Jose Mourinho

[Rout-Ledge]

Managers like Tuchel and Moyes have made Jose look really bad this season, Moyes has massively over achieved this season with inferior players, yes he's had more time to implement his game plan but his teams have structure and direction and he has kept all his players happy. Tuchel has come in and made an immediate impact on his players and that's with European football. Jose has been here for a year and a half and we've had moments of his philosophy coming to fruition here and there but it just hasn't been consistent.

Frankly it would take less time to reel off a list of managers who haven’t made Jose look bad this season.

Even Ole, who back in 2020 was getting a lesson from Jose at Old Trafford, has now had the last laugh with a win at our place and is comfortably above us in the table.

 

[tiger666]

Managers like Tuchel and Moyes have made Jose look really bad this season, Moyes has massively over achieved this season with inferior players, yes he's had more time to implement his game plan but his teams have structure and direction and he has kept all his players happy. Tuchel has come in and made an immediate impact on his players and that's with European football. Jose has been here for a year and a half and we've had moments of his philosophy coming to fruition here and there but it just hasn't been consistent.

Tuchel has really impressed me.

 

[SPURSLIFE]

I expect to see simeone in the premier League one day probably at Chelsea.

Another very defensive manager.

 

[Shadydan]

Frankly it would take less time to reel off a list of managers who haven’t made Jose look bad this season.

Even Ole, who back in 2020 was getting a lesson from Jose at Old Trafford, has now had the last laugh with a win at our place and is comfortably above us in the table.

Yeah I agree but the reason I used Moyes is because he's been in that job a similar amount of time as Jose and Tuchel because he's literally came in straight away and made an impact although I do get the point.

Ole has improved though and the players seem to like him there so they will always play for him no matter.

 

[HodisGawd]

For years we wanted CL football then Redknapp and Poch delivered it.

Then we got desperate for trophies after a long period without any.

The biggest positive of Jose's time here is the reminder is that none of the success matters if you don't enjoy watching your team play.

You have really nailed the point here.

The aggressive, angry mania some fans on here show for silverware and success actually disgusts me. We all want to win, obviously, but not at all costs.

 

[SPURSLIFE]

Tuchel has really impressed me.

Me too. His first job was to sort out the defence and he did that quite quickly. I must admit at the time I thought they would stop leaking goals but would be boring to watch. However he seems to have now improved their attacking style of play and they are, sad to say, a much better side to watch. Tuchel has done in a very short space of time what many thought Jose was going to do, unfortunately he hasn't and doesn't look likely to.

 

[rossdapep]

Tuchel has really impressed me.

I think he's a great example that coaches out of the PL don't need to adapt in the way they did maybe 5 years ago. Which is a good sign should we get Nagelsman or Ten Hag.

Klopp and Pep had some issues when they first arrived, some with their squad but also some when playing more direct teams, so they needed time to adapt to that.

But I think the PL has changed a lot and more coaces focus on getting their teams to play, which takes some of the adapting phase away.

Tuchel has come in and operated in a similar manner to his PSG time and hasn't suffered at all really. Big Sam being the only coach to give him that. But there's not many Big Sam's about anymore.

It's also another reason why I think Jose has struggled so much. All these coaches now are so heavily into focused coaching, analysis and player development. Ten years ago, a lot more emphasis was on mentality and organisation, now coaches are proactive and constantly finding new solutions and ways to beat other systems.

Tuchel is part of that new crowd.

 

[Metalhead]

You have really nailed the point here.

The aggressive, angry mania some fans on here show for silverware and success actually disgusts me. We all want to win, obviously, but not at all costs.

You don't need to be disgusted unless people try and impose their views on you.

 

[hellava_tough]

You don't need to be disgusted unless people try and impose their views on you.

You hear that statement quite a bit, but I've always wondered what that actually means in real life.

I mean, if a group of masked men broke into your house at 2am, stuck a black bag over your head and dragged you away to a 'reeducation' facility, then, yeah, I guess that's someone 'imposing their views' on you.

But this doesn't happen much in the UK.

So with that in mind, where are the lines between the categories of discourse, passionate apologetic and brainwashing?

 

[slartibartfast]

You hear that statement quite a bit, but I've always wondered what that actually means in real life.

I mean, if a group of masked men broke into your house at 2am, stuck a black bag over your head and dragged you away to a 'reeducation' facility, then, yeah, I guess that's someone 'imposing their views' on you.

But this doesn't happen much in the UK.

So with that in mind, where are the lines between the categories of discourse, passionate apologetic and brainwashing?

Take it outside lol.

 

[Metalhead]

You hear that statement quite a bit, but I've always wondered what that actually means in real life.

I mean, if a group of masked men broke into your house at 2am, stuck a black bag over your head and dragged you away to a 'reeducation' facility, then, yeah, I guess that's someone 'imposing their views' on you.

But this doesn't happen much in the UK.

So with that in mind, where are the lines between the categories of discourse, passionate apologetic and brainwashing?

I don't know. I just don't know why people are 'disgusted' over something so subjective.

 

[lemony snickets]

Glad to read that Jose’s out regardless of Sunday’s result, there is light at the end of the tunnel. Of all the possible replacements that I perceive to be gettable, I’d like to see Stevie Gerrard in charge next season, a young coach, proven that he can change a clubs mentality with his work at Rangers. Young, hungry, won stuff as player and now as a manager. Just my onions of course

 

[King of Otters]

Glad to read that Jose’s out regardless of Sunday’s result, there is light at the end of the tunnel. Of all the possible replacements that I perceive to be gettable, I’d like to see Stevie Gerrard in charge next season, a young coach, proven that he can change a clubs mentality with his work at Rangers. Young, hungry, won stuff as player and now as a manager. Just my onions of course

Not for me. Imagine the constant media circus if he does a good job and Liverpool hit a rocky patch.

It’ll be like Redknapp to England all over again.

 

[lemony snickets]

Not for me. Imagine the constant media circus if he does a good job and Liverpool hit a rocky patch.

It’ll be like Redknapp to England all over again.

The flip side to your reply is that we’d have to be doing / playing well again for that scenario to be viable, which is ultimately what we all want isn’t it? Just don’t want a perennial almost guy like Rodgers, and that Leipzig manager ain’t coming to us if Bryan Munich are looking and the thought of Sarri doesn’t appeal either. For me Gerrard has real potential and isn’t a fossil like the other available managers. On the plus side, Arsenal shit their pants again I just saw ??

 

[JamieSpursCommunityUser]

Getting to any final is meaningless unless you win it, finishing second IS NOT an achievement, unless you live in PC, woke, Leftie world!!

Marx famously told Tottenham fans to celebrate getting to any finals

He did, famously.

I remember the Kale eating Corbynites (tm) on my road having an all night rave when their party came 2nd in the election.

"We're just glad to have taken part!", they cheered.

That's the trouble with these loosing obsessed PC snowflakes. They just can't handle the intellectual potency of my courageously incisive truth bombs.

 

[King of Otters]

The flip side to your reply is that we’d have to be doing / playing well again for that scenario to be viable, which is ultimately what we all want isn’t it? Just don’t want a perennial almost guy like Rodgers, and that Leipzig manager ain’t coming to us if Bryan Munich are looking and the thought of Sarri doesn’t appeal either. For me Gerrard has real potential and isn’t a fossil like the other available managers. On the plus side, Arsenal shit their pants again I just saw ??

But in that scenario it’s an absolute cast iron guarantee that he will be continually linked with Liverpool and will ditch us the next time that job comes up.

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

Glad to read that Jose’s out regardless of Sunday’s result, there is light at the end of the tunnel. Of all the possible replacements that I perceive to be gettable, I’d like to see Stevie Gerrard in charge next season, a young coach, proven that he can change a clubs mentality with his work at Rangers. Young, hungry, won stuff as player and now as a manager. Just my onions of course

Who's your backup choice? Fat Frank?

 

[Bobby TwoShots]

He might do well for a national side. Would be interesting to see him manage England.

Haven’t England fans suffered enough?

 

[Amo]

I think we need to stop blaming players because everyone looks shit under Jose bar kane.

No one has improved under Mourinho, if anything majority of the squad have looked worse.

And all the talk of Mourinho improving Ndombele is bullshit only an idiot would believe that, in my opinion.

People still saying "it's not his fault the players can't carry out his vision" as if that means anything.

Imagine a manager came up from the Championship and decided to play all out attack against Man City and then a fan said "well it's not his fault the strikers aren't good enough to counteract the 13 we conceded."

 

[lemony snickets]

Who's your backup choice? Fat Frank?

Not at all and it’s just my opinion. Think at this point in proceedings he couldn’t do any worse than any of the other gettable manager. Rodgers has only ever been successful in Scotland and I’ve heard his name banded around, why would Gerrard not be considered having just won the title with Rangers?