Let's All Laugh At... Let's all laugh at Chelsea thread

[talkshowhost86]

I am sorry, but all these PSR and FFP rules are bull***. It merely allows lawyers to make money.

It's definitely becoming a question of who can afford the best legal advice which is absolutely crap.

And I say that as a lawyer.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Is it true that the clubs can afford better lawyers than the Premier League , in the Forest case the following lawyers opposed each other .
So does Nick de Marco charge more than Jane Mulcahy , if De Marc does charge more he still lost his argument and both KC's come from the same chambers , Blackstone Chambers in The Temple London. Personally I believe the PL are represented just as well as any of the clubs.

Jane Mulcahy KC and Mark Vinall (instructed by Linklaters) acted for the Premier League; Nick De Marco KC and Tom Leary (instructed by Squire Patton Boggs) acted for the Club.

 

[talkshowhost86]

Is it true that the clubs can afford better lawyers than the Premier League , in the Forest case the following lawyers opposed each other .
So does Nick de Marco charge more than Jane Mulcahy , if De Marc does charge more he still lost his argument and both KC's come from the same chambers , Blackstone Chambers in The Temple London. Personally I believe the PL are represented just as well as any of the clubs.

Jane Mulcahy KC and Mark Vinall (instructed by Linklaters) acted for the Premier League; Nick De Marco KC and Tom Leary (instructed by Squire Patton Boggs) acted for the Club.

I think the issue is that they can afford them for longer.

 

[PCozzie]

OK, he doesn't play for Villa or Everton, so there's probably no chance of this one going through.

 

[Cornpattbuck]

How many players can you have in one squad?! Is Boehly pushing for interchangeable offensive, defensive, special teams etc?

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

How many players can you have in one squad?! Is Boehly pushing for interchangeable offensive, defensive, special teams etc?

To be fair - too many people get too caught up in media links - most of which are complete bollocks,.

If Spurs signed everyone they have been linked to this summer, We'd have more players on the team we can't register than players we can register.

 

[felmani26]

To be fair - too many people get too caught up in media links - most of which are complete bollocks,.

If Spurs signed everyone they have been linked to this summer, We'd have more players on the team we can't register than players we can register.

Looks a goer

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Looks a goer

What do you think the odds are that Boehly thinks he is getting a cut-rate deal on Marc Guehi?

 

[Cornpattbuck]

What do you think the odds are that Boehly thinks he is getting a cut-rate deal on Marc Guehi?

Thought the same.

 

[spurs9]

If we're going to allow Chelsea to play human centipede with Villa & Everton like this, then just drop City's charges now, allow them to buy Savio straight up & United to buy Todibo & end all the PRS & FFP rules. Straight up money laundering:

 

[robotsonic]

I think the issue is that they can afford them for longer.

Not sure on that. Premier League revenue every year is in the £billions. They could pay lawyers until the heat death of the universe.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

They could pay lawyers until the heat death of the universe.

From where I am sitting in the middle of America - that could be any day now.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

I think the issue is that they can afford them for longer

What do you base that on ? , the Premier League has 20 shareholders i.e the clubs themselves plus one special share/vote held by the FA. I am sure somewhere in the PL rules there are rules that legal costs will be borne by the shareholders in event of them being sued which is the case with Man C . Man C are effectively taking action against the other 19 clubs and if they win then prize money handed out by the PL to clubs may have to be reduced if they incur large legal costs.
Also these cases are not dragged through the civil courts so there are not endless appeals, if you look at the UEFA case against Man C, apart from a 10 million Euro fine CAS also awarded some legal costs against City they had to pay 100,000 euros towards UEFA's costs .
The PL arbitration panel probably have the same powers that they may award costs against any club suing the PL or rule that each party pays it's own costs.

 

[allatsea]

Chelsea, as do Everton, Notts Forest and maybe Newcastle, seem to be filling their squad with players the selling clubs are happy to see go. They might be doing well as far as FFP is concerned but what will they do with these players when the Transfer Window opens and the season starts ?

 

[PCozzie]

Chelsea, as do Everton, Notts Forest and maybe Newcastle, seem to be filling their squad with players the selling clubs are happy to see go. They might be doing well as far as FFP is concerned but what will they do with these players when the Transfer Window opens and the season starts ?

They're a player trading company. They'll loan some out, keep others fit, and then in a couple of years sell them in some PSR get-around or include them as makeweights in a deal for someone else.

 

[Trix]

They're a player trading company. They'll loan some out, keep others fit, and then in a couple of years sell them in some PSR get-around or include them as makeweights in a deal for someone else.

They are going to be losing large sums on every one of these deals for players, that are never going to bring them a return. The few clubs that are doing this are banking on major changes to PSR, pushing the narrative with certain press outlets that they are being forced to sell off their academy players due to how poor the rules are. Honestly it won't wash with the member clubs that have done everything to stay in line and especially as far as European FFP regulations are concerned. None of them are buying players that will improve them, and with every deal there are wages and agents fee's to add on top of the reported price. It's a short term fix with no actual gain imo.

 

[Tucker]

They are going to be losing large sums on every one of these deals for players, that are never going to bring them a return. The few clubs that are doing this are banking on major changes to PSR, pushing the narrative with certain press outlets that they are being forced to sell off their academy players due to how poor the rules are. Honestly it won't wash with the member clubs that have done everything to stay in line and especially as far as European FFP regulations are concerned. None of them are buying players that will improve them, and with every deal there are wages and agents fee's to add on top of the reported price. It's a short term fix with no actual gain imo.

Really makes me wonder what these young players are thinking, being moved around like pawns on a chess board. Can’t be good for their development or long term prospects.

 

[Trix]

Really makes me wonder what these young players are thinking, being moved around like pawns on a chess board. Can’t be good for their development or long term prospects.

I'm sure they are doing very well out of it. These aren't players that are nailed on or destined for Premier league greatness. They will no doubt be loaned out to whatever level they actually should be at but on far far better wages.

 

[RJR1949]

They are going to be losing large sums on every one of these deals for players, that are never going to bring them a return. The few clubs that are doing this are banking on major changes to PSR, pushing the narrative with certain press outlets that they are being forced to sell off their academy players due to how poor the rules are. Honestly it won't wash with the member clubs that have done everything to stay in line and especially as far as European FFP regulations are concerned. None of them are buying players that will improve them, and with every deal there are wages and agents fee's to add on top of the reported price. It's a short term fix with no actual gain imo.

It’s a football Ponzi scheme.

These clubs have to keep on trading players at ever increasing profits to stay ahead of the PSR limit.

And back-to-back sweetheart deals increase amortisation and wages and make the sum that has to be covered by player trading profits in future years even larger.

Sooner rather than later the Ponzi scheme will fail as all Ponzi schemes always do.

 

[newbie]

It’s a football Ponzi scheme.

These clubs have to keep on trading players at ever increasing profits to stay ahead of the PSR limit.

And back-to-back sweetheart deals increase amortisation and wages and make the sum that has to be covered by player trading profits in future years even larger.

Sooner rather than later the Ponzi scheme will fail as all Ponzi schemes always do.

the super corrupt always seem to get away with it