You massively over-play a manager's role in the actual game. Which is football. Played by football players.
They don't suddenly forget how to score, they don't suddenly forget how to pass.
Let's just get rid of the manager eh? Maybe drop down to tenth for a couple of years. Then maybe some of you would fuck off for a bit. That'd be nice.
The players have let him down big time. You want to hate on him, hate on him.
They need to take a share of this bile/bollocks that's coming from the majority of you. Otherwise you simply can't have enjoyed the last 2 years of his management.
Redknapp.
I'm very drunk right now. I've even put my McDonald's down to type this. (That's a pretty big deal). But this slump cannot possibly be all Harry Redknapp's fault.
It goes beyond reality to think so.
As much as he motivates and sends players out for the two sets of 45 minutes, they really honestly have to take some responsibility for the performances that they've put in since February.
If this is such a wondrous group of players that need very little management, then why the fuck have they been playing like they have for the last two months?
Today, I though Modric was terrible. I thought Parker was fantastic. But through various periods of the last number of games, you have to rationally think that actually there's only so much a manager can influence. There's a lot of a hit to be taken by the players.
Redknapp seems to be taking the most of the hit. Unfairly, in my opinion.
Players need to stand up and be counted and not hide under fans preconceptions of Redknapp's past.
Two cents from a boozy ol' blogger.
Then explain the success of Ferguson or Mourinho please...Or to a lesser extent Wenger.
Sorry the manager plays a huge role in the way the team plays and perhaps more importantly the mentality of the club. I'm not over-playing the role at all. Ferguson even said the manager is the most important person at the club, more important that all the players, coaches, etc.
You are not drunk just deluded.
My arsehole knows more about football than that fucking joke of a manager!
stemark44;2532999 said:Harry has without doubt fantastic man-management skills but he is lacking tactically.
The dream ticket is a manager like Harry,working with a coach who is fantastic at tactics,having a scouting sytem that can spot exceptional talent throughout the world and having a Chairman who backs them totally.
To be honest we are currently not that far away from having that and with a few minor adjustments we could definitely make it.
stemark44;2655378 said:If Harry goes then it leaves us on a sticky wicket.
I don't think there is anyone currently working in the UK who we could get that is good enough to be our manager.
I don't want to hate him, that's balls mate. I don't hate him, I'm pissed off tonight yes but I don't hate him. Do I want him for the long term? No, for the reasons I was giving all week before what unfolded today. His comments post match are pretty staggering, maybe you missed them?
Harry was happy to take the plaudits when things were going well, well they're arn't now and he has been part of the problem - so in my view people are quite right to be pissed off with some of his decisions.
And if you're so insistent that we blame the players, well then maybe its the players who deserve all the praise for when things were going well.
At the end of last season he was a **** and two games in he was still a ****, 15 games in he'd won most people around and 25 games in he was a legend and people were slitting their wrists at the thought of losing him. Now he's a ***** again.
Only on SC can you go from **** to legend and back to **** again in the space of a few games.
I've seen some utter shit posted tonight, some absolutely embarrassing drivel that a monkey on whizz couldn't dream up. At least Ashcroft is consistent, he hates Redknapp come rain or shine, but some of the most vitriolic comments are coming from people who were spreading rose petals in his path as he walked along a couple of months or so ago. Sure there's cause for complaint, but there's no balance to it.
As so it will go on. Redknapp will leave, a new guy will come in and he will be hailed as the saviour. 10 games later he's a ****. If we did eventually win a title, the poor sod in the hotseat better fucking retain it the next year and also win the CL cos if he don't he'll be a **** too.
Its a fucking sad indictment of the way people handle expectation and disappointment
SC's **** 'o' meter. More reliable than a Swiss watch.
Yeah, the players have been FUCKING AMAZING in the last two months and deserve our praise. It's completely all the manager.
If your arsehole manages our football team, I will boo it. Loudly.
So you find it inconceivable that one person could be to blame yet are quite happy to accept that collectively 25 other inviduals are?
He is the figure-head and leader of the team.if the players aren't doing the business collectively who's responsibility is it if not the manager's?
We're Tottenham Hotspur football club. The manager, the coaches, the players ALL HAVE TO TAKE THEIR SHARE. It can't simply be directed at Redknapp because that's fucking lazy.
That's it Einstein,let's get rid of all the players and keep Harry,sweet Jesus!
And when my arsehole is the manager of Spurs,I won't let you support them cos you are a lemming.
To be fair, Redknapp is being slated on several other Spurs message boards tonight - are all these people completely clueless?At the end of last season he was a **** and two games in he was still a ****, 15 games in he'd won most people around and 25 games in he was a legend and people were slitting their wrists at the thought of losing him. Now he's a ***** again.
Only on SC can you go from **** to legend and back to **** again in the space of a few games.
I've seen some utter shit posted tonight, some absolutely embarrassing drivel that a monkey on whizz couldn't dream up. At least Ashcroft is consistent, he hates Redknapp come rain or shine, but some of the most vitriolic comments are coming from people who were spreading rose petals in his path as he walked along a couple of months or so ago. Sure there's cause for complaint, but there's no balance to it.
As so it will go on. Redknapp will leave, a new guy will come in and he will be hailed as the saviour. 10 games later he's a ****. If we did eventually win a title, the poor sod in the hotseat better fucking retain it the next year and also win the CL cos if he don't he'll be a **** too.
Its a fucking sad indictment of the way people handle expectation and disappointment
SC's **** 'o' meter. More reliable than a Swiss watch.
I'll say again I think there has been plenty of criticism of the players over the last few weeks. Look at the amount of people now seriously asking questions of Modric for example.
The players have to take a share of the blame too, that there is no doubt.
Yes - Gallas, Cuddicini, Modric, Defoe have all failed in this match and been criticised in various threads on this and other message boards.You make out like a manager is some sort of puppet master in this whole thing, silently constructing every move.
The players play the game. They have to take some responsibility. I'm not calling for sacrifices in front of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, I'm just saying that the players have to take their fair share of the bile.