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We’re offering Lamela and/or Foyth as a part of the deal (rumors). Wouldn’t be a bad trade imo. Neither are pushing for a permanent spot in the team and with Lamela’s history of injuries, we’re better of with healthy players
 

SpartanSpur

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18 month loan is a very clever one, even if we buckle and have to agree to an obligation. (per Romano, I assume this is what Herc is referring to in the ITK thread).
 

Cochise

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Loan to buy feels like the best deal given that he's had one good season in a decent league. I know people have pulled up his stats prior to his move to Italy, but lets be honest, the Polish league is incredibly poor.
 

DEFchenkOE

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I think it means you can only register 2 in each registration period (each transfer window) but can have 4 overall, otherwise the rule is pretty pointless as who would ever loan 4 if you couldn't play 2 of them.
So you can register 2 in the summer and 2 in January

Edit: think that's wrong, this is correct: In the Premier League, clubs can only loan two players from other Premier League sides, but 'international loans' do not count towards that quota,

Like in our case if we sign Piatek on loan that is 3 out of the 4 loans allowed but now we have signed Lo Celso we have only had 2 registered at any one time. That's my guess anyway.
 

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My Chelsea supporting work colleague tells me that their ITKs are suggesting they are keen on KP too.
 

ebzrascal

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I don't get the thinking of some who want to move on Lamela. He's been very unlucky with injuries but when he is on the pitch he brings another level of intensity, aggression, passion and tempo that other players sorely lack. He raises the bar for his teammates and outside of matches I bet he has the same positive influence in raising everyone's game in training. You need alternative options on the bench, and you know with him coming on that he will add bite and play with his head up to link play in the final third.
He is never consistently on the pitch that's the point.
 

Wig

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He is never consistently on the pitch that's the point.
33 appearances in each of the last 2 seasons, and 21 appearances already this season. That is a significant contribution on the pitch, let alone what he brings to training and the dressing room.
 

Timberwolf

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This seems to be the new Levy modus operandi for riskier signings like Piatek and Gedson. A longer loan with a higher initial fee, hence more of an incentive for the seller to accept, but also still leaving us an 'out' after a reasonable period of the player turns out to be shitturd. Levy has clearly been stung by the amount of deadwood we got stuck with under Poch.

Hopefully Milan bite. I would be much much happier with this outcome than a straight up fee or an obligation.
 

ernest_lowrider

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This seems to be the new Levy modus operandi for riskier signings like Piatek and Gedson. A longer loan so higher initial fee and more of an incentive for the seller to accept, but also still giving us an 'out' after a reasonable period of they turn out to be shitturds.

Hopefully Milan bite. I would be much much happier with this outcome than a straight up fee or an obligation.

according to ITKs we've been trying to unsuccessfully rid off some players for last 2 years, having it this way means we may no longer have 'we need to sell first' shit
 

Timberwolf

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according to ITKs we've been trying to unsuccessfully rid off some players for last 2 years, having it this way means we may no longer have 'we need to sell first' shit
Yeah, the lack of a long term financial commitment gives us a lot more flexibility in the market. Seems like a win-win to me provided there's always an option to buy included.
 

SpartanSpur

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My Chelsea supporting work colleague tells me that their ITKs are suggesting they are keen on KP too.

You'd actually hope we could compete quite well with Chelsea in the market currently

- Mourinho vs Lampard
- Less competition for starts due to Kane injury
- We've been tracking him for longer
- Wages likely to be similar now

Chelsea could potentially offer a higher transfer fee or better part-ex offers but I think if it came to player choice we'd get him.
 

Japhet

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Time to ramp up the interest in Jose Willian (who I think would be a better fit tbh). If nothing else it puts the ball back in Milan's court.
 

LukaMotion

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So we've tried offering Foyth and Lamela to the Italians in order to get Piatek over the line, but I think we're missing a trick.

Think about it, what is Italy famous for? That's right, spaghetti.

And who do we know that loves spaghetti?

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It's a match made in heaven. Get it done Daniel.
 

JayB

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Yeah, the lack of a long term financial commitment gives us a lot more flexibility in the market. Seems like a win-win to me provided there's always an option to buy included.
This new m.o. is a really exciting development. It seems to me that our failures in the transfer market which led to Poch’s downfall really started after the Neymar, Mbappe, O. Dembele, and Coutinho carousel. Prices skyrocketed across the board and deals began to represent too big a risk for Levy, leaving us paralyzed in the market.

This new loan-as-quasi-trial scheme first put into place with GLC allows us to maneuver around that barrier by making sure the player is worth the full fee before taking the plunge. I suspect we’ll see it a lot and it really seems to have greased the wheels of our business, which was desperately needed and represents a massive improvement over our inability to get any business done for a period of years.
 

Timberwolf

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This new m.o. is a really exciting development. It seems to me that our failures in the transfer market which led to Poch’s downfall really started after the Neymar, Mbappe, O. Dembele, and Coutinho carousel. Prices skyrocketed across the board and deals began to represent too big a risk for Levy, leaving us paralyzed in the market.

This new loan-as-quasi-trial scheme first put into place with GLC allows us to maneuver around that barrier by making sure the player is worth the full fee before taking the plunge. I suspect we’ll see it a lot and it really seems to have greased the wheels of our business, which was desperately needed and represents a massive improvement over our inability to get any business done for a period of years.
It really makes a huge amount of sense to use this method to sign the more 'transitional' signings that come about in case of injury or in less essential positions. In previous years we would've brought in a Stambouli or a Holtby on the cheap with the aim of upselling them, but these days there's hardly any value in the market and no-one wants to buy from EPL clubs, so we just ended up with a squad bloated with a lot of average players.

This tactic also leaves us more money to spend on the 'proper', more expensive signings like Ndombele who we obviously aim to have as key members of the squad for the foreseeable future.
 
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