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IGSpur

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Think this has been a great year for English youngsters

Louie Sibley goes from strength to strength at Derby. Good to see them trying to make the most of their strong age group and doing their best to bring them all through. This will stand Derby in good stead. Plus Whittaker scored for them

Poveda got his first assist at Leeds, and they had another academy graduate scoring.

Brewster bagged another quality goal at Swansea. Abraham got himself to 15 PL goals in his first proper season as a Chelsea striker, plsu Chelsea giving chances to loads more. Greenwood got his chances and has done well.

Like to see Curtis Jones get on. Bellingham moving to Dortmund, Sancho out did his last season with 17 goals and 16 assists showing it wasn't a flash in the pan. Edwards had a great season in Portugal. And while I know Matondo is representing Wales, and I'v mentioned him a few times before, it's still pleasing to see him doing well at Schalke and seeing these guys make postive moves abroad.

Really hope Duncan finds his old shooting boots next season at Fiorentina as it would be great for our strike force if he could show even a slight bit of the talent he had when he was young. That age group had a pretty ruthless attack.

All coming together nicely tbh
 

emiley heskey

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So england's striker options for euro :

1. Harry kane
2. Rashford
3. Greenwood
4. Abraham
5. Ings
6. Vardy

Then they have goalscoring wingers like Sancho, Sterling.

Will Harry Kane gets chance in england setup anymore?
 

Montalbano

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Will Harry Kane gets chance in england setup anymore?
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spurs9

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So england's striker options for euro :

1. Harry kane
2. Rashford
3. Greenwood
4. Abraham
5. Ings
6. Vardy

Then they have goalscoring wingers like Sancho, Sterling.

Will Harry Kane gets chance in england setup anymore?
Kane has outscored Abraham this season, Rashford has been playing LW, Greenwood has been playing RW, Vardy has retired from international football, I doubt 1 good season will catapult Ings ahead of Kane.

England has some great options for that front 3 and the oldest is Kane at 26.

SC - Kane & Abraham
LW - Sancho, Rashford & Hudson-Odoi
RW - Sterling & Greenwood
 

edson

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Watch this fast because sometimes they take them down.

Very good interview with Luis Binks and he did not want to be playing u23 football and he gives some good advice to players who are trying to make it towards the end of the interview,maybe we should have told him he would not play u23 football and loan him out and who knows he might have stayed.

 
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IGSpur

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Kane has outscored Abraham this season, Rashford has been playing LW, Greenwood has been playing RW, Vardy has retired from international football, I doubt 1 good season will catapult Ings ahead of Kane.

England has some great options for that front 3 and the oldest is Kane at 26.

SC - Kane & Abraham
LW - Sancho, Rashford & Hudson-Odoi
RW - Sterling & Greenwood

Who would you, and others prefer to see as England's second striker then. You have Abraham there, is that because it's your preference or you just categorising based on positions, and prefer say Rashford there? Or woudl you prefer Ings, and just excluded him based on age
 

spurs9

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Who would you, and others prefer to see as England's second striker then. You have Abraham there, is that because it's your preference or you just categorising based on positions, and prefer say Rashford there? Or woudl you prefer Ings, and just excluded him based on age
I had Abraham there to show how bright the future is in those front 3 positions. If we had a tournament this summer, I would be using the friendlies beforehand to decide between Ings and Abraham.
 

IGSpur

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@edson apparently Angel Gomes is going to Lille, then will go on loan to Boavista for a year. Sounds like a good plan for him. He's settle well in Portugal you'd imagine knowing the language. If he can do well there then go back to Lille, could really get him back on track
 

mill

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So england's striker options for euro :

1. Harry kane
2. Rashford
3. Greenwood
4. Abraham
5. Ings
6. Vardy

Then they have goalscoring wingers like Sancho, Sterling.

Will Harry Kane gets chance in england setup anymore?
Jesus Christ
 

IGSpur

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somehow missed transfer of Tariq Lamptey to Brighton - surely worth a push from us?

In what sense? Hes just as inexperienced as KWP I think.

On a side note, next year is lining up to be so interesting. Quite a few internal moves and some abroad. Look forward to seeing how they turn out and some of the players that have been abroad for a year or two might start coming through
 

Blake Griffin

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josh martin at norwich looks an interesting talent, they picked him up from arsenal's academy last year and he's been making quite an impact in pre-season banging in a few goals. have you seen anything of him @IGSpur?
 

DCSPUR

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In what sense? Hes just as inexperienced as KWP I think.

On a side note, next year is lining up to be so interesting. Quite a few internal moves and some abroad. Look forward to seeing how they turn out and some of the players that have been abroad for a year or two might start coming through

saw him play for chelsea last year and thought he was terrific
 

IGSpur

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saw him play for chelsea last year and thought he was terrific

Ye hes excellent. One of the many top RBs.

That age group have him, Bogle, Aarons, Hinds, Lavinier, Sessegnon and some CBs that can play there.

I would've taken Lamptey here but with so little experience would he stand any better chance of playing over KWP
 

IGSpur

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josh martin at norwich looks an interesting talent, they picked him up from arsenal's academy last year and he's been making quite an impact in pre-season banging in a few goals. have you seen anything of him @IGSpur?
Na i haven't mate. Unless I remember them playing against us or for England I most likely wouldn't have watched them.
 

IGSpur

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Mohammed Ali Cho, one of the talents from the 04 age group has made his Ligue 1 debut at Angiers. There have been issues over which country he'd choose between us and France having been born there, but he's been here since he was 10.

Now he's left Everton I imagine he might be leaning towards France which would be sad. Wanted to see him, Shoretire, Scarlett et al all play together
 

Blake Griffin

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ainsley maitland-niles making the england squad is funny to me, maybe it's a fault on my part but when you've watched players from the age of 16/17 it's hard to separate your mind from what they were like at youth level. maitland-niles was always a decent player coming through, hence why he was often part of strong england age groups but at no point was he ever on onomah's level. i remember during the u20 world cup, josh got himself suspended for the semis so amn came in for him and did a good job, some were questioning whether he should keep his place but onomah rightfully came straight back into the team for the final and the simple reason for that is because he was the better player. now fast forward a few years and amn is in the england squad whilst onomah has only really just got his career going.

if you ask people now who the better player is then of course they are going to say amn but for me it's just circumstantial as to why he's found himself where he has and where onomah currently is, i really believe that a lot of it is down to sheer luck and who gets the right breaks at the right time. of course some players will hit the top regardless but for others they can end up going either way purely because of a few variables beyond their control.

when everyone was going nuts over sessegnon calling him the next bale and how we have to get him at any cost, it's hard to take seriously when you're watching him at youth level not stand out amongst many other players a lot of fans wouldn't have even heard of at that point. even later on for the u21s he was playing alongside kwp/onomah & co and he actually really struggled, it should be said that he's 3 years younger so that's perfectly reasonable but most fans only care what they see/hear of them at senior level. if sessegnon had come through our academy he would be exactly where skipp is now. he wouldn't have 100+ games under his belt, he would have 10 if he was lucky and he'd be seen as nothing more than that youth kid who trains with the first team and makes the odd cup appearance but because he came through at fulham we end up spending a massive amount to bring him here.
 
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Sweech

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ainsley maitland-niles making the england squad is funny to me, maybe it's a fault on my part but when you've watched players from the age of 16/17 it's hard to separate your mind from what they were like at youth level. maitland-niles was always a decent player coming through, hence why he was often part of strong england age groups but at no point was he ever on onomah's level. i remember during the u20 world cup, josh got himself suspended for the semis so amn came in for him and did a good job, some were questioning whether he should keep his place but onomah rightfully came straight back into the team for the final and the simple reason for that is because he was the better player. now fast forward a few years and amn is in the england squad whilst onomah has only really just got his career going.

if you ask people now who the better player is then of course they are going to say amn but for me it's just circumstantial as to why he's found himself where he has and where onomah currently is, i really believe that a lot of it is down to sheer luck and who gets the right breaks at the right time. of course some players will hit the top regardless but for others they can end up going either way purely because of a few variables beyond their control.

when everyone was going nuts over sessegnon calling him the next bale and how we have to get him at any cost, it's hard to take seriously when you're watching him at youth level not stand out amongst many other players a lot of fans wouldn't have even heard of at that point. even later on for the u21s he was playing alongside kwp/onomah & co and he actually really struggled, it should be said that he's 3 years younger so that's perfectly reasonable but most fans only care what they see/hear of them at senior level. if sessegnon had come through our academy he would be exactly where skipp is now. he wouldn't have 100+ games under his belt, he would have 10 if he was lucky and he'd be seen as nothing more than that youth kid who trains with the first team and makes the odd cup appearance but because he came through at fulham we end up spending a massive amount to bring him here.
That’s a MASSIVE difference at that age though.
 

edson

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Good interview with Christian Maghoma who talks about some of his old teammates at Spurs and how poor u23 football is.

He was a player that was never going to make it with Spurs but good to see him doing well.

 

Blake Griffin

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That’s a MASSIVE difference at that age though.

i agree but for a player with his reputation, senior experience and mammoth transfer fee you would expect him to standout regardless. imagine me saying at the time that he's not a better player right now than kwp, onomah or some other fringe premier league player, i'd have been laughed off the forum. you only have to look at when we signed him people were expecting a player who can make an impact right away or at least in the not too distant future, which is a reasonable view to have given how much he cost. the truth is though he has looked just as lost and ineffective playing for england's u21s as he has with us. if he's struggling at that level then on what basis can he help the first team any time soon?

obviously we signed sessegnon mostly with the long-term in mind so if he's not making much impact right now then that's not a big issue but i'm not convinced he has this massive untapped potential just waiting to be unlocked either. we let edwards go for a bag of skittles and for my money he has far more to his game than sessegnon, at least as an attacking player.
 
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