C0YS
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- Jul 9, 2007
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He should go for his own good. No shame on that.
He has plenty of ability, though I don't see him as a 'play maker at fullback' that's what he was at youth team football, at top level football he might have some games but don't think you will see that regularly. At the moment Southampton is about his level, he is doing well there with no meaningful competition (though has been far from consistent and has been making mistakes). He might make it as a top 6 fullback eventually.
His biggest weakness isn't his size per say, but that he is a bit light weight, and can be bullied. Carr and Carlos were strong and physical. Walker Peters doesn't really have that, and at 23 that's a problem, because the likelihood of building that is harder. He is built like a twig, and he doesn't even have that low centre of gravity that smaller players tend to benefit from, he's a bit like me really! It's a weakness, you'd hope it's nothing that some gym work can't solve. But there you go.
On another point, Spurs fans seem to exaggerate how well players who came from our youth are actually doing at other clubs. Edwards, for example is doing very well, but nothing that is particularly highlighting him as a level apart from other exciting talents in the league, he looks an exciting player but not yet a potential world beater. People talked in the past of veljkovic proving that he would be good for us, by doing alright at a not particularly good german team and for being on the fringes of the Serbian national team etc. No one would know about these players, and people would have doubts if they didn't come from our youth.
If you actually look at what forums are saying about KWP is that they think he is a good player and worth it, but that he has weaknesses in defending. Most think he is good, but not 'that' good. And that's the thing. KWP is a good player but he is not so exceptional to stand out from the crowd. His performances have varied from being awful to very good. He played very well against Man City and Bournemouth, but was terrible against Man utd and Burnley. If he works in his consistency he might further his career, we won't give him the chance to do that. But, there are many players like him. He won't be a great loss.
Walker-Peters is already a massive success from a youth development prospective. We can talk about 'what could have been' but what actually is, is not the norm for hyped youth talents. It's not the norm at all. People seem to expect youth team players to even semi-regularly match their potential, but the reality is that this is an incredibly rare thing. Even the top youth talents in world football, the next 'messi's etc have less hits than misses (to varying degrees). Sometimes, we focus too much on what could have been, rather than what has actually been produced.
Onomah, for example, is actually a big success story, which was given way more of a chance here than some players we actually went out and bought. The same goes for Walker-Peters, he has been given chances, he has played 24 games, most of those for actually a significant amount of time. Yes he was played out of position at times, yes, it was often stop start. But youth player needs to take these chances. Look at Tanganga, look at Kane, Winks, Mason, Townsend and even Dier. The only players in recent years who seemed to be given time to bed in was Bentaleb. You have to take the chances you are given, show the manager that they can trust you, even if out of position. Onomah and KWP had those chances. They could have stuck around until they were ready to take one, or they could move down the levels and go from there.
Would loans of helped? Probably, but loans can often do the opposite of help. Chelsea in particular, have abused the loan system but also stopped talented players from being able to be settled and grow. Loans can be wearing and can result in players picking up bad habits. Loans can be very useful, but they are not always the case. It really is a case by case basis. A lot of former Chelsea academy players speak very badly about their loaning experience, and frankly, Chelsea's system is a career wrecker, it's like training players to be journeymen. The right move, is the move in which players can learn the most, that's not always an easy thing to call.
He has plenty of ability, though I don't see him as a 'play maker at fullback' that's what he was at youth team football, at top level football he might have some games but don't think you will see that regularly. At the moment Southampton is about his level, he is doing well there with no meaningful competition (though has been far from consistent and has been making mistakes). He might make it as a top 6 fullback eventually.
His biggest weakness isn't his size per say, but that he is a bit light weight, and can be bullied. Carr and Carlos were strong and physical. Walker Peters doesn't really have that, and at 23 that's a problem, because the likelihood of building that is harder. He is built like a twig, and he doesn't even have that low centre of gravity that smaller players tend to benefit from, he's a bit like me really! It's a weakness, you'd hope it's nothing that some gym work can't solve. But there you go.
On another point, Spurs fans seem to exaggerate how well players who came from our youth are actually doing at other clubs. Edwards, for example is doing very well, but nothing that is particularly highlighting him as a level apart from other exciting talents in the league, he looks an exciting player but not yet a potential world beater. People talked in the past of veljkovic proving that he would be good for us, by doing alright at a not particularly good german team and for being on the fringes of the Serbian national team etc. No one would know about these players, and people would have doubts if they didn't come from our youth.
If you actually look at what forums are saying about KWP is that they think he is a good player and worth it, but that he has weaknesses in defending. Most think he is good, but not 'that' good. And that's the thing. KWP is a good player but he is not so exceptional to stand out from the crowd. His performances have varied from being awful to very good. He played very well against Man City and Bournemouth, but was terrible against Man utd and Burnley. If he works in his consistency he might further his career, we won't give him the chance to do that. But, there are many players like him. He won't be a great loss.
Walker-Peters is already a massive success from a youth development prospective. We can talk about 'what could have been' but what actually is, is not the norm for hyped youth talents. It's not the norm at all. People seem to expect youth team players to even semi-regularly match their potential, but the reality is that this is an incredibly rare thing. Even the top youth talents in world football, the next 'messi's etc have less hits than misses (to varying degrees). Sometimes, we focus too much on what could have been, rather than what has actually been produced.
Onomah, for example, is actually a big success story, which was given way more of a chance here than some players we actually went out and bought. The same goes for Walker-Peters, he has been given chances, he has played 24 games, most of those for actually a significant amount of time. Yes he was played out of position at times, yes, it was often stop start. But youth player needs to take these chances. Look at Tanganga, look at Kane, Winks, Mason, Townsend and even Dier. The only players in recent years who seemed to be given time to bed in was Bentaleb. You have to take the chances you are given, show the manager that they can trust you, even if out of position. Onomah and KWP had those chances. They could have stuck around until they were ready to take one, or they could move down the levels and go from there.
Would loans of helped? Probably, but loans can often do the opposite of help. Chelsea in particular, have abused the loan system but also stopped talented players from being able to be settled and grow. Loans can be wearing and can result in players picking up bad habits. Loans can be very useful, but they are not always the case. It really is a case by case basis. A lot of former Chelsea academy players speak very badly about their loaning experience, and frankly, Chelsea's system is a career wrecker, it's like training players to be journeymen. The right move, is the move in which players can learn the most, that's not always an easy thing to call.
