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Everton open talks with Tottenham over Dele Alli as clause close to being triggered

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Everton have initiated contact with Tottenham to discuss a compromise regarding Dele Alli's move to Goodison Park, according to Sean Dyche. The midfielder left north London in a complicated free transfer agreement, with the Toffees required to fork out sizeable fees once certain conditions are met.

Source: Daily Express
 

onthetwo

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Have to say i dont really get this one…..if hes good enough to play another 7 games for them then why baulk at paying the fee? And are they really in so much financial doo-doo that £5m here or there is such a big deal?
Weird….
 

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Have to say i dont really get this one…..if hes good enough to play another 7 games for them then why baulk at paying the fee? And are they really in so much financial doo-doo that £5m here or there is such a big deal?
Weird….
Well aren't they under threat of being docked points for their finances? Another $10 mil is not insignificant if they're already multiple millions over budget, and he's not even putting the performances in for Everton anyway.
 

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Cheeky ask to be honest, he was sold to them at a cheap price as it is. Understand their money problems, but don't really see it as our problem to solve.
 

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I think that with relation to Deles problems recently, Everton are probably saying that if they are going to have to shell out if he plays another 7 games, then they probably won’t play him in the full 7.
If Dele is fully fit by the new year and knows he will only get a max of 6 games , Everton could argue that it’s not going to do his mental health much good.
Everton are up to their eyes in debt and financial charges. Cannot blame them for trying to get out of some payments.. Daniel would probably do the same.
I believe his contract is up at the end of the season.
Not sure how they get round it. Possibly say they pay a certain amount if they remain in the premier lge.
the way things are going they should do that comfortably, but a 12 pts deduction might change things.
Personally I think he is shot , might end up back at MK, or just jack it in, a La David Bentley.
 

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Have to say i dont really get this one…..if hes good enough to play another 7 games for them then why baulk at paying the fee? And are they really in so much financial doo-doo that £5m here or there is such a big deal?
Weird….

They are in the shit money wise and struggling. Unless they sell a fair few players and for decent money they will be even more in the shit!

Saving 10 million and getting dele back on the pitch will help both on and off the field.

As I said in the dele thread, it needs to benefit us, let them remove the 20 appearance fee (10 million) but take 15 million off the last payment for Richarleson.
Everton save 10 million this season and still get money for Richarleson also, and we get 15 million off in a couple of seasons to free up funds.
 
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onthetwo

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Id genuinely have him back in exchange for Richy and the (£50m net) cash….would love it if Levy and Munn tried that!
 
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If we knock off X amount, Dele gets to play again, might hit form, might hit the other contractual obligations we have with Everton. Makes more sense than having him bomb out of Everton we we'll definitely see him not hit a money obligation.
 

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Id genuinely have him back in exchange for Richy and the cash….would love it if Levy and Munn tried that!
I struggle to see why, for any other reason than sentimentality, you’d want to swap a player who does put a shift in for a player who hasn’t for many years???

we’re in a good place at the moment. Why needlessly upset that?
 

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They are in the shit money wise and struggling. Unless they sell a fair few players and for decent money they will be even more in the shit!

Saving 10 million and getting dele back on the pitch will help both on and off the field.

As I said in the dele thread, it needs to benefit us, let them remove the 20 appearance fee (10 million) but take 15 million off the last payment for Richarleson.
Everyone save 10 million this season and still get money for Richarleson also, and we get 15 million off in a couple of seasons to free up funds.
How does Everton loosing 5 million help them ?
 

Yid-ol

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How does Everton loosing 5 million help them ?

It would free up cash now so they don't lose points for being over budget, not relegate them and put them into the championship.

Us taking a 10 million hit won't happen, so if we lost our on that, it messes up our current finances also. To offset against us being impacted you would expect something in our favour there to sweeten the deal.

So in sort, everton lose 5 million, but could then help them stay in the premiership due to no point deduction, able to play dele, potentially finish higher in the league and more prize money. Probably saving them more than the 5 million they pay us?
 

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I struggle to see why, for any other reason than sentimentality, you’d want to swap a player who does put a shift in for a player who hasn’t for many years???

we’re in a good place at the moment. Why needlessly upset that?
Don’t know what the poster thought but it might be that we would have 60 million to spend wiser and give Dele for free to someone else…?
 
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onthetwo

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I struggle to see why, for any other reason than sentimentality, you’d want to swap a player who does put a shift in for a player who hasn’t for many years???

we’re in a good place at the moment. Why needlessly upset that?
i meant we'd get our $50m (net) back and swap Richy for Dele.
 

Freddie

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Cheeky ask to be honest, he was sold to them at a cheap price as it is. Understand their money problems, but don't really see it as our problem to solve.
As it is it seems like they simply won't use him and we'll get nothing
 

theShiznit

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Would have zero interest in helping them out as they got themselves into this mess. No one forced them to live beyond their means.

If on the other hand it would help Ali out...
 

Stavrogin

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Would have zero interest in helping them out as they got themselves into this mess. No one forced them to live beyond their means.

If on the other hand it would help Ali out...
Thing is, if you wanted to try to rehabilitate him and try to get him back into form, it'll cost 10m with no guarantee it'll work. So they might not risk it.

If it was extended to 15 games for example, it could give them some leeway to experiment and potentially increase the chance of triggering the clause.

A slight extension may be in everyone's interests.
 

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Love Deli, wonder how he would do under Ange.

His not coming back, but I hope we sort something out so he can play at Everton, maybe a sell on fee.
 

theShiznit

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Thing is, if you wanted to try to rehabilitate him and try to get him back into form, it'll cost 10m with no guarantee it'll work. So they might not risk it.

If it was extended to 15 games for example, it could give them some leeway to experiment and potentially increase the chance of triggering the clause.

A slight extension may be in everyone's interests.
They are not going to trigger the clause.

They cannot afford to, whether now or in a few months.

To help Ali i would prefer we just terminate the loan (if possible) and let him find a club of his choosing. (as long as it's not Everton... ;)
 

Yid-ol

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They are not going to trigger the clause.

They cannot afford to, whether now or in a few months.

To help Ali i would prefer we just terminate the loan (if possible) and let him find a club of his choosing. (as long as it's not Everton... ;)

He isn't on loan though, so not sure how we can do that? His contract with Everton is up at the end of this season I think? So he would just stay there not playing until then and leave l.
 

theShiznit

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He isn't on loan though, so not sure how we can do that? His contract with Everton is up at the end of this season I think? So he would just stay there not playing until then and leave l.
That's a fair point :D


So it isn't really our problem is it.

If Everton would rather keep Dele in limbo that play him and blame us for our extortionate £5m clause then maybe they should release him., or generate funds to actually stay within FFP.

You never know, it may only take Ali 6 games to save them from relegation ;)
 
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