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tooey

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Walker is an obvious first choice at RB. He's better than that clown hutton anyway.
 

tRiKS

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walker gets himself in the position defendeing where soemone can get on the blind side of him for a through ball but he has a really good recovery tackle. He;s fast but like bale has some weight behind him so doesn't have to knock it so far ahead of his run or so far wide of a player. I was impressed with waht i saw on the ball and impressed enough off it. Considering the supposed company he was keeping only smalling was better in an england shirt last night.
He'd be my shout for a starting role at right back on the occasions when Lennon wasn't playing RW. Occasions like when we're playing VDV or Beckham :) wide or if we changed to 433.
 

Ionman34

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Strange kind of arguments on here, basically everyone is saying pretty much the same thing but fighting about who is saying it best!:duh:

What I've seen of Walker, with QPR and Villa, suggests to me that he is actually quite intelligent in that he learns quickly and rarely makes the same mistake twice. So far he has had part of a season in the top flight with a team (Villa) who have struggled to maintain mid table. This has put their defence under a deal of pressure and contributed hugely to his education.

Ask any Villa fan, they'd have him in a heartbeat because he is showing his quality now and will only get better.

When BAE joined us he was a relative unknown, showed huge promise and eventually developed into one of the top 3 fullbacks in the Premier League.

That is my opinion btw so you can release the sharply intaken breath of indignation if you don't agree.
I can see the same happening with Walker.

I think everyone agrees that Walker should be back for this coming season and that he should be getting his fair share of playing time. I particularly like the idea of using him for a complete formation change, even during a game that is not going our way. Just imagine the head fuck we'd cause to the lb, lm and manager of any team we were playing, if Harry took Lennon and Charlie out to replace them with Walker and VDV during the course of a game. VDV would drag his marker inside and Walker would skin the fb for fun. Tactical substitutions like that can change the entire dynamic of a game and put us firmly on the front foot.

Mouthwatering hey?
 

Kendall

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Marcelo and Dani Alves are the best right now and their both nothing special defensively.

I can't think of any full backs that are excellent going forward and excellent at defending.

Cashley is probably the only one. Then Evra who is also good defensively.
 

StartingPrice

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Strange kind of arguments on here, basically everyone is saying pretty much the same thing but fighting about who is saying it best!:duh:

What I've seen of Walker, with QPR and Villa, suggests to me that he is actually quite intelligent in that he learns quickly and rarely makes the same mistake twice. So far he has had part of a season in the top flight with a team (Villa) who have struggled to maintain mid table. This has put their defence under a deal of pressure and contributed hugely to his education.

Ask any Villa fan, they'd have him in a heartbeat because he is showing his quality now and will only get better.

When BAE joined us he was a relative unknown, showed huge promise and eventually developed into one of the top 3 fullbacks in the Premier League.

That is my opinion btw so you can release the sharply intaken breath of indignation if you don't agree.
I can see the same happening with Walker.

I think everyone agrees that Walker should be back for this coming season and that he should be getting his fair share of playing time. I particularly like the idea of using him for a complete formation change, even during a game that is not going our way. Just imagine the head fuck we'd cause to the lb, lm and manager of any team we were playing, if Harry took Lennon and Charlie out to replace them with Walker and VDV during the course of a game. VDV would drag his marker inside and Walker would skin the fb for fun. Tactical substitutions like that can change the entire dynamic of a game and put us firmly on the front foot.

Mouthwatering hey?

Yay, yay...IonMan (in blue) for President...yay, yay:grin:

Only kidding, Pard'Ner...good post. Welcome to the parallel Universe of SC where everyone agrees but argues over who is agreeing best:rofl:

I agree with everything you say (inevitably).
Unfortunately, most managers, including Mr Redknapp, often have toptions that fans can see as obvious to change the dynamic of a game and never seem to use them.

You also presuppose that VDV will be on the bench - don't think he'll like that:wink:
 

theShiznit

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Walker will add to our options on the right so that we can either play the corluka/lennon combo or have the walker/right sided midfielder tucking in combo - two very different combinations both of which will make us play in a different way - cant see lennon and walker playing together as they would end up standing next to each other

Could see Walker working well when/if VDV plays on the right (obviously would need cover from 2 DCM's) with VDV's tendancy to cut in from right as any lefty would, also same if Gio is still around or Pienaar comes in on the right.
 

Krafty

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I don't want to overhype Walker, nor do I want to destroy him...

At the moment, he is like a young Glen Johnson. He is shining because when he goes forward he looks very good. When a full back can take on people, whip in crosses, create goals, then naturally they get a lot of praise.

Defensively he does make some glaring errors, and he does make errors that he can then cover up because he has pace. If he is caught out of position he can get back into position quicker.

If he can improve the defensive side of his game (which Johnson hasnt but someone like A Cole has) then he will be a very good right back.

If he doesnt go out on loan next season then he should be playing the games at WHL against the bottom half sides who will have ten men behind the ball. Walker will go right to the byline and provide width, which can be key in those sorts of games.

Good ability, great potential, just needs to fulfil it.
 

Ionman34

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Yay, yay...IonMan (in blue) for President...yay, yay:grin:

Stop it, you're making me blush!:oops:

Only kidding, Pard'Ner...good post. Welcome to the parallel Universe of SC where everyone agrees but argues over who is agreeing best:rofl:

LOL, Thank you sir.

I agree with everything you say (inevitably).
Unfortunately, most managers, including Mr Redknapp, often have toptions that fans can see as obvious to change the dynamic of a game and never seem to use them.

I know, frustrating innit? We can but hope that the combined Football nous of Redknapp, Bond and Jordan have seen that it didn't work with Lennon and Hutton, because Lennon works better with Charlie, but that Kyle and VDV is a much better option as VDV likes to drift infield.

For the record, I think the option could work with Hutton too as I really don't think he's as bad as some make him out to be. It's just that Walker would be better as he's faster.

You also presuppose that VDV will be on the bench - don't think he'll like that:wink:

Well, not really SP. VDV could have been started behind the CF and shifted right when the change is made with an additional forward brought on?

Then again, maybe starting VDV on the bench would be good for him and his ego, let him know that he is there to suit the team, not the team there to suit him.

He still won't like it, but hey ho.................:wink:
 

StartingPrice

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I agree with you about Dad-Basher, unfortunatley, I suspect, his goose is well and truly cooked at WHL.

Well, not really SP. VDV could have been started behind the CF and shifted right when the change is made with an additional forward brought on?

Then again, maybe starting VDV on the bench would be good for him and his ego, let him know that he is there to suit the team, not the team there to suit him.

He still won't like it, but hey ho.................:wink:

Ladies and GentleFolkMenTypesChaps, I offer you exhibit A:


Just imagine the head fuck we'd cause to the lb, lm and manager of any team we were playing, if Harry took Lennon and Charlie out to replace them with Walker and VDV during the course of a game.

In this passage, the defendant clearly does produce the supposition that VDV would be on the bench, despite subsequent protestations to the contrary.

Mr IonMan, how do you plead?
 

Ionman34

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I agree with you about Dad-Basher, unfortunatley, I suspect, his goose is well and truly cooked at WHL.



Ladies and GentleFolkMenTypesChaps, I offer you exhibit A:




In this passage, the defendant clearly does produce the supposition that VDV would be on the bench, despite subsequent protestations to the contrary.

Mr IonMan, how do you plead?

Not guilty sir.

It is clearly evident that one has suggested that the aforementioned players be replaced, as in their respective positioning, by the latter suggestions.

At no point has one suggested that said player (i.e. Lennon) be substituted by certain colleague languishing on the bench.

I put it to the learned jury that such remarks are both defamatory and misleading and, if not withdrawn, will force one to thcweam until one ith thick.

Cue further defamatory remarks.
 

bubble07

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We have to off the very best atatcking fullbacks with Walker and Bale. Just imagine both bombing forward on hte overlap - no right mid will track the runs meaning most of hte time we will out number opposition full backs 2 v 1!! Can't wait to see it
 

Jay The Yid

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good player from what I have seen from him. Young and will improve. Time will tell whether he is the answer or not but should be given a run in the side next season.

Its impossible to say right now how good it is. Its up to him to show the right attitude as he has got the talent. But to be fair ive seen plenty of players in the past that show great potential and do not fulfill it.

As I say time will tell..
 

StartingPrice

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Not guilty sir.
It is clearly evident that one has suggested that the aforementioned players be replaced, as in their respective positioning, by the latter suggestions.
At no point has one suggested that said player (i.e. Lennon) be substituted by certain colleague languishing on the bench.
I put it to the learned jury that such remarks are both defamatory and misleading and, if not withdrawn, will force one to thcweam until one ith thick.

Cue further defamatory remarks.

My learned fiends of the jury, it is apparent that the defendant is attempting to lpay on the very ambiguity his poor choice and use of words has caused.
After the arresting officer took down his particulars (oooeeeeerrr, matron:eek:mg:), it was noted that he went blubbering into his cell, bleating:
"It's a fair cop, Guv'nor".
Now, he would have you believe that took Lennon and Charlie out to replace them with Walker and VDV does not carry the inherent implication that two off = two on, that it does in fact mean two off, one on and jiggle the other abat abit.

I'M NOT BUYING IT...I DEMAND A RECESS (or, failing that, a Resus), in order for a whole bevvy of Grammarians, Linguistists and semioticians to be hired, and confirm that I am, of course, correct. Yer 'Onor, I warrant that this casseis so serious, the implications so terrifying, that in this instance the fullest Deth Penalty sentence of the law be meted out, even though it was abolsihed many moons ago.
 

Lappi

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I don't want to overhype Walker, nor do I want to destroy him...

At the moment, he is like a young Glen Johnson. He is shining because when he goes forward he looks very good. When a full back can take on people, whip in crosses, create goals, then naturally they get a lot of praise.

Defensively he does make some glaring errors, and he does make errors that he can then cover up because he has pace. If he is caught out of position he can get back into position quicker.

If he can improve the defensive side of his game (which Johnson hasnt but someone like A Cole has) then he will be a very good right back.

If he doesnt go out on loan next season then he should be playing the games at WHL against the bottom half sides who will have ten men behind the ball. Walker will go right to the byline and provide width, which can be key in those sorts of games.

Good ability, great potential, just needs to fulfil it.

This. It's good to mention both A Cole and Johnson, as both were not great defenders when they were young fullbacks. Few young fullbacks are. A Cole is now an excellent defender, and Johnson is still shit. God knows how Kyle Walker will turn out defensively, guess we'll find out in a couple of years

Without reading the whole thread, I imagine I'm with the bast majority in hoping we sell Hutton and keep Walker next season as backup/competition for Charlie
 

StartingPrice

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And who looked poor when he first came to United.

Folk forget this all too easily...and it really should temper these demands for instant success from players. I remember this well. United had obvious defensive failties. It was the January transfer window. Red Nose brought Evra and Vidic in. We then had to spend the rest of the season and the start of the next listening to United (prawn-sanny) fans and pundits alike, squaking about how they just weren't good enough:roll:
 

stemark44

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I hope to see both Walker and Bale playing at full-back next season in a 4-3-3 and bombing down both flanks.
Especially against inferior teams when we are at home,scare the shit out of them.
 

riversmonkey

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Last night he appeared to be better than World Cup winning squad members and 20 million pound valued players. I know you cannot judge on one game alone, but it would be criminal if he was not pushing Corluka for the right back spot next season, especially given his performances for Villa and QPR last season.
 

agrdavidsfan

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Aug 25, 2005
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I think were all getting way to far ahead of ourselves with walker I really don't think he's the next big thing he's a right back that bombs forward and can't defend

Mega overated hope he proves me wrong


But if he's first choice next year I bet you will all get fed up of him very quickly!

When

- he's constantly out of position
- lazy coming back
- poor with the ball
- constant running into dead ends
- getting in lennons way
- dives in wrecklessly to give away pens
- our gets easily muscled off the ball


Would rather him start at right wing
 
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