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Eric Dier: who is the Englishman at Sporting Lisbon set to join Spurs?

hutchiniho

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I hope Poch gives him an early opportunity to play in the starting XI. With the best case idea being for Dier to cement himself in the side for a 'Terry equivalent' career at the Lane.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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You lot make me crack up.
Don't you understand what goes on at almost every top half premier league club?
Players are stock. Clubs are traders.
We've bought this kid as his stock was low.
There's probably only a small chance he'll ever play a part for spurs first team in the league.
 

bloodzeed

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Done some digging on sporting forum


I've followed Dier's career since he was a kid. I've seen him play in the youth squads, I've seen every game in the B squad that he's played, and he's not overrated at all. He's our most promising defender and one of the most promising defenders in all of Europe. Being a former CB myself, I can tell you that he can secure everything that's needed for his position. Plus, he's got the ability to move up the field like no other CB (apart from, occasionally, Rojo), and that's an important feature on a modern CB. Still hoping he can renew his contract and pick up the spot, he'd make a great duo with Rojo.

To complete the statement: he's got an above average composure. He always tries to play the ball with quality rather than shoot it up front, and he succeeds even under pressure. Solid defensive skills with large room for improvement. I honestly think he's got what it takes to become a reference in any english club in the near future. Really hope we don't sell him yet, but take good care of him if we do!
 

ginola007

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Done some digging on sporting forum


I've followed Dier's career since he was a kid. I've seen him play in the youth squads, I've seen every game in the B squad that he's played, and he's not overrated at all. He's our most promising defender and one of the most promising defenders in all of Europe. Being a former CB myself, I can tell you that he can secure everything that's needed for his position. Plus, he's got the ability to move up the field like no other CB (apart from, occasionally, Rojo), and that's an important feature on a modern CB. Still hoping he can renew his contract and pick up the spot, he'd make a great duo with Rojo.

To complete the statement: he's got an above average composure. He always tries to play the ball with quality rather than shoot it up front, and he succeeds even under pressure. Solid defensive skills with large room for improvement. I honestly think he's got what it takes to become a reference in any english club in the near future. Really hope we don't sell him yet, but take good care of him if we do!
Sounds awful lot like what was written about Caulker a few years ago. So even if he were not to become a regular, we should stand to make a 100% profit when we sell.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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Comes from a team that demands that their backs play the ball out, press and play the high line. A true talent for the future.
 

yusrisafri

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You lot make me crack up.
Don't you understand what goes on at almost every top half premier league club?
Players are stock. Clubs are traders.
We've bought this kid as his stock was low.
There's probably only a small chance he'll ever play a part for spurs first team in the league.

Sadly I think this is true. Its all business nowadays
 

Shirtfront

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You lot make me crack up.
Don't you understand what goes on at almost every top half premier league club?
Players are stock. Clubs are traders.
We've bought this kid as his stock was low.
There's probably only a small chance he'll ever play a part for spurs first team in the league.

Well if that's true then clubs are terrible traders, given the top 4 are either loss making or riddled with debt. Very few (if any) in the Premier League actually trade players at a profit. The profit comes almost exclusively from everything but the players - TV; sponsorship; gate receipts. So it's a terrible plan if it is one.

It would be even worse if the plan was to spend £4m on a kid and then not play him in the first team. How would we put him in the shop window?

Players are not stock; they are gambling chips to be used to try and win the "Champions League Jackpot"; "Stay in the Premier League Jackpot"; or "Get Promoted Jackpot".

Buying them with a view to improving them and selling them on would make much more sense (at least from a business proposition). But most Premier League Clubs buy them in the hope that if enough come up trumps they win the Jackpot.
 

chinaman

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Bale, Caulker, Livermore and Hudd were all sold at a profit. If Poch decides that Holtby is not what he needs, he can be sold at 7-8 times his cost.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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Well if that's true then clubs are terrible traders, given the top 4 are either loss making or riddled with debt. Very few (if any) in the Premier League actually trade players at a profit. The profit comes almost exclusively from everything but the players - TV; sponsorship; gate receipts. So it's a terrible plan if it is one.

It would be even worse if the plan was to spend £4m on a kid and then not play him in the first team. How would we put him in the shop window?

Players are not stock; they are gambling chips to be used to try and win the "Champions League Jackpot"; "Stay in the Premier League Jackpot"; or "Get Promoted Jackpot".

Buying them with a view to improving them and selling them on would make much more sense (at least from a business proposition). But most Premier League Clubs buy them in the hope that if enough come up trumps they win the Jackpot.
What about Barkley, Sturridge, Etc?
They stock puke like everyone.
Even Lukaku, did he ever even play fit Chelsea?
 

Shirtfront

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What about Barkley, Sturridge, Etc?
They stock puke like everyone.
Even Lukaku, did he ever even play fit Chelsea?

I'm not saying every player is sold at a loss.

And I agree that some of the big clubs do seem to just be buying up everyone they can in the hopes that if they buy enough expensive players, then surely some must turn out to be the superstars their price tag would suggest.

But I think that is more to do with winning the Jackpot, than trading - buying low and selling high. Most of these guys were not "bought low"; they were pretty expensive punts that turned out not to be the ready made (or at least short term) answer the club hoped.

Look at the respective clubs: they all trade at a loss.
 
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