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Stoof

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Jun 5, 2004
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You know the bloke; you know him well.

He'll sit a couple of rows in front of you or behind you and he'll moan. But he won't just moan, he'll refuse to acknowledge any positive passage of play - and instead try and find the negative in it.

So it had got to 70 mins on Saturday and he literally hadn't shut-up, so I piped up with:

"How about you fucking support them?"

A few people turned around with slight nodding approval, but he turned to me (he was 3 seats away from me on the same row) in slight disbelief and said:

"How can you support that?" referring to our current no-score-drawing side.

And I replied, with full patronising tone:

"Because that's your fucking job, mate". And he sort of muttered something.

The seats to my right are full of members (in more than one sense of the word) - they change every week, they're not season ticket holders so I see some interesting folk. But I would have thought if you get a ticket and you don't go that often, surely you'd sing up more? (He didn't sing ONCE). And surely he was old enough to know better? (He looked late 30s [generous] - early 40s).

I'm really getting disillusioned at the level of support. I sit in Block 28 (row 2) and there are really only a few of us around that sing. And if it was you (dear reader) who I told to support our team, then I'm not particularly sorry for having a go, I'm just sad that you choose to support in such a negative way. Well "support": "criticise" would be more apt.

Have you any similar tales? What are your views on our support since the Jol years that has seen us propelled to where we are now?
 

robbiedee

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Jul 6, 2012
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He wasn't slightly ginger and scottish was he?

Not a slur on gingers or scots or ginger scots but...I know a guy that went (got ticket through a member - in more than one sense of the word) and he can sometimes be hyper critical and grumpy...
 

BringBack_leGin

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I had similar at halftime of the City game. There's this loudmouth drunk who's sat near me since as far back as I can remember, and all he's ever done is shout abuse and whinge. He hasn't a good thing to say about any Spurs player, and he has to make sure that everybody hears him and his glorious opinion. This is also bearing in mind that I sit West Upper and quite central, i.e. as far away from any of the loud parts of the ground as possible, so it's impossible to drown him out and he really does ruin things for the rest of us.

Anyway, after BAE's part in the City goal, he turned on him full pelt. He spent the rest of the half abusing the guy, saying how he was a useless mercenary and if he's the best we can do at left back then it's no wonder we're still just a struggling nothing club with no aspirations (seriously), and other such banal rantings. I've cleaned the language up quite a bit by the way.

He's an older guy, I'd say late 40s, maybe even 50s, and as I queued for my bagel (I quite like the Pastrami) I hear his unmistakable, irritating, boozed up voice coming from down the corridor, still ranting to all around (and to nobody in particular) about BAE, his ugly face as red and strained as ever, and I gave in and just shouted back 'What would you do then? Who would you play?' to which he said 'I'd play Friedel at left back ahead of that useless ****'. I just replied 'It's a miracle they don't have you picking the team then' and then he started up about all the great players he'd seen and I had no right to say anything because I'm way too young to have seen what a genuinely good Spurs side looks like, and everyone around just started laughing at him. He didn't seem to care though, and no doubt he'll be the same against Sunderland.

Fool.
 

steventhfc

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May 20, 2009
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Had a guy tell me "Dembele is shit, he always gives the ball away" Swapped seats with someone at half time before I slapped him.
 

Misfit

President of The Niles Crane Fanclub
May 7, 2006
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Expectations rise, people demand more. It's ugly at times but human nature. It'll get even worse if we taste genuine success. Just ponder what it would be like for a moment.

Terrifying.
 

Krafty

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May 26, 2004
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I do love the world cup winners we sometimes have in the crowd who, having played at the highest level, under enormous pressure, won everything that's going, decide to offer the players their wise words of wisdom like 'youse fuckin shite'.

It's not especially a Spurs problem, its a society problem that is more prevalent in football.

I don't particularly mind people slagging off players after the game, down the pub, I'll happily show them they are wrong, but in the ground we should be all pulling in the same direction. Why fork out the money to have a bitch? They could do it at home for free! I generally believe there is a small minority of fans who would rather their team didn't win just so they can moan at them.
 

Misfit

President of The Niles Crane Fanclub
May 7, 2006
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I do love the world cup winners we sometimes have in the crowd who, having played at the highest level, under enormous pressure, won everything that's going, decide to offer the players their wise words of wisdom like 'youse fuckin shite'.

It's not especially a Spurs problem, its a society problem that is more prevalent in football.

I don't particularly mind people slagging off players after the game, down the pub, I'll happily show them they are wrong, but in the ground we should be all pulling in the same direction. Why fork out the money to have a bitch? They could do it at home for free! I generally believe there is a small minority of fans who would rather their team didn't win just so they can moan at them.
Yep. I'm kind of relieved/still sad (depending on my mood) that I was a regular slap bang in the middle of the wilderness yrs. I yearned for they days where I'd watch a Spurs team going into each and every game with a real chance of winning. For games after March to matter for the club and us fans. To not be so mediocre that we weren't really even the butt of jokes but occasionally got a half-hearted bit of snide contempt thrown our way.

But as I have experienced a couple of dozen times myself in the last decade and from what many regulars on here say, it's not exactly as I imagined what it would be. At the height of our pathetic worst the gloom mongers were always there but largely shouted down and drowned out by the hideously off-key singing by the pissed up yoof, including yours truly. Now, when we're no longer a laughing stock they appear to be having their day in the sun.

All very peculiar. All very human.
 

Chris12

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Mar 6, 2013
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You know the bloke; you know him well.

He'll sit a couple of rows in front of you or behind you and he'll moan. But he won't just moan, he'll refuse to acknowledge any positive passage of play - and instead try and find the negative in it.

So it had got to 70 mins on Saturday and he literally hadn't shut-up, so I piped up with:

"How about you fucking support them?"

A few people turned around with slight nodding approval, but he turned to me (he was 3 seats away from me on the same row) in slight disbelief and said:

"How can you support that?" referring to our current no-score-drawing side.

And I replied, with full patronising tone:

"Because that's your fucking job, mate". And he sort of muttered something.

The seats to my right are full of members (in more than one sense of the word) - they change every week, they're not season ticket holders so I see some interesting folk. But I would have thought if you get a ticket and you don't go that often, surely you'd sing up more? (He didn't sing ONCE). And surely he was old enough to know better? (He looked late 30s [generous] - early 40s).

I'm really getting disillusioned at the level of support. I sit in Block 28 (row 2) and there are really only a few of us around that sing. And if it was you (dear reader) who I told to support our team, then I'm not particularly sorry for having a go, I'm just sad that you choose to support in such a negative way. Well "support": "criticise" would be more apt.

Have you any similar tales? What are your views on our support since the Jol years that has seen us propelled to where we are now?
Amen Brother.. Good on you
 

Sandro30

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Jul 7, 2011
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I nearly had a fight at the Basel game. Sat next to a guy who had two kids and was just sitting there moaning and whining the whole game. Telling his kids to watch Adebayor and how he was going to F it up each time. Obviously told him to support the shirt and the team when he was standing up celebrating Ade's goal which caused him to get the right hump.

I can accept people being negative when necessary, but not when the team need you and especially when you're teaching your kids this way of "support".
 

E17yid

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Jan 21, 2013
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"How can you support that"

What a fucking tool. Errrrrr, did you support us during the 90s? Not sure if he is aware but we had a much worse team and played shite week in week out.

Well done for attempting to put him in his place Stoof. The thing I don't get is why people like that go to the Lane in the first place, seeing as there support is based on whether we win or not. Surely it's just better to save you money and watch it on TV/internet?

I'm not a STH but always manage to get to the Lane 6-12 times per year. While I always want to see us Win, my support is not dependant on that. I'm sure the majority of fans look at Spurs in exactly the same way and there are lots who do not get the chance to get to go to matches, instead there are pricks like this who don't get behind the team.

I know it's to do with us getting better over the last few years and thus expectations rise but I refuse to accpet this on a philosophical level. I see Spurs as being a member of my family. Of course I want wants best for them and will always encourage them to be a "sucess" in life but before anything else you love your family, even if they fail you support them, encourage them, you are there for them when they fall to help them back up on there feet. Spurs are no different.

COYS
 

soup

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May 26, 2004
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Every Saturday I have to sit next to someone who constantly moans and whinges about Spurs, it doesn't even matter if we're winning.

I always end up telling her to get off the bloody sofa and to the shops or something and stop ruining my viewing pleasure. ;)
 

absolute bobbins

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You see this more and more at the Lane and it's really doing my head in, I've been a few times this year and sat all over the place and these 'fans' are multiplying.
You sing or try to start a chant and they look at you like you've been caught banging their daughter on their bed and not stopped when discovered.

From what I have heard, from someone architecturally in the know is that the new stadium will be looking to group these fans together but that is still years away and may not even help.
Our job is to make as much noise as possible and get behind the 11 on the field and support the coaching decisions too, don't boo a substitution when it's made and if you must, sound your discontent after the match (like RichSpur does on here), fine!

It is imperative from the first to the last minute of play you sing for the XI in that shirt
 

TEESSIDE1

Married, new job and Spurs on the up!
Jul 3, 2006
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Was the bloke a member of this site and known as 'Bus-Conductor' by any chance, lol ;)
 

BringBack_leGin

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Was the bloke a member of this site and known as 'Bus-Conductor' by any chance, lol

Harsh. Even if you disagree with him a fair bit, and I have done probably as often as I've agreed with him over the years, you should at least be able to tell from the erudition behind his posts and the intelligence with which he makes his points that he's not one of those morons who stoop to that level. He's one of the last posters here, despite his dislike of several popular players, who I'd ever suspect of being a poor supporter.
 

TEESSIDE1

Married, new job and Spurs on the up!
Jul 3, 2006
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Harsh. Even if you disagree with him a fair bit, and I have done probably as often as I've agreed with him over the years, you should at least be able to tell from the erudition behind his posts and the intelligence with which he makes his points that he's not one of those morons who stoop to that level. He's one of the last posters here, despite his dislike of several popular players, who I'd ever suspect of being a poor supporter.

I'm only teasing, light hearted banter :).
 

talkshowhost86

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Oct 2, 2004
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If you sit in the second row and were having an argument with someone 2 rows in front of you then frankly you've only got yourself to blame.
 

talkshowhost86

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On a serious note though I feel Stoof's pain.

Having sat with the big man until this season, I know that, even though there are some genuinely knowledgeable and seemingly realistic fans around, there are also a lot of people who seemingly just go to have a bit of a moan.

Some of these people are definitely old enough to remember times when we were lauding the likes of Johnny Jackson, so they really should know better now that we find ourselves actually being quite good.

It's massively frustrating and one of the reasons why I haven't missed going to games for the majority of this season.

As Misfit says though, success appears to breed twattery (I'm paraphrasing) and the better we get the more it'll be likely to become an issue.
 

TEESSIDE1

Married, new job and Spurs on the up!
Jul 3, 2006
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On a serious note though I feel Stoof's pain.

Having sat with the big man until this season, I know that, even though there are some genuinely knowledgeable and seemingly realistic fans around, there are also a lot of people who seemingly just go to have a bit of a moan.

Some of these people are definitely old enough to remember times when we were lauding the likes of Johnny Jackson, so they really should know better now that we find ourselves actually being quite good.

It's massively frustrating and one of the reasons why I haven't missed going to games for the majority of this season.

As Misfit says though, success appears to breed twattery (I'm paraphrasing) and the better we get the more it'll be likely to become an issue.

1 of 5 ex/current players playing for Charlton on Saturday (Button, Dervite, Gower, Jackson and Obika).
 

theShiznit

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Jul 26, 2004
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That's the thing though, it only takes a few of these arseholes to really poison the atmosphere (and not in a good way like Sunderland fans o_O)

I'm fed up of talking about it but that's one of the main reasons I stopped going; because I was nearly getting into fights every week with our own "fans"

Used to go with a real good guy who never had a bad word to say about anyone, but the last few years he has been going with some real numpties so when I saw him last and heard some of the shit he was spouting about Spurs under AVB "There used to be a club there" and other nonsensical shit, it can only be because of the twats he goes with, none of whom sing, but just sit there groaning, and heckling Adebayor, BAE, Gallas, Walker, and anyone else who dares to try anything above the ordinary but fails.

And then they boo if no one attempts anything other than sideways passes?

Is it any wonder no one's trying anything you fucktards, you'll boo them at the first mistake, so why not pass the buck.
 
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