Harry Kane

[JayB]

Can’t take the risk. Got to sell him. He signs precontract in January.

We'd probably be able to sell him abroad in January despite the fact that he can sign a pre-contract, IMO.

Clubs on the continent will know it's their only realistic chance of getting him, as he's very likely to stay within the PL and chase the record if he leaves on a free. Our bargaining position would be massively undermined, but at a smaller fee I think you'd see the likes of Madrid and Barca get involved in addition to Bayern. Clubs of that stature will be willing to snap up an elite striker for a modest fee if they think it's their best/only chance at the deal.

There is, of course, the risk that he refuses to move abroad come January or that none of the clubs he'd accept come in for him then, but it may be worth taking if we truly think there's a reasonable likelihood Ange and the club can convince him to stay.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Maddison has worn #10 for the last five years, previously he's worn 23, 28, 36 and 10. 36 is open, 23 is worn by Porro, and 28 is worn by TN. Is he waiting for a certain number to become available? I'm sure he doesn't know what he's waiting for. /sarc

He is clearly waiting for a number to open up - but at the same time, if he really thought Kane were leaving (and opening up 10) - I doubt Maddison would spend so much time buddying up to Kane on this trip.

Just a guess of course, but I think Maddison would rather Kane stay, and take a different number than get the 10 shirt.

 

[lobob8]

He is clearly waiting for a number to open up - but at the same time, if he really thought Kane were leaving (and opening up 10) - I doubt Maddison would spend so much time buddying up to Kane on this trip.

Just a guess of course, but I think Maddison would rather Kane stay, and take a different number than get the 10 shirt.

He'll definitely want to play with him. As we want to see them play together.

 

[sundanceyid10]

Yeah if he's got any sense he stays put, regardless of what Bayern offer.

Bayern will probably still be in for him in a year's time if he fancies that move, only he'll have about 5 other offers to pick from and a mega signing-on fee to boot. Plus he can chip away at the PL record for an extra year.

I'm actually kinda surprised Kane let his brother be quite so forward with Bayern given, strategically, he's got better options if he stays put for a year, although that could just be Charlie being a people-pleasing amateur who can't help himself when confronted with the big-wigs.

Exactly, I don’t think he is going anywhere. All these stories are just wish fulfilment. Looking at it in cold hard facts the benefits for Kane seeing out his contract are enormous for HIM, not so much for us as a club or Bayern for example. But for Kane seeing out his contract the benefits are huge and he holds all the cards in the present situation.

 

[sundanceyid10]

If someone believed there was a chance of him signing a new contract (which was reported by Ornstein, for example), then, well, now it seems there's no chance of that.

I don't think we've got much leverage now if we want to squeeze Bayern. It depends if we think that playing him this season will bring us 80+ million in additional revenue or not.

And if Kane decides he doesn’t want the move (highly likely), there is nothing we can do. Why is he going to choose that when the option of seeing out his contract is so beneficial to him. He is going to have huge options in less than a year.

 

[sundanceyid10]

Multiple journalists, including Ornstein, Law and Gold all said he was considering all options, including him possibly signing a new deal, just not while the window is still open.

This is now saying emphatically he won't extend full stop.

Optimistic hope is that this is Charlie going to the media. Realistic is probably that the Kane deal has effectively been agreed for some time and it's all a PR campaign from all parties. Just look at all the replies saying we should cash in now.

Why would he next season he will have every option under the sun including staying at Spurs if he wished, staying in England with another club if wants. Massive signing bonus option with any team, free of Levy choosing to negotiate only with certain clubs.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Call me naive, but I actually think that if we can hold firm through the summer we've got as good a chance as we could get of him signing an extension once the window closes. Provided of course that Ange works his magic and the results go the way we all hope. I just think that it might give him pause to really think about it, and putting all the factors together why not stay? Optimistic, I know.

Honestly, I think the only scenario that he signs if we win silverware next year, and get back in the Champs League

And even then, I think he's got it in his mind that he'd like to play for a Mega team - why else would you go to a weaker league? So maybe a 1 in 4 chance, guessing.

Those are not great odds

 

[sundanceyid10]

I think in the end Levy and Co. will be more fearful to lose Kane to United, City, Chelsea, and co. on a free than to Bayern for a fixed amount.

He's more than proved his worth in any sort of transfer fee but it would be the PR disasters of disasters if he goes to another top 6 PL club and is scoring on us next season. I totally get he can be the difference to get us CL football and can change his mind so we shall see

Levy and Co have little to no choice in the matter at this point. They can’t make Kane do anything.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Why would he next season he will have every option under the sun including staying at Spurs if he wished, staying in England with another club if wants. Massive signing bonus option with any team, free of Levy choosing to negotiate only with certain clubs.

Yup

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

We need multiple players capable of double figures really. I do think Richarlison can do that, as can Son and Maddison. I think we need at least one more scorer on top. I think Kulusevski could be capable and maybe Soloman. However we definitely need to increase those odds by getting a new centre forward too of Kane goes. There's no doubt the style that Ange plays will provide goals all over. We've seen Brighton outscore us and Newcastle only 2 goals behind without a Kane level forward.

I hate to constantly bring up this comparison but it is akin to Liverpool replace Suarez and then Coutinho with Mane, Firminho and Salah. Whilst strengthening their real weaknesses in Midfield and Defence. Overall they lost one of the best strikers in the premier league but went on to win so much more without him.

We have Son, Richy, Kulusevski and Maddison. Add another pacey forward to that line-up and we can spread the goals around whilst playing very fluid, dangerous football.

 

[lobob8]

I think people also forget that regardless of whether he wants to go now or not that Levy/the club doesn't want to sell so it's moot

 

[sundanceyid10]

Can’t take the risk. Got to sell him. He signs precontract in January.

And when he refuses clubs that suit Levy and not him and decides to see out his contract ends. Nothing we can do.

This all needed resolving way before now. Amazing how people think Kane will just agree to being sold to whoever WE want now and sacrifice a massive opportunity for himself (including staying at Spurs) in less than a years time when his contract ends. He isn’t stupid.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Levy and Co have little to no choice in the matter at this point. They can’t make Kane do anything.

You love to make this point. Over. and over. and over. and over.

You are a bit naive, but you are persistent.

There is value - to Kane - in going to Bayern this summer. If he stays at Spurs, he loses a year of his prime to be playing in, and competing for CL.

He also would be able to sign a new longer term deal - with financial security. Staying at Spurs, and he risks a long-term injury - even if its a minor risk - its not no-risk.

So to suggest he has only one play here, is really just a function of what you would do - not an indication of what Kane might do. Kane might stay. Kane might leave. Neither are certain.

Levy and Co won't be forcing Kane out of the club - or forcing him to do anything he does not want. If they negotiate a deal with Bayern - it will be because Bayern have already negotiated a deal with Kane.

 

[sundanceyid10]

I think people also forget that regardless of whether he wants to go now or not that Levy/the club doesn't want to sell so it's moot

That or Levy realises that Kane simply wants to see out his contract and that there is nothing Levy can do at this point. In that scenario Levy will spin it as Kane wanted to stay and we did all we could.

The time for Levy to build a great squad and impress Kane to stay was years ago, not desperately in the last year of his deal and at the beginning of yet another Levy project.

 

[soflapaul]

7 new pages in 4 hours. no new information. go figure

(Tells you how important he is to us)

 

[lobob8]

That or Levy realises that Kane simply wants to see out his contract and that there is nothing Levy can do at this point. In that scenario Levy will spin it as Kane wanted to stay and we did all we could.

The time for Levy to build a great squad and impress Kane to stay was years ago, not desperately in the last year of his deal and at the beginning of yet another Levy project.

While this is true, I still think Levy will know what it'll do to his image if he lets Kane go. He'll be trying to get him to stay to the last minute if need be.

 

[sundanceyid10]

You love to make this point. Over. and over. and over. and over.

You are a bit naive, but you are persistent.

There is value - to Kane - in going to Bayern this summer. If he stays at Spurs, he loses a year of his prime to be playing in, and competing for CL.

He also would be able to sign a new longer term deal - with financial security. Staying at Spurs, and he risks a long-term injury - even if its a minor risk - its not no-risk.

So to suggest he has only one play here, is really just a function of what you would do - not an indication of what Kane might do. Kane might stay. Kane might leave. Neither are certain.

Levy and Co won't be forcing Kane out of the club - or forcing him to do anything he does not want. If they negotiate a deal with Bayern - it will be because Bayern have already negotiated a deal with Kane.

He gains far more than looses, he still plays a year in the Premier League, bangs in goals, gets closer to Shearers record, he can even choose to stay at the end. Absolutely perfect scenario for him. It’s not one play, seeing out his contract gives him every play and complete control, that’s just a fact. It might not be what people want to hear but it is a fact. There is no nativity in that at all.

It’s not what I would do at all. But it is utterly naive thinking Kane is not thinking this way.

 

[sundanceyid10]

While this is true, I still think Levy will know what it'll do to his image if he lets Kane go. He'll be trying to get him to stay to the last minute if need be.

I agree i’m sure he will be and I really hope he finds a way to convince him. I think it’s a long shot but I would love nothing more than see Kane play his whole career with us. That would be a truly wonderful thing in this day and age of football.

 

[lobob8]

I agree i’m sure he will be and I really hope he finds a way to convince him. I think it’s a long shot but I would love nothing more than see Kane play his whole career with us. That would be a truly wonderful thing in this day and age of football.

Same mate. I think that's what we'd all love to see. As long as there's any chance that that could happen, we should push for it.

 

[mil1lion]

I hate to constantly bring up this comparison but it is akin to Liverpool replace Suarez and then Coutinho with Mane, Firminho and Salah. Whilst strengthening their real weaknesses in Midfield and Defence. Overall they lost one of the best strikers in the premier league but went on to win so much more without him.

We have Son, Richy, Kulusevski and Maddison. Add another pacey forward to that line-up and we can spread the goals around whilst playing very fluid, dangerous football.

It was also a big failing under Poch. We should have got Grealish when we had the chance so would have had a good replacement when Eriksen left (more for assists but also a share of goals). Then you get Lo Celso to repla e Eriksen and compete with Grealish so you're less reliant on one player in that role. We never really had a good replacement for Dele when he went off form either and he had a purple patch for goals. Then the forward recruitment's were a nightmare where we just couldn't get good competition for Kane. We didn't have that future planning in place for these players. You never know if a player gets a serious injury, decides to leave or just loses form for some time. We seem to at least be improving in this area the last few years.