Let’s all WTF at Derby

[Dillspur]

Seems like he refused a reduced contract, so I would assume the others accepted maybe?

So the club wanted to pay him off for less than what his contract was worth, he wouldn't accept and they sacked him.

They might have shot themselves in the foot! You'd think that any decent lawyer could make the argument that 1. he wasn't driving and 2. They've kept 2 players on for the same offense. I'd be shocked if the other 2 have had to reduced their contract.

 

[Trotter]

So the club wanted to pay him off for less than what his contract was worth, he wouldn't accept and they sacked him.

They might have shot themselves in the foot! You'd think that any decent lawyer could make the argument that 1. he wasn't driving and 2. They've kept 2 players on for the same offense. I'd be shocked if the other 2 have had to reduced their contract.

The other 2 though are available for work.
Keogh isn't, won’t be for at least a year, it is a self inflicted injury, breaking clauses in his contract, and for all we know he could have been drugged up and the others not.
I am sure Derby will not have taken this action without good legal advice.

 

[Dillspur]

The other 2 though are available for work.
Keogh isn't, won’t be for at least a year, it is a self inflicted injury, breaking clauses in his contract, and for all we know he could have been drugged up and the others not.
I am sure Derby will not have taken this action without good legal advice.

You're probably correct. But it doesn't feel right, they should have all been sacked

 

[Trotter]

You're probably correct. But it doesn't feel right, they should have all been sacked

The others did a Hugo (and a bit more), but the important thing is they were available for work the next day.
Should we have sacked Hugo last year ? Obviously not, but should have had captaincy stripped is my view.

However if Hugo last year had injured himself whilst drunk, and would be out for a good couple of years, I reckon we probably would have done, and tried to sue him for the lost asset value, similar to what Chelsea successfully did when sacking Adrian Mutu for drug taking, maybe 15 years ago.

 

[Col_M]

I’m with the board on this. He didn’t want the accept a reduced contract, he was happy to sit on the treatment table for £24k a week and he was worth £0. Gross misconduct absolutely.

 

['O Zio]

Seems like he refused a reduced contract, so I would assume the others accepted maybe?

That's ridiculous if true. Doesn't paint the club in a very good light. Rather than take a stance against this sort of behaviour and sack them all, they've just seen it as an opportunity to force the players to play for cheaper.

 

[Dougal]

I think there’s more to Keogh’s behaviour than it seems. We don’t know the finer details but it seems he was the centre of it all and despite being the drivers the other two were collateral damage. He was great for Ireland, looked like a complete nutter, but always did a job. But it just seems like he’s a bit of a prick with drink in him.

 

[beats1]

I think there’s more to Keogh’s behaviour than it seems. We don’t know the finer details but it seems he was the centre of it all and despite being the drivers the other two were collateral damage. He was great for Ireland, looked like a complete nutter, but always did a job. But it just seems like he’s a bit of a prick with drink in him.

Keogh has been one of derby's best players, on paper he should be shite and yet he plays with that much heart he ends being a monster in defence

To see a club legend almost be treated this way is sad

 

[Dougal]

Keogh has been one of derby's best players, on paper he should be shite and yet he plays with that much heart he ends being a monster in defence

To see a club legend almost be treated this way is sad

This is a separate issue to how he plays, it’s how he has conducted himself off the pitch.

 

[Dougal]

Whatever got him sacked hasn’t affected his welcome on the international scene...

 

[King of Otters]

Whatever got him sacked hasn’t affected his welcome on the international scene...

Sacked from his club, out injured for two years, yet still on the fringes of the Irish squad.

 

[UncleBuck]

Bump. I’d totally forgotten about this but I’ve just read that he received a £2m (cough) payout after appealing his dismissal!
He won an appeal at the EFL's Player Related Dispute Commission (PRDC) but that had been contested by Derby at the League Appeals' Committee (LAC). The LAC has now upheld the original verdict.
The EFL said in a statement: "The PDRC held that Mr Keogh had not committed gross misconduct, that he had not brought the club into serious disrepute and that he had been wrongly dismissed by the club."
Unbelievable...

 

[neilp]

Bump. I’d totally forgotten about this but I’ve just read that he received a £2m (cough) payout after appealing his dismissal!
He won an appeal at the EFL's Player Related Dispute Commission (PRDC) but that had been contested by Derby at the League Appeals' Committee (LAC). The LAC has now upheld the original verdict.
The EFL said in a statement: "The PDRC held that Mr Keogh had not committed gross misconduct, that he had not brought the club into serious disrepute and that he had been wrongly dismissed by the club."
Unbelievable...

That’s got to be some fucked up thinking to come to that conclusion.

 

[yankspurs]

Bump. I’d totally forgotten about this but I’ve just read that he received a £2m (cough) payout after appealing his dismissal!
He won an appeal at the EFL's Player Related Dispute Commission (PRDC) but that had been contested by Derby at the League Appeals' Committee (LAC). The LAC has now upheld the original verdict.
The EFL said in a statement: "The PDRC held that Mr Keogh had not committed gross misconduct, that he had not brought the club into serious disrepute and that he had been wrongly dismissed by the club."
Unbelievable...

Lmfao what? Are they kidding? That’s a joke right?

Also, has the EFL announced if this points deduction takes hold this year or next? There’s a relegation hanging on this decision…

 

['O Zio]

If I remember the story right, he wasn't actually driving so maybe that's his argument? The others were both drink driving but he was just a passenger, yet they sacked him and kept the others.

 

[beats1]

That’s got to be some fucked up thinking to come to that conclusion.

How So?

 

[beats1]

This is a separate issue to how he plays, it’s how he has conducted himself off the pitch.

As I said before, Keogh was always going to win

The club organised a meeting/team building exercise at the pub. Some of the players stayed far too long and turned down transport as everyone was leaving and they got wasted.

He got in to a car with several other players. Two of whom decided to play need for speed and went straight in to the barrier.

Keogh, was sacked for getting injured in the crash. If he didn't get injured he wouldn't have got sued.

The problem is none of the other players got sued and they put Keogh in more harm than he did himself

Derby argue as a club captain he should be held to a higher standard, however, if he wasn't able to make a decision for himself as he was incapacitated due to a dinner organised by the club.

Its hard to see how derby thought they could get away with it.

 

[beats1]

Derby's punishment for the EFL is an interesting one and shows how bad their financials are

EVERY club in the world amortises the Transfer fee over contract length till its 0, its an accounting loss to save money for more players lol

Derby decided to amortise the players value up to their residual value(aka what they value their players at). So in theory a player like All would haven amortisation as he has gone up in value. Its Stupid

 

[neilp]

How So?

Sorry but I thought he was driving.

 

[DJS]

If I remember the story right, he wasn't actually driving so maybe that's his argument? The others were both drink driving but he was just a passenger, yet they sacked him and kept the others.

Yeah this is what I find odd too.

The driver wasn’t sacked and to me it smacks of derby just wanting rid due to how long he was going to be injured and took opportunity which isn’t particularly fair really.