January 2025 Scouting Thread

[Ghost Hardware]

Yeah I edited my post to say Chelsea are lucky to have him. Whether Chelsea waste him and use him or just going to fade out and be a profit making buy.

This is what Fab said about Chelsea's view of him "internally at Chelsea, the directors and the owners and all the people at the club believe that Andrey Santos will absolutely be a part of the Chelsea project. They had the possibility to sell the player last summer, Chelsea said no. They always wanted to have Andrey Santos as part of the project.”

Obv with Chelsea you never know as you say but he has been one of the best players in the league this season so I would be very surprised if they didn't give him a chance at the very least especially if the above is true.

 

[danielneeds]

The trouble with Semenyo is that apparently he has a contract until 2029. To buy a player with such a long deal it would require a fee that we should only reserve for players that would be seen as real difference makers and will be sure to start in our best 11. I really like Semenyo, but is he prime Son level? Because to take the next step we really need absolute top class players. In terms of adding more options to the squad, I think we are more likely to look at or be linked with, the likes of Mbuemo, Lookman or Malen, as they all will be available in the summer at reasonable prices, due to the length of their contracts. I like Mbuemo, but I'm not sure he's someone who would take us to the next level. But for a good price, he'd add some quality depth to our squad. I can understand why me might be interested in Lookman, though I wouldn't be too exicted by him. Malen I expect us to be linked with us at some point, but don't think he'd improve us.

The thing is we could have had Tony or other strikers cheaper than Solanke, but Ange obviously was prepared to lobby to pay more for the one he wanted. I suspect if Dom continues to impress this season Levy will be more likely to back Ange’s recommendations next summer.

 

[mr ashley]

The thing is we could have had Tony or other strikers cheaper than Solanke, but Ange obviously was prepared to lobby to pay more for the one he wanted. I suspect if Dom continues to impress this season Levy will be more likely to back Ange’s recommendations next summer.

That’s as maybe but does that logically lead to us going for semenyo then?
Haven’t seen his pressing/sprinting stats, but would expect they’d be vital to any interest we’d have for him if he was to compete with Johnson

semenyo is an interesting talent but it’s very much his breakthrough 12 months whereas mbeumo has a little more consistency over time at PL level and will be cheaper too

I think marmoush would be the best option but we’d probably have to move in January which feels unlikely given our squad set up currently.

we’ve discussed a lb but spence/gray seem to be getting minutes this way currently (as well as vdv, although short lived). I’d go for Dennis Cirkin as a CT/HG option but I doubt the club agrees
I’d also go for Patterson as a gk but again I don’t see that happening in January

Not really expecting much January activity tbh

 

[King of the Lane]

I know a lot of people are liking Semenyo at the moment but I have seen a lot of Bournemouth fans say he is a bit of an enigma - he will either do something really shit or really good at any given moment. Made me think of Sissoko lol. Good player but Im not sure he is the type of winger we need.

 

[OPModric]

Ghost!

I definitely watch Allsvenskan, but my own team is in the 2nd division so not as much as I would have liked

The most talked about teenager this season in allsvenskan (whose surname is not Bergvall) has been Malick Yalcouye. Brighton signed him (of course) this summer, and he is now on loan at Sturm Graz.

Even if Toure looks very taIented I would be surprised if he was in our thinking already. Nanasi was arguably the best player in the league this season, and he went to Strasbourg in Ligue 1.

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The last time Hammarby had an 18 year old burst on to the scene was Williot Swedberg, and he has only got into the team in the last year or so at Celta Vigo, at age 20 (scored against Real Madrid last week).

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If you do get to watch Toure in the coming weeks, let me know what you think. They play the Champions next week in Malmö, so should be a good test for him.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help, but wouldn't be surprised if we have a Hammarby fan on the forum somewhere...

My local club plays in swedish third highest division but Hammarby is my team in Allsvenskan. I watch all of their games and can confirm what @Ghost Hardware is saying that he primary is an incredible athlete. He has amazing speed. I think Premier League would be a bad choice for him but at the same time I'm curious to see how far he can go as a player.

Edit: There are more major transfers than there have been in a long time from Allsvenskan. In addition to Bergvall and Yalcouye being the biggest, we also have Samuel Dahl to Roma and Dennis Gül from Hammarby to Porto.

 

[danielneeds]

I know a lot of people are liking Semenyo at the moment but I have seen a lot of Bournemouth fans say he is a bit of an enigma - he will either do something really shit or really good at any given moment. Made me think of Sissoko lol. Good player but Im not sure he is the type of winger we need.

There are a lot of Bournemouth fans???

 

[YB123]

Sky Sports Germany are linking us. along with Liverpool, for Hugo Larsson at Frankfurt. Central Midfielder. Anyone know much about him?

 

[Disco]

Sky Sports Germany are linking us. along with Liverpool, for Hugo Larsson at Frankfurt. Central Midfielder. Anyone know much about him?

Know he's highly rated.....thats about it.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Know he's highly rated.....thats about it.

Not quite the Ghost Hardware standard of scouting report!

 

[joey55]

The thing is we could have had Tony or other strikers cheaper than Solanke, but Ange obviously was prepared to lobby to pay more for the one he wanted. I suspect if Dom continues to impress this season Levy will be more likely to back Ange’s recommendations next summer.

I'm not saying Levy wont spend on the right player. What I mean is that unless it's a player that we really think is going to elevate us to another level, then paying large fees to get their clubs to release them is unlikely imo. I think players like Mbuemo or Semenyo would improve our squad and even maybe the starting 11. But I doubt anyone thinks they are a sufficient step up to make us a real threat int he way Salah or Mane were for Liverpool. So, from that persepctive, I think we'd only be looking to recruit that level of player in a way that doesn't impact our overall budget too significantly, hence those with a year left on their contract seem much more likely than those with long term deals.

I would compare buying another wing forward, of the level of Semenyo to buying Dragusin, more than Solanke. We already have 2 quality CB's, so Dragusin was about depth. We didn't have a recognised striker, so it was obviously an area we needed to invest in. The only way we spend big on a wide forward, imo, is if it's a player we see as having truly elite potential, that could replace Sonny long term or obviously improve on Johnson.

 

[BorjeSpurs]

A player who’s impressed me recently tho is Dário Essugo who’s on loan at Las Palmas. He’s only 19 so it’s a little too soon to judge (and Las Palmas are not having a good season at all) but I do wonder if he isn’t more of the profile we might need than someone like Johnny. One to watch over the season.

 

[mr ashley]

I'm not saying Levy wont spend on the right player. What I mean is that unless it's a player that we really think is going to elevate us to another level, then paying large fees to get their clubs to release them is unlikely imo. I think players like Mbuemo or Semenyo would improve our squad and even maybe the starting 11. But I doubt anyone thinks they are a sufficient step up to make us a real threat int he way Salah or Mane were for Liverpool. So, from that persepctive, I think we'd only be looking to recruit that level of player in a way that doesn't impact our overall budget too significantly, hence those with a year left on their contract seem much more likely than those with long term deals.

I would compare buying another wing forward, of the level of Semenyo to buying Dragusin, more than Solanke. We already have 2 quality CB's, so Dragusin was about depth. We didn't have a recognised striker, so it was obviously an area we needed to invest in. The only way we spend big on a wide forward, imo, is if it's a player we see as having truly elite potential, that could replace Sonny long term or obviously improve on Johnson.

Totally agree

so, I’d support spending £60m on marmoush as an elite wing forward option (dependant on Werner leaving in jan)
If that’s not affordable, then rather we go for mbeumo with 1 yr left for £35-45m instead of £60m for semenyo

 

[Ron Burgundy]

I would compare buying another wing forward, of the level of Semenyo to buying Dragusin, more than Solanke. We already have 2 quality CB's, so Dragusin was about depth. We didn't have a recognised striker, so it was obviously an area we needed to invest in. The only way we spend big on a wide forward, imo, is if it's a player we see as having truly elite potential, that could replace Sonny long term or obviously improve on Johnson.

I think this is spot on, and often overlooked by the fan base - it makes total sense when you consider the opportunity cost of every £ spent

 

[T-Bone]

Kuhn off Celtic looks a player tonight, tearing Lepzig a new one

 

[danielneeds]

I'm not saying Levy wont spend on the right player. What I mean is that unless it's a player that we really think is going to elevate us to another level, then paying large fees to get their clubs to release them is unlikely imo. I think players like Mbuemo or Semenyo would improve our squad and even maybe the starting 11. But I doubt anyone thinks they are a sufficient step up to make us a real threat int he way Salah or Mane were for Liverpool. So, from that persepctive, I think we'd only be looking to recruit that level of player in a way that doesn't impact our overall budget too significantly, hence those with a year left on their contract seem much more likely than those with long term deals.

I would compare buying another wing forward, of the level of Semenyo to buying Dragusin, more than Solanke. We already have 2 quality CB's, so Dragusin was about depth. We didn't have a recognised striker, so it was obviously an area we needed to invest in. The only way we spend big on a wide forward, imo, is if it's a player we see as having truly elite potential, that could replace Sonny long term or obviously improve on Johnson.

I don’t really buy the “elite potential” thing. Marmoush may be a real talent, but the PL is a totally different level of physical and mental challenge. With any forward like him you’re gambling so much that he can hack it. There is a a lot to be said for buying players with PL experience. Once it goes above 40m for a player from the Bundesliga you’re basically spending a load of money spinning a roulette wheel.

Having said all that, Hincapie playing real well tonight against Salah. Definitely would fit really well for LB/LCB.

 

[Tyler24durden]

I think Vicario is a weakness for us with him not commanding his area and us suffering with conceding from set pieces.

Great shot stopper and good reflexes.

I’d really like us to sign Lucas Chevalier from Lille to challenge him as I think he is better and is only 22.

Jorrel Hato would be good for lcb/lb and is 18 and doing well at Ajax.

I think richy needs moving on, we just can’t rely on him and I’d like Lankshear given a chance to be backup to Solanke.

I’d love us to tie up a summer deal for Gyokeres but he’s probably beyond us.

Still need a rw too, roony Bardghji should be getting back to fitness and if we sign him may become home grown status too.

 

[jpascavitz]

Kuhn off Celtic looks a player tonight, tearing Lepzig a new one

Believe he is actually a Leipzig youth product if I'm not mistaken haha

 

[YB123]

Believe he is actually a Leipzig youth product if I'm not mistaken haha

Sure I read somewhere last few years he had a load of issues with his teeth, meaning he would lose a lot of weight but its sorted. I could be way off with that but sure I heard something like that about him.

Think Aly Cissokho and a couple other players had same problem.

But a few scots I know have said that so far this season, its one of the best individual performances so far in absolute years.

 

[danielneeds]

Don’t know how the hell we get rid of Richy next summer if he won’t go to Saudi, but Jonathan David’s CL form is turning my head a little. There are so many PL teams looking for a No 1 striker I guess he’d be reluctant to come here if Solanke keeps scoring. Given he’ll be a free transfer, he’ll have his pick.

 

[$hoguN]

Yeah that’s fair, I think it’s a mistake (not that my opinion matters). I think Johnson has some good qualities but a lot of his game is flawed. But I guess another high ceiling young RW to compete with him would work.

He has the ultimate attribute. End product.