Is modern football more boring than e.g. 90’s football

[CanadaSpurs]

‘Simulation’. The cheating has got so bad that they had to create a phrase for it.
Of course there was cheating in the 90’s but most players didn’t and would stay on their feet if they could.
None of this ‘oh he’s been clever there and drawn the foul’ from the commentators.
Most teams and managers thinking they’ve got to play like Pep, why? Football, like any other sport, is a game that is played to win so play to your strengths, not like what Southampton have been doing.
I think what Wimbledon done was absolutely amazing, might not have been the prettiest on the eye but they had their own identity and no one wanted to play against them.
Everything just feels so staged, false and regimented, especially on the pitch.
It’s pretty boring.

In fairness this statement kind of reminds me of Dyche’s Burnley.

 

[Gassin's finest]

Tbf I think the Premier League's peak was the 00s. When I think of 90s footy I go straight to Serie A and watching the likes of Baggio, Del Piero, Gullit, Maldini, Nedved, Gazza, Signori, Recoba, Rui Costa, Batistuta, etc etc... the density of world class players in that league in that decade was just amazing.

 

[Marty]

Tbf I think the Premier League's peak was the 00s. When I think of 90s footy I go straight to Serie A and watching the likes of Baggio, Del Piero, Gullit, Maldini, Nedved, Gazza, Signori, Recoba, Rui Costa, Batistuta, etc etc... the density of world class players in that league in that decade was just amazing.

Yes for me it was Abramovich plowing money into Chelsea from 03 onwards that really shifted the balance of power. From 2004 until Pep's Barca took over the world there was no doubt that the top four PL teams were dominant in a way never seen before, like having three of four CL semi finalists two or three years running.

 

[thekneaf]

I think the 2020s will be remembered, if it continues like this, as a golden era for entertainment in the PL. Covid disrupted there leagues more, standards of all teams are increasing.

Most teams have technically top class players, goals are being scored at increased rates. If City can fall off, we could have a genuinely competitive league.

 

[Danners9]

I think the 2020s will be remembered, if it continues like this, as a golden era for entertainment in the PL. Covid disrupted there leagues more, standards of all teams are increasing.

Most teams have technically top class players, goals are being scored at increased rates. If City can fall off, we could have a genuinely competitive league.

the Fan Debate video I posted on the previous page goes into this. Most teams are pretty good now, have decent tactics that can disrupt the others, and City's passing for the sake of it is being undone by a new version of (or return to) all action, high tempo. They bemoan the loss of 'maverick' players from the late 90s, but that individuality/spontaneity is kind of coming back as the systems change and other teams emerge.

 

[riggi]

 

[SpursForever71]

Mid 80's early 90's for me all day. Maybe just because i was late teens\early 20's then.
From England 86+90's memorys, and Terry Venables Spurs (and England 96).
The players seemed to have more character back then, as well as the refs. Even the commentators like Motty and Barry Davies are more memorable than todays lot.

 

[Gassin's finest]

the Fan Debate video I posted on the previous page goes into this. Most teams are pretty good now, have decent tactics that can disrupt the others, and City's passing for the sake of it is being undone by a new version of (or return to) all action, high tempo. They bemoan the loss of 'maverick' players from the late 90s, but that individuality/spontaneity is kind of coming back as the systems change and other teams emerge.

442 will never die!

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

I think people are looking at this and just remembering how great their youth was and thinking the footy was also great. I'm 53 and for me the standard of football is far better today. Not including things like VAR, just the standard of football.

 

[SpursForever71]

I think people are looking at this and just remembering how great their youth was and thinking the footy was also great. I'm 53 and for me the standard of football is far better today. Not including things like VAR, just the standard of football.

nah my youth was shit, the most exciting part of it was the football

 

[punkisback]

I think the quality of players has dropped significantly. Take for example this Milan derby the amount of world class players in that team. Compare also United vs Arsenal so many world class players. Now barely any.

 

[theShiznit]

I actually think there's quite a good balance of styles in the prem ATM.
You have the more old school approach at Forest which is working well for them the good footy sides like Bournemouth, and occasionally us.
Wine says that on their day can really turn it on like Fulham, Brighton
A few counter attacking sides that are pretty ineffective unless they come up against attacking sides.

Some of the possession football can be pretty dour but that's as much the fault of the opposition purely trying to stifle (but fair enough if playing a superior side)

Although there's a bit too much pragmatism for my liking in a lot of teams that are looking to keep tight and hope for individual brilliance (the Jose/Conte model*)


*For us at least

 

[Armstrong_11]

I think back in the 90s.... its was more about the individuals, only 2 subs so you can't really change much from your starting 11, you could plan a 2nd half change, but that was it.

now a days its more about the team, you don't just need 18 good players, you need a 2nd 18 players as cover.

not sure which I prefer... back then there were more gamesmanship, people getting away with more dirty tricks. but today, social media has put everyone in the spotlight, even family members are under the spotlight.

 

[Danners9]

I've been watching The Premiership Years/The Premier League Years and one thing that struck me is how quickly the league improved. That is probably a big reason why this era is looked back upon so fondly.

The 92-93 season is essentially a continuation of mid-80s football. Crap stadiums, often poorly attended. Chelsea have cars parked behind the goal and Everton have a shelf at one end.

Cheesy Sky presentation aside, not much had changed.

But as the money flows, the poor teams are weeded out (some never to return) and there is a shift. Suddenly many stadiums are being redeveloped as a result of the Taylor Report. The standard of manager changes from people like Ian Porterfield/David Webb (Chelsea), Ian Branfoot (Southampton), John Lyall (Ipswich) etc - managers who began in the 70s/early 80s - to a new generation. Same with the players. It begins as a very UK-based league and quickly becomes international. The standard gets so much higher within just a few years. Attendances increase, too.

This rapid growth probably means everything is new to fans and TV audiences - the fact it's on TV so much is also new. But not quite over-saturated and the schedule wasn't as manipulated by TV as it is now. It still was, but not as bad.

I am up to 2000-01 now. It is about to become ultra tactical.

Maybe now we have seen everything and it has become so much about the money just to maintain the levels that it's eating itself.

Spurs are really crap. Only featured when losing to one of the awful teams like Swindon or Barnsley, or being beaten by a title contender. 'Six goal thriller at White Hart Lane!' shouts Georgie Thompson and it turns out to be a 4-2 defeat. While teams like Villa, Norwich and Leeds, for a short time, and later Arsenal and Chelsea really become a force.