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pangtong

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Yes, but he's still furloughing staff which I think people had issues with due to using tax payers money.

For me, topping up the staff eliminates any issue I have with it.

"In view of supporter sentiment regarding the scheme, it is now not our intention to make use of the current CJRS that runs until the end of May."
 

Lighty64

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@[email protected] and @Colonel Dax please feel free to tell me what you disagree with and point out the errors i may have made. Discussion is healthy and i thought the point of a forum.

Reading this morning adidas are looking for a near 2bn bailout and the same for airline Emirates. Thay could cause our neighbours massive issues. If you think this isnt going to be wide across the board then id say all being very optimistic. I hope im wrong i dont want to be on lockdown for months just to be right on this. However when i look at china who since ending the lockdown (Much stricter than ours) have started reporting new cases which has increased daily makes me realise that these lockdown measures will be a rolling thing. We might be out for a couple of weeks but then back in. Those who can work from home will have to continue to do so. I just dont see it being a quick thing like some are hoping for. China first had it according to some reports in october and are still reporting new cases today thats 6months. Out first case was Jan 31st so you are looking at July and we will still be getting new cases. Whether we get to a point where we have to just accept that we might get it etc and return to normal life no one knows. But i cant see Boris having had it and almost dying from it sanctioning such action.

you've more chance of winning the lotto than an answer out of john, he thrives on anything negative about ENIC, and with them now changing their minds, the next thing he will be negative about will be that we don't spend 300m in the transfer market. him and @MK Yid would be the 1's wearing ENIC out t-shirts if handed out
 

buckley

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the press will surely as always find something out of this u-turn to figuratively bash the club with negative vibes and this of course is just par for reporting regarding spurs the club from hell and all who sail in her .
 

spursfan77

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Just been on the official site and aside from the PR mess of the furlough scheme the club are doing a lot of good things.They've basically turned part of the stadium into an antenatal clinic to relive pressure on the local hospital and avoid the need for pregnant women to attend the hospital lessening their risk.

It was announced a day or so after the accounts came out but ignored by most fans as it was good news!
 

Trotter

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This was forced on to Levy by the players, and at least the right thing has now been done, even if through gritted teeth.
Now the players will be at least willing to sit down and have dialogue with the club about salary deferrals etc.
 
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JCRD

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As im reading it - we aere still furloughing staff but they wont be at a financial loss - so we will in effect top up their salary

Yet the majority of the media, in fact all the media, is about the club reversing its use of furlough

Am I mistaken?

Nonetheless it is great for the staff that they will be paid up for this month and next month
 

robin09

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Disagree with the U-turn.

We don’t know how long it will be before the club can start operating again.
People seem to be assuming this mess is done and dusted by the end of May. The club doesn’t know that, nobody knows that, so they have to assume the worst and plan to cut costs wherever possible in case they’re stuck with hundreds of staff and a £1bn redundant stadium. Especially when the government are offering assistance, it made sense to use it.

Secondly, some fans are celebrating that this ‘secures’ the non-playing staffs jobs. It does the opposite. They’ve just forced the club to shell out more money than they needed to,therefore increasing their losses. Losses make jobs less safe.

Thirdly, I hope the fans who demanded a u-turn, don’t send angry tweets and hashtags when the clubs spending is reduced in the transfer market as a probable consequence of the business being frozen.
 

Trotter

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you've more chance of winning the lotto than an answer out of john, he thrives on anything negative about ENIC, and with them now changing their minds, the next thing he will be negative about will be that we don't spend 300m in the transfer market. him and @MK Yid would be the 1's wearing ENIC out t-shirts if handed out

Not me. If the money is not there would have no issues if we don't spend at all in the transfer market, even if it is desperately needed.

Where I take umbrage is where the money was obviously there (just look at our recent profits) and was not invested in to the playing squad, and people defending the club just saying well we haven't got the money (listing loads of reasons why they think we haven't without having the first understanding of accounting), and then 10 months later when accounts are published, that just gets destroyed as a theory.
 
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Spurs 1961

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As im reading it - we aere still furloughing staff but they wont be at a financial loss - so we will in effect top up their salary

Yet the majority of the media, in fact all the media, is about the club reversing its use of furlough

Am I mistaken?

Nonetheless it is great for the staff that they will be paid up for this month and next month

Staff may be furloughed but Tottenham will not be using government money until at least the end of May
 

wrd

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Great to see the club taking care of the staff, I wasn't too thrilled to see it in the first place but kept my opinion out of it because frankly I don't know the financial ramifications, I didn't know the cost of the 550 staffs wages and what we stand to lose. If I had had those numbers then maybe I'd have had something to say but I'm glad the club has listened and I hope it's because they've found an effective way of dealing with the issue which doesn't impact the club too hard financially. Kudos to Levy for being big enough to make a U-Turn.
 

spursfan77

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Disagree with the U-turn.

We don’t know how long it will be before the club can start operating again.
People seem to be assuming this mess is done and dusted by the end of May. The club doesn’t know that, nobody knows that, so they have to assume the worst and plan to cut costs wherever possible in case they’re stuck with hundreds of staff and a £1bn redundant stadium. Especially when the government are offering assistance, it made sense to use it.

Secondly, some fans are celebrating that this ‘secures’ the non-playing staffs jobs. It does the opposite. They’ve just forced the club to shell out more money than they needed to,therefore increasing their losses. Losses make jobs less safe.

Thirdly, I hope the fans who demanded a u-turn, don’t send angry tweets and hashtags when the clubs spending is reduced in the transfer market as a probable consequence of the business being frozen.

Every week the players don’t take a wage deferral eats into our summer transfer budget.
 

muppetman

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Why are the club so awful at PR, there's some really good stuff in here but it's all a bit "too little, too late" for many.
 

markiespurs

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Bet this doe'snt get as much press as it should, scroll down past to see how fantastic the club are being with the use of the stadium for the NHS.

 

Bobbins

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Just been on the official site and aside from the PR mess of the furlough scheme the club are doing a lot of good things.They've basically turned part of the stadium into an antenatal clinic to relive pressure on the local hospital and avoid the need for pregnant women to attend the hospital lessening their risk.

No-one cares. Not the press, not the fans, not anyone else in football.

Basically all the good work the club does is completely pointless from a PR point of view because it gets zero recognition from anyone, opposition fans don't even believe it's actually true, and even our own fans are in the majority stupid enough to genuinely think Levy is some evil villain character and to be completely ignorant of anything positive associated with the club.
 

ERO

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Disagree with the U-turn.

We don’t know how long it will be before the club can start operating again.
People seem to be assuming this mess is done and dusted by the end of May. The club doesn’t know that, nobody knows that, so they have to assume the worst and plan to cut costs wherever possible in case they’re stuck with hundreds of staff and a £1bn redundant stadium. Especially when the government are offering assistance, it made sense to use it.

Secondly, some fans are celebrating that this ‘secures’ the non-playing staffs jobs. It does the opposite. They’ve just forced the club to shell out more money than they needed to,therefore increasing their losses. Losses make jobs less safe.

Thirdly, I hope the fans who demanded a u-turn, don’t send angry tweets and hashtags when the clubs spending is reduced in the transfer market as a probable consequence of the business being frozen.

Well put.

The intention of the government scheme was to be used exactly like THFC were doing, to protect jobs while still securing income for those left with no work to do and thus being furloughed.

How are a football club different than other companies in this aspect? Do people not think other big companies have rich owners and highly-paid staff? Who exactly are meant to use the scheme then?
 

markiespurs

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Well put.

The intention of the government scheme was to be used exactly like THFC were doing, to protect jobs while still securing income for those left with no work to do and thus being furloughed.

How are a football club different than other companies in this aspect? Do people not think other big companies have rich owners and highly-paid staff? Who exactly are meant to use the scheme then?

The problem I had with the original decision was that it hit the poorest payed staff, whille the club were still paying the highest earners, which in this case were the players.
 
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