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MDCT

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We got knocked out by City by a single goal from a set piece… it’s annoying, but that can happy any year, even if we are being perceived to be ‘prioritising the cups’.
We got knocked out by City by a single goal from a set piece where the keeper was clearly fouled leading to our keeper being branded weak leading to every little shite in the league being allowed to take a slap at him......

and breathe, rant over.

Sorry, should probably be in the "what grinds your gears" thread
 

ljinko888

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Well we haven't scored in 4 consecutive cup finals. That's one hurdle we have to get through. In 390 minutes (one of those games went to penalties) we didn't have a keeper-defender cock up like today or a player deflect a ball into his own net (Walker vs Chelsea 2015) or a dodgy handball to settle the nerves in the 1st minute. That's not me excusing the losses. Just we were not favourites for any of them and you have to score to win and we don't.

I think we messed up several Europa League campaigns with arrogance though and that must change next season.
 

Cochise

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UTD didn't try to out play City. They started off with a bit of possession but it soon became attack and counter attack. We on the other hand tried to outplay City and despite not having much success at doing so, only lost to a questionable decision (we saw it penalised in UCL last month).

I'm happy UTD won. Any trophy/competition City don't win is a victory for football at this point. They are the Evil Empire and Pep is some Jedi Master turned Sith Lord, choosing the oil money to represent everything that is wrong with the game.

I get the irony of saying that given UTD have spent more over the last 5 years than them but City, the City group and the dirty hold they have on the game are just on a different scale.
 

night-watchman

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Tim Sherwood is without doubt the Spurs manager that I hate the most in the modern era, however one thing i'll say about him is that he had the bollocks to give youth a chance. Poch started well then very quickly started shunning the youth team. The jury is still massively out on Ange re: youth. I know we haven't had many fixtures this season, but I can't help but feel the likes of Phillips, Donley and Santiago aren't really rated.

Scarlett has been the only one who Ange has phased in a touch more, but I don't think he's ever played more than 45 minutes consecutively this season.

I really hope i'm wrong but I think we'll bottle it again and sign more squad filler. The exception I think might be Mikey Moore but only bringing him through is not enough.
100%. Sherwood, for all his faults does not get nearly enough credit for being the one to bring through Kane where Poch gets the plaudits. Alex Pritchard's career might have panned out very differently had he not been on loan when Sherwood was in charge as he would have almost certainly started games under him as well. I vaguely remember Sherwood tried to recall him.
 

Bobbins

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Watching the highlights and it’s good to see how much they’ve kinda hyped-up the FA Cup Final this year, good to see it as a marquee game after the end of the season.

But I’ll tell you what, it makes me absolutely desperate to see Spurs playing in an occasion this big again. Feels like we’re completely missing out.
 

leffe186

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I’ve just come into the thread for the last couple of pages so may have missed some stuff. One of our podcasts was rating our season this week and one pundit marked us down because of our Cup performance, directly contrasting us with Man U. Only here’s the thing. Our cup draws were Fulham, Burnley, Man City. Their draws in the same rounds were Bye, Wigan, Newport County.

Luck of the draw is a thing, it just is, and luck in the Cups matters. This ropey Man U team has two Cups in the last two years. We have two in the last 25, both won when we were a bit shit. We were the best team in England for a couple of years and didn’t win anything. Newcastle were the best for a bit longer in the 90s and have won nothing since 1969. And that was the least convincing trophy of the lot - look up how they got there on Wiki one day.

Is there some fundamental flaw in the club and its approach to big games? I dunno. Ask Lucas Moura. I think Ange may end up making the difference in that respect, both in his own approach and in his recruitment of those who will carry it through. But primarily I think that if you’re a good team for a sustained period of time and if you have the money to sustain a relatively deep squad then sooner or later you’ll get there.
 

Wheeler Dealer

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100%. Sherwood, for all his faults does not get nearly enough credit for being the one to bring through Kane where Poch gets the plaudits. Alex Pritchard's career might have panned out very differently had he not been on loan when Sherwood was in charge as he would have almost certainly started games under him as well. I vaguely remember Sherwood tried to recall him.
Sherwood was involved for a number of seasons with our youth set up, which provided him with the confidence to blood some of the youth players, as he not only saw their footballing ability. but also their character. Subsequent first team coaches have not worked so closely and in the cases of Mourinho and Conte, dismissed youth in its entirety.
 

Donki

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Good on ETH, classless Lineker for not giving the man a break. The sooner he and Shearer fuck off rhe BBC the better.
 

kmk

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I’ve just come into the thread for the last couple of pages so may have missed some stuff. One of our podcasts was rating our season this week and one pundit marked us down because of our Cup performance, directly contrasting us with Man U. Only here’s the thing. Our cup draws were Fulham, Burnley, Man City. Their draws in the same rounds were Bye, Wigan, Newport County.

Luck of the draw is a thing, it just is, and luck in the Cups matters. This ropey Man U team has two Cups in the last two years. We have two in the last 25, both won when we were a bit shit. We were the best team in England for a couple of years and didn’t win anything. Newcastle were the best for a bit longer in the 90s and have won nothing since 1969. And that was the least convincing trophy of the lot - look up how they got there on Wiki one day.

Is there some fundamental flaw in the club and its approach to big games? I dunno. Ask Lucas Moura. I think Ange may end up making the difference in that respect, both in his own approach and in his recruitment of those who will carry it through. But primarily I think that if you’re a good team for a sustained period of time and if you have the money to sustain a relatively deep squad then sooner or later you’ll get there.
Also the winner from Coventry which was harshly overturned by VAR in the semi final.
 
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