clear rules governing the league, and which restrict spending to somehow mirror the financial size and viability of any given club.

Whoever our future owners may be, we can all agree that the league itself needs to have rigorous rules that ensure the sustainability, competitiveness and viability of the sport.
 

Monkey boy

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Absolutely, but it's really a matter of degree - City, Chelsea, PSG etc have been playing by different rules for a long time now.

I can’t believe how much Chelsea have got away with for the past 20 years. They’ve spent billions of dirty Russian money with nobody batting an eyelid and questioning how they have been able to do so whilst hoovering up trophy after trophy. Sorry my father in law is a Chelsea fan and continually gives me shit about us not winning anything so i would love nothing more than for them to get exposed and put back in their box. There was hope at the beginning of the year that could happen or when Roman got kicked out but it seems that somehow they are going to escape it all and come out smelling of roses once again.
 

Led's Zeppelin

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I can’t believe how much Chelsea have got away with for the past 20 years. They’ve spent billions of dirty Russian money with nobody batting an eyelid and questioning how they have been able to do so whilst hoovering up trophy after trophy. Sorry my father in law is a Chelsea fan and continually gives me shit about us not winning anything so i would love nothing more than for them to get exposed and put back in their box. There was hope at the beginning of the year that could happen or when Roman got kicked out but it seems that somehow they are going to escape it all and come out smelling of roses once again.


It’s sickening isn’t it?

Because it’s so crooked and rotten to the core, yet they behave as though they’ve done something to be proud of.
 

Dakes

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This is the part that will be most interesting to watch. City will probably be found guilty with no outside interference, but the government could step in and influence the outcome. What happens in that case? Do rival clubs just accept that City are cleared?

This is going to be extremely interesting to follow.
 
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Trix

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This is the part that will be most interesting to watch. City will probably be found guilty with no outside interference, but the government could step in and influence the outcome. When happens in that case? Do rival clubs just accept that City are cleared?

This is going to be extremely interesting to follow.
The government they have allegedly been speaking to about this situation won't be the government in power by the time the verdict comes in.
 

Westmorlandspur

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This is the problem of having nation states own clubs. It’s not just the money,it’s the influence that these countries can have. The government pushed through the Saudi purchase of Newcastle.
Abu Dhabi are,reportedly, about to make a 25bn investment in the uk.
No doubt they will have been talking to the government. I wish this bunch of snake charmers would just sod off and go back to camel racing. Slowly knackering our football
 

absolute bobbins

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This is the problem of having nation states own clubs. It’s not just the money,it’s the influence that these countries can have. The government pushed through the Saudi purchase of Newcastle.
Abu Dhabi are,reportedly, about to make a 25bn investment in the uk.
No doubt they will have been talking to the government. I wish this bunch of snake charmers would just sod off and go back to camel racing. Slowly knackering our football
No, the government didn’t. It only went through after the Premier League demanded and Saudi State TV acquiesced to a demand to cease pirating premier league football broadcasts from Qatar.
 

spursfan77

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Great article that, also the wider point of the other "tigers for tea" and the effect that will have.

I also read about a US real estate company buying properties to rent in the UK this morning, I mean what do we have left, the bingo halls?

If dodgy foreign businesses own our land, our houses and our footballing institutions as well as our companies then we are in trouble. With enough control they can change the laws (cough city cough).

That’s been happening for about two centuries!
 

Wheeler Dealer

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This is the part that will be most interesting to watch. City will probably be found guilty with no outside interference, but the government could step in and influence the outcome. What happens in that case? Do rival clubs just accept that City are cleared?

This is going to be extremely interesting to follow.
It has all the hallmarks for leading to a mutiny. If City go unpunished for the 115 breaches, other clubs should all collaborate and refuse to play them. It will need all clubs to agree to this. if this happens, then carnage will prevail.
 

Wheeler Dealer

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This is the problem of having nation states own clubs. It’s not just the money,it’s the influence that these countries can have. The government pushed through the Saudi purchase of Newcastle.
Abu Dhabi are,reportedly, about to make a 25bn investment in the uk.
No doubt they will have been talking to the government. I wish this bunch of snake charmers would just sod off and go back to camel racing. Slowly knackering our football
How long before the Saudi's start flexing their muscle?
 

elfy

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Led's Zeppelin

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For once - I think the league hold more cards here.

Saudi want to be part of the league, more than the league want Saudi to be a member.

Only if they’re allowed to remain on pretty-much their terms though. The league is only attractive if they can dominate it.

And the league won’t have the stomach or money to fight them with the ultimate sanctions of expulsion or suspension or anything that prevents them from dominating the competition, so in reality the league doesn’t hold the cards that matter.
 

Tiberius Gracchus

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I popped over to blue moon to see what those clowns are saying. It's worse than I expected:

Finally seems we've had enough of playing nice. It's gonna get spicy from here on out boys

they wanted a war and they got one

Unbelievable isn't it. They are not even trying to hide it anymore. Fucking cartel.

It really does also show how opposition fans are thick as shit, They genuinely reckon Manchester City is the problem here...Wow.

id be quite happy at this stage if the teams along with city pull the plug on the PL, strike,boycott or whatever you want to call it, the PL is crumbling from within, its at bursting point with corruption and i seriously think they will self destruct before the season starts

CFG are the biggest investors in the city of Manchester and the most important partner the local authority has got. Thousands of jobs and hundreds of businesses are being put under threat beacuse of a politically-motivated witchunt by a corrupt cartel and a racist UK media

Feels like the Premier League version of Brexit.
 
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