Harry Redknapp gone

[StartingPrice]

I can't see any connection with the much-loved character from 'Last of the Summer Wine'.

Ah! You mean compensation!

No, apparently this offer was made in February or March, and Harry turned it down. The reason I brought it up is that Harry's taking the England job was the perfect opportunity to replace him with a young manager more fully attuned to Levy's long-term vision. I could buy that. So, why try and deter Harry from taking the England job?

Another possibility (far be it from me to accredit Mr Levy with such Machiavellan verve) that he really did believe that 'Arry was getting the job, and didn't in the least expect him to accept a new contract. A bit of a conspiracy theory, I know, but that way Levy could convince the fans that he really wanted to keep Redknapp and did everything he could to so keep him, but, at the same time, get the compensation (as Jonathon suggests), and replace Mr Redknapp.

But, again, its only a hypothesis, and a bit of a conspiracy theory.

 

[SpurSince57]

It does.
I believe that even the England-Gate coinciding slump and Chelsea's CL triumph, robbing us of CL football, could have been brushed over - I don't really think it was just about results (which, to clarify, as I have said it several times, did mean us finishing 4th and qualifying for CL, which was the target last August).
I don't think his spouting BS while Levy was burying his mother helped.
What I do think, and this weighed heavily in my thinking in reaching the conclusion that it may be time to part company, is that he pretty much earned the right to take us into the CL again. But that, at 65, and with a heart condition, having had the CL taken away from him, we were more likely than not to be making a change within a season or two, so we may be as well doing it now. It's not even anti-Redknapp, really. As has been said in the AVB debate, planning for the future is important, but so are results on the field now. It may be that in (allegedly) preparing that contract, Levy was focussed more on the now, which looked like it could even include an outside challenge at the title. But when it came to the parting of the ways, Redknapp overplayed his hand, he didn't have the CL to compete in, and it seemed like a good opportunity to switch to a younger manager, better adjusted to the 'project'.

I don't think it was a decision that was reached before the season ended, or even before Mr Redknapp hired his new negotiator and started overplaying his hand.

But, there again, I am hypothesising, I don't know any of this, any more than most members of the forum.

But at the time Harry made his remarks, no-one was sure whether the old dear was dead or not, and he was at some pro-am golf bash in the Scottish Borders and unlikely to have heard the news anyway, so I don't think one can be sanctimonious over this. Well, people like adie and Dan can…

 

[StartingPrice]

But at the time Harry made his remarks, no-one was sure whether the old dear was dead or not, and he was at some pro-am golf bash in the Scottish Borders and unlikely to have heard the news anyway, so I don't think one can be sanctimonious over this. Well, people like adie and Dan can…

1) I didn't know that. The way I understood it, it was after the death. Did he say it before Levy's Mum passed away, and then repeat them?
2) Yeah, but we are dealing with human emotion here. I'm sure Mr Levy seeing it and hearing it at the time, wouldn't necessarily be reasoning that it was said a few minutes or days before his Mother died, more like "Will thatan ever shut up."
3) I don't necessarily think it was the primary consideration.

 

[NEVILLEB]

Can't believe Levy didn't have someone lined up.

The wait isn't doing us any favours

 

[camaj]

Last time he had someone lined up everyone moaned, now he's doing things the other way and people are still moaning. We'll get someone in, just as long as it doesn't take 3/4 of a season like post-hoddle. Still we ended up with Jol so maybe it's not a bad strategy.

 

[TheGreenLily]

Can't believe Levy didn't have someone lined up.

The wait isn't doing us any favours

I read somewhere on this forum that he did.... Roger's, but he got the timing all wrong and Liverpool snapped him up.

Whether that is true or not, I don't know, but I did read it here. Would also make sense as we are not the quickest at things.

 

[sloth]

FTR Harry was surprised he got the boot. In actual fact he'd become very complacent. Why had he become complacent?

Because he had the best win rate of any Spurs manager since Bill Nic?

Because he got us to our 2 highest ever EPL finishes?

Because he got us to the UCL QF in our inaugural qualification?

Because he had us playing the best brand of football I'd ever seen in my time supporting this great club?

More fool him

Except they're not quite in context are they. If you take things out of context you'd say that Dalglish had a better, more successful season in the PL than Rodgers, with Liverpool getting 52 points and Swansea only 47, and yet most agree Liverpool were right to replace the former with the latter.

 

[eddiebailey]

Except they're not quite in context are they. If you take things out of context you'd say that Dalglish had a better, more successful season in the PL than Rodgers, with Liverpool getting 52 points and Swansea only 47, and yet most agree Liverpool were right to replace the former with the latter.

That's daft. Dalglish underachieved with his resources; Rodgers overachieved with his. Harry arguably overachieved with his resources, the context is that most recent Spurs managers certainly did not.

 

[sloth]

That's daft. Dalglish underachieved with his resources; Rodgers overachieved with his. Harry arguably overachieved with his resources, the context is that most recent Spurs managers certainly did not.

The bolded bit is precisely the point isn't it? Is getting 60 points or whatever with a team of David Howell's, Justin Edinburgh's, Mauricio Tarricco's, and Andy Sinton's, better or worse than getting 69 points with Bale, Modric, Adebayor, Parker, Gallas, and co?

Which we could have an argument about, or agree about, but which the simple listing of finishing places says nothing about.

 

[luptic]

id agree that levy should of had a manager lined up, but realistically it really isnt doing us any harm, we are probably still chasing targets, trying to sell dead wood, etc. The only probem for me is, if it dragged into the start of pre-season. Ideally we should announce a new manager at the start of July and get in the targets we are after.
We can get deals done quickly if needed, as the deadline transfers have shown, but like all transfers at the start of the window they normally drag out because the selling club is looking for the best deal.

 

[sparx100]

Harry Redknapp has gone?

 

[Original # 10]

Except they're not quite in context are they. If you take things out of context you'd say that Dalglish had a better, more successful season in the PL than Rodgers, with Liverpool getting 52 points and Swansea only 47, and yet most agree Liverpool were right to replace the former with the latter.

Nothing like a bit of context eh

 

[spursfan1991]

I noticed poch has left spurs thread has popped up so its only fair harrys thread is too. I think we should have backed him. Very unlucky to get fired despite finishing 4th.

 

[chrissivad]

Took his eye off the ball when he was wanting the England job.

 

[Dougal]

I noticed poch has left spurs thread has popped up so its only fair harrys thread is too. I think we should have backed him. Very unlucky to get fired despite finishing 4th.

I’d take him back tonight.

 

[Cheltenham Spur]

Anyone else see this and think he had passed away? No? Ok, as you were.

 

[riggi]

Should’ve been given another season imo.

 

[rossdapep]

Well I know he rocked up at QPR and barely put any effort in and treated it as if the club were below him. He put a lot of effort into his interviews though.

Ex player told me that and said they preferred Hughes to him.

I think when he realised he wasn't getting the England job his desire went.

We sacked him at the right time.

 

[beats1]

-------------Adebayor------------
Bale -------- VDV ---------- Lennon
-------Modric ----- Parker
BAE -- King -- Gallas -- Walker
-------------Friedel---------------

This team won nothing and finished 4th

The football was amazing, Levy let us down by not backing us in the transfer window and Harry underachieved with this team. Also I know Ledley was at the end of his career and hardly playing but Kaboul was brilliant at that time as well

All these statements can be true and are imo

Meanwhile Arsenal finished 3rd with this team
------------------Van Persie------------
Rosicky -------- Ramsey ---------- Walcott
-------Song ----- Arteta
Gibbs -- Vermaelen -- Koscielny -- Sagna
-------------Sir Cheesy---------------

Meanwhile this team won the CL and took our spot
-------------Drogba------------
Bertrand -------- Mata ---------- Kalou
-------Lampard ----- Mikel
Cole -- Luiz -- Cahill -- Bosingwa
-------------Cech---------------

 

[beats1]

Should’ve been given another season imo.

You're only saying that because AVB turned out to be terrible